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Yachtie -> Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 8:18:04 AM)

I've heard more from Bush, asking for my advice, than I’ve heard from Obama,” my sources quoted Clinton as saying. “I have no relationship with the president — none whatsoever. Obama doesn’t know how to be president. He doesn’t know how the world works. He’s incompetent. He’s an amateur!”

Hammer meets nail. [:D]



Bill Clinton’s animosity toward Obama is legendary. A year before the last election, he was urging Hillary to challenge the sitting president for the nomination — a move she rejected.

I'm no fan of Hillary, but Obama is a joke.



He may yet try to back out of his promise to Hillary Clinton. But as Obama’s presidency sinks deeper into scandal and inaction, the question is — will Clinton even still want his endorsement?

I'd suggest Hillary stay as far away from Obama as is possible.






cloudboy -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 8:21:42 AM)


That quote is not recent. I think it's a least a year old if not older. See if you can pin down when he said it and what the context was.




Yachtie -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 8:24:51 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


That quote is not recent. I think it's a least a year old if not older. See if you can pin down when he said it and what the context was.



The article is dated today.




DomKen -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 8:39:50 AM)

It's sort of funny you believe the Post




Lucylastic -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 8:52:42 AM)

LMAO another legendary post from the OP
snorts




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 9:41:12 AM)

The source....

Adapted from the new paperback edition of Edward Klein’s “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House” (Regnery Publishing), out this week.

Published: May 15, 2012

~chuckles

You really should check your links




TheHeretic -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 9:43:35 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


That quote is not recent.



Nope. It came out in an unflattering book about the current administration, a while back. The tension between the Clintonite and Obamabot wings of the Democrats is an ongoing thing though. If the President winds up chucking Hillary under the bus in the Benghazi thing, it's going to break wide open.

There is an interesting parallel. It was rumored that Bush and McCain came to a similiar understanding back in 2000, which Bush did honor, but by the end of his terms, the well had been poisoned for a Republican victory. That could happen again in '16




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 9:47:54 AM)

Gotta love this....

Klein has been criticized for his biography of Hillary Clinton, titled, The Truth About Hillary: What She Knew, When She Knew It, and How Far She'll Go to Become President, which was released on June 21, 2005. Politico criticized the book for "serious factual errors, truncated and distorted quotes and overall themes [that] don't gibe with any other serious accounts of Clinton's life."[2] The book was attacked not only by liberals, but by conservatives as well. John Podhoretz wrote in the New York Post, "Thirty pages into it, I wanted to take a shower. Sixty pages into it, I wanted to be decontaminated. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word."[3] In National Review James Geraghty wrote, “Folks, there are plenty of arguments against Hillary Clinton, her policies, her views, her proposals, and her philosophies. This stuff ain’t it. Nobody on the right, left, or center ought to stoop to this level.”[4]





Moonhead -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 9:57:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
There is an interesting parallel. It was rumored that Bush and McCain came to a similiar understanding back in 2000, which Bush did honor, but by the end of his terms, the well had been poisoned for a Republican victory. That could happen again in '16

Is that why the GOP couldn't be arsed finding a halfway credible candidate for the presidency last year, then?
"Yeah, fuck 2012, boys! Another four years of this Kenyan Marxist and they'd rather vote for Ronald Reagan's corpse and Jeff Dunham as his veep than anybody the Dims can dig out!"




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 10:25:10 AM)

Omg! Peanut for Prez! How cool would that be!




Moonhead -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 10:27:46 AM)

Well, they were cool with electing a puppet chimpanzee who spent most of the televised debates sitting on his vp's lap, weren't they? There's hope yet, tazzy! Dream that dream!




tazzygirl -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 10:29:06 AM)

Shhhh... thats not my dream... thats my "Im gonna be naughty" bed time fantasy [;)]




TheHeretic -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 1:52:14 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Is that why the GOP couldn't be arsed finding a halfway credible candidate for the presidency last year, then?
"Yeah, fuck 2012, boys! Another four years of this Kenyan Marxist and they'd rather vote for Ronald Reagan's corpse and Jeff Dunham as his veep than anybody the Dims can dig out!"



Maybe a little of that, Moon, but I think there is also a pretty good backroom understanding of just who Obama really is, and the sort of dirty politics he plays behind the scenes, leading a couple of good potential candidates to decide they simply weren't willing to put their lives and families through that meatgrinder.

As the current scandals progress though, and move from being seen as three matters, into a single overall abuse of power investigation, the damage to the Democrat brand could be far beyond what anyone imagined Obama would be capable of on incompetence alone.




JeffBC -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 2:27:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
As the current scandals progress though, and move from being seen as three matters, into a single overall abuse of power investigation, the damage to the Democrat brand could be far beyond what anyone imagined Obama would be capable of on incompetence alone.

For me, the damage to the democratic brand could only have been achieved with this active, willful and stated support of shit that I wildly disagree with. I'd be ever so much happier if I thought he was simply stupid. Although honestly, at this point in American history the idea that a political brand can be "damaged" is hugely funny. What was that last congressional approval rating again?




Moonhead -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 2:52:13 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Is that why the GOP couldn't be arsed finding a halfway credible candidate for the presidency last year, then?
"Yeah, fuck 2012, boys! Another four years of this Kenyan Marxist and they'd rather vote for Ronald Reagan's corpse and Jeff Dunham as his veep than anybody the Dims can dig out!"



Maybe a little of that, Moon, but I think there is also a pretty good backroom understanding of just who Obama really is, and the sort of dirty politics he plays behind the scenes, leading a couple of good potential candidates to decide they simply weren't willing to put their lives and families through that meatgrinder.

As the current scandals progress though, and move from being seen as three matters, into a single overall abuse of power investigation, the damage to the Democrat brand could be far beyond what anyone imagined Obama would be capable of on incompetence alone.


Which couple of good potential candidates was this? I must have missed them among the fuickwits and embarrassments.




Politesub53 -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 5:25:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy


That quote is not recent. I think it's a least a year old if not older. See if you can pin down when he said it and what the context was.


Yachtie will believe the slightest thing he reads that puts Obama in a negative light, no matter how dubious the source.

http://gothamist.com/2013/06/02/obama-hating_writer_says_obama_stru.php




DomKen -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 6:06:16 PM)

What I find funny about this is the cons think Clinton really gave that amazing convention speech for a man he supposedly hates. Clinton is a lot of things but I just can't see him going all out for someone he hates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5knEXDsrL4




LafayetteLady -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 6:32:15 PM)

Whatever people want to say about Clinton, you can't deny the man is a powerful speaker.




Owner59 -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 7:51:20 PM)

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At least the President hasn`t lied us into the worst foreign policy disaster since Viet Nam....




joether -> RE: Obama, an amateur? (6/2/2013 11:52:37 PM)

I find it amusing that the quote I tried to research: "I've heard more from Bush, asking for my advice, than I’ve heard from Obama..." is easily found on every right-wing site from FOX News to Prison Planet. Yet, on any news media outlet around the world that still tries to maintain good journalistic qualities, its no where to be seen. Now why do you suppose that is?





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