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TheLilSquaw -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 6:26:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: garyFLR


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

gary,

3 paragraphs?
That seems long to me for an introduction email.

I admit I wouldn't read that.


That's probably why I haven't been very successful.
Thanks for your input. I suppose, if you get loads of messages a day, if the first line doesn't grab you, it gets binned, I see your point of view.


When you introduce yourself for the 1st time to someone in r/t do you go into your entire life story? I hope not.





inchargeinca -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/1/2013 11:23:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AthenaSurrenders


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

My profile is so detailed that IF I decide to send a lady a message, it will be nothing more than:

"I really liked your profile and I think we have quite a few things in common. Please take a look at my profile and see if you agree?"



Peace and comfort,



Michael



See now just to be awkward, I wouldn't respond to this. Firstly, because it's generic enough that it could be a copy-paste (I've had a couple of emails like this in the past week, very similar wording, and they obviously haven't read my profile since it says not looking). Secondly because it puts the burden on me to start the conversation. It sort of says 'I'd like to talk to you' but doesn't lead into anything or suggest a topic. For me personally it needs a hook - even something as simple as 'I see you're on board a yatch in your profile picture. Do you do much sailing? I got to try it for the first time on holiday in France last year and really enjoyed it'. Now a topic has been offered rather than putting the onus on me to think of one.



I agree with you. A better approach is:

I really liked your profile and I think we have quite a few things in common -- such as XXXXXX. Please take a look at my profile and see if you agree? AND THEN ADD A QUESTION ABOUT HER PROFILE.

Two small specific points about her profile changes the initial greeting from a generic cut and paste to something personal.






garyFLR -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/2/2013 2:58:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw


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ORIGINAL: garyFLR


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw

gary,

3 paragraphs?
That seems long to me for an introduction email.

I admit I wouldn't read that.


That's probably why I haven't been very successful.
Thanks for your input. I suppose, if you get loads of messages a day, if the first line doesn't grab you, it gets binned, I see your point of view.


When you introduce yourself for the 1st time to someone in r/t do you go into your entire life story? I hope not.



Depends how drunk I am [:D].

But, surely this is a different medium? In real time you have aids such as body language, & hopefully an attractive physical presence, here, what do we have? smileys [:)]
Besides, It must be refreshing for a lady to receive a well thought out courteous message, whatever the length, as opposed to 99% of the other stuff.




JeffBC -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/2/2013 3:17:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Aedonix
My question is this. by use of a word count estimate, what is the ideal length of tha first message? (Let's leave content out of this, that is a whole other topic all on it's own right there!)

For me the entire question is one of "playing the chicks". How exactly do you take content out of communication and get left with anything of interest? If we did a complete statistical analysis of "the dating game" would all the numbers help you?




JeffBC -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/2/2013 3:30:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw
When you introduce yourself for the 1st time to someone in r/t do you go into your entire life story? I hope not.

Sometimes yes. Sometimes no. It depends on what the purpose of the introduction was. For Carol, that purpose was to play hookie from being the guest of honor at a [cursed] work party so yeah... we talked at length about our "entire life stories" since that was a great way to hide on the back deck rather than go be the social butterfly I was supposed to be.




LadyPact -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/2/2013 10:51:06 PM)

Fast reply.

OP, I'm on the other side of the slash, but this is pretty generic because you're contacting women. It's not much different whether it's D or s.

You only need 3-5 sentences for an introductory email. Make one of them a question of substance. That means not generic crap like "how are you?" Make it a question she actually *wants* to answer based on her profile, journal, or forum posts. It should be something *she* is interested in to get her attention.

I know other people have already told you that. I'm on the thread to tell you not to send that silly propositional email that you have in your journal and asked people what they thought of it. Skip that idea entirely. It makes you look like a fantasy bullshitter.




graceadieu -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/3/2013 10:41:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady


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ORIGINAL: graceadieu

I'm not sure off the top of my head how much text 500 words is - it's been a while since I wrote an essay, haha. I feel like that's maybe a full page double-spaced in Word? If so, that's much too long.

I agree with the advice of 3-7 sentences. One sentence, e.g. "Hi, you're cute!" isn't enough (I got a lot like that when I was more active on the "other side") and will get ignored. It should be long enough to make it personalized and interesting. But more than a couple paragraphs is just too much for an introduction. You wouldn't give a huge speech the first time you met someone in real life, right?


Again, haven't finished whole thread yet, so if someone answered, my apologies.

500 words is almost one page in Word at 12pt Ariel, SINGLE SPACED. With an extra return between paragraphs. Oh, and that is with margins set at .75 all around.



Wow, that's definitely much too long, then. Even my mom doesn't send me e-mails that long - why would I read some stranger's huge message?




garyFLR -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/4/2013 12:48:28 AM)

All I can say, is that if a lady sent me a three paragraph introduction, I would certainly take the trouble to read it.




NobleDarkMaster -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/17/2013 8:21:49 PM)

To answer the original question. Take the recommended sentence length and multiply by the average amount of words in a sentence. To find that use the sentences in these posts.

Originality is all you need really. I liked the topic.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/18/2013 3:26:31 AM)

You actually do math calculations to determine how long your first email should be?




NobleDarkMaster -> RE: Introductory messages. how long? (6/18/2013 4:07:09 PM)

Me? Not a chance. I was just giving a formula based on the replies here since he was fixed on word amounts




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