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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/5/2013 2:57:50 PM   
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What specifically are you going to use the laptop for? You say surfing and gaming, but is that just reading forums and playing flash games, or are you wanting to stream movies and play League of Legends or Call of Duty on it?



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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/5/2013 3:48:48 PM   
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Neopets and flash games/ daddy plays wow and COD, and a bunch others, and on the net I surf collarme nd get life and Google all kinds of stuff, watch porn on the free porn sites occasionally. Stream movies from Netflix and andhulu and from abc.com type sites. Listen to music on YouTube, rhaspody, play dvds, get stuff from Amazon or iTunes,



Well, the processor of the laptop is the backbone of your computer. The big drawback of a laptop over a desktop is that for the price, you get more power for your money in a desktop. Take your initial laptop choice, it has an Intel corei5-3337U processor, this bad boy is only a 1.80 GHZ. To put this into perspective, most gaming rigs have quad core (4 processors working in unison) 3.70 GHz, though they did just come out with a new 3.90... Now this is the main reason laptops can get on the cheap, slower processors. Because most people just use them to do taxes, surf the net, play crosswords, etc. And a slow 1.80GHz is just fine for that. If you want to get into streaming movies, the 8 Gig of ram might help, but you will notice (i.e. streaming anything off the net taxes the processor, slow processor equals streaming problems). Also, the more you tax that 1.80, the harder it works, and the more power it uses. Now the bad news. If you want to play games on a laptop, you have to put money into it. It is unavoidable. You need a fast processor, at least 12 Gig of ram, and a decent graphics card, to play any of today's games. And any game you play will tax the battery. To solve the battery problem, just get more than one, and keep one charging while you swap the dead one out. My suggestion, buy a cheap laptop to do regular computer stuff, and save up for the gaming rig, as a passable one will cost ya about 1000, a decent one 2000 and up (and those are for desktops, laptop gaming is even more expensive)

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/5/2013 4:09:55 PM   
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And this time can you all please stick to the question at hand instead of derailing everything with comments like why not focus on moving out first, then get one. Or should that really be a concern right now?

We want it to be usable with a usb mouse, not just touch only, no smaller than 15, but 17 is ideal.
I saw a Dell at Wal-Mart, the specs said Windows 8, waves maxx audio burn movies, photos, music to CD and DVD

Intel corei5-3337U processor, 8 gigmemory 1tb hard drive stored 250,000 plus songs, or 800 plus movies.

Our primary use is going to be gaming and internet surfing, and I'm likely to.clutter it up with music and files.

Before taxes and fees and protection plans this one is on sale for 550, and we are not really looking for higher than 698, that includes warranty, sales tax, and and any other associated fees.




Was there a question?

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/5/2013 4:14:27 PM   
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And this time can you all please stick to the question at hand instead of derailing everything with comments like why not focus on moving out first, then get one. Or should that really be a concern right now?

We want it to be usable with a usb mouse, not just touch only, no smaller than 15, but 17 is ideal.
I saw a Dell at Wal-Mart, the specs said Windows 8, waves maxx audio burn movies, photos, music to CD and DVD

Intel corei5-3337U processor, 8 gigmemory 1tb hard drive stored 250,000 plus songs, or 800 plus movies.

Our primary use is going to be gaming and internet surfing, and I'm likely to.clutter it up with music and files.

Before taxes and fees and protection plans this one is on sale for 550, and we are not really looking for higher than 698, that includes warranty, sales tax, and and any other associated fees.




Was there a question?


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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/5/2013 5:02:56 PM   
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Yeah, recomendations about good ones, or is this one good? Etc.
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And this time can you all please stick to the question at hand instead of derailing everything with comments like why not focus on moving out first, then get one. Or should that really be a concern right now?

We want it to be usable with a usb mouse, not just touch only, no smaller than 15, but 17 is ideal.
I saw a Dell at Wal-Mart, the specs said Windows 8, waves maxx audio burn movies, photos, music to CD and DVD

Intel corei5-3337U processor, 8 gigmemory 1tb hard drive stored 250,000 plus songs, or 800 plus movies.

Our primary use is going to be gaming and internet surfing, and I'm likely to.clutter it up with music and files.

Before taxes and fees and protection plans this one is on sale for 550, and we are not really looking for higher than 698, that includes warranty, sales tax, and and any other associated fees.




Was there a question?




Oh....ok....Dell has some good computers, HP has some good computers, Best Buy has some good computers, the local computer guy has some good computers.

There are a few others.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/6/2013 8:53:14 AM   
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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/7/2013 3:13:35 PM   
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Oh, and I will be using the laptop to upload home videos we made on the digital camcorder and and pics from the digital camera my future MIL gave me, hopefully I'll have a nice simple photo editing program.


See previous.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/7/2013 4:02:33 PM   
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As it happens, I'm looking for a laptop too, so I appreciate folks' advice. I'd use mine mainly for work (editorial) and surfing.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/7/2013 4:49:20 PM   
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Every person I've met that has started with an external drive as a way to just off-load those extra files has invariably ended up with the thing being a permanent fixture.


That's why you make it go over the home network, instead of plugging it in to your machine when you want to access it.

It takes no extra power from your battery at all, because it's never plugged into your laptop.

We've got about 6-7T in external hard drives hooked up in a daisy chain to the home server. From there every one of the computers and tvs in the house can access the information to play all movies and video anywhere we want. The only time it's an issue is when we're away from home, because downloading stuff over the internet from the home server takes some time. But you don't lug all that stuff around every time you leave home anyways, well not until they come up with a way to fairly cheaply stick at least 5T in a standard laptop anyways.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/7/2013 4:57:27 PM   
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Get used to the idea that you will not find a laptop that has a sensible use time of 4-5 hours unplugged let alone one that will still have half its usable life left in it.
I say 'sensible use' because I'm not talking about 'standby' but actually using it to play games etc.


My New MacBook pro does about 6-7 hours of chatting and internet surfing.
Playing games of watching movies, cut that in half though.

That's to empty, not to half-full.

And, that's a $3000 machine.

freedomdwarf is right, you're are not going to find what you're looking for. Let alone find something close to it in that price range.


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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/7/2013 7:04:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Battery life is a function of two things, the capacity of the battery and the load put on it by the device. On a laptop, some of the biggest drains are the screens (backlit LCD), the hard drive and the graphics processor. The load varies, surfing the net, reading e-mail and IM'ing won't draw that much, but if you are playing games or movies, it will drain faster. My Macbook air, that has an SSD drive (solid state disk drive) should last a lot longer in theory, but simply surfing the net it can drain down in a couple of hours, maybe up to 3 or so. My work dell will last a couple of hours in general. There are high capacity batteries but they have their own problems, they are expensive and also heat up a lot.

One way to see is to check out cnet.com or consumer reports, they run tests on battery life and if that is a key factor then that is the place to look. I tend to agree with others, though, for what you are looking for, a relatively large screen, ability to play games, large HD, the battery life is going to suffer, and your goal of 4-5 hours is probably not going to be doable, especially not in your price range. At one time some laptops had the capability to have a spare battery in the machine, but not sure if anyone does that, it adds to the weight, and also the heat, and I suspect stopped because they had problems.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 6:30:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		you only actually need one network drive, not daisy-chained externals. You can get a 4 terabyte network drive now that hooks into your router, and can be accessed by any computer on your network, even remotely via the internet. Makes storage simple and easy, especially for laptops

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 9:30:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		4T drives are expensive. Why get ride of perfectly good drives, when I already have drives that work, to replace them with an expensive option?

Especially considering how high harddrive failure is, I don't see much point in that. Plus, I have backups in triplicate on different drives, so to replace what we have with 4T drives I'd need 3 of them, that's $400-$500, when what I've got is perfectly sufficient.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 11:01:56 AM   
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4T drives are expensive. Why get ride of perfectly good drives, when I already have drives that work, to replace them with an expensive option?

Especially considering how high harddrive failure is, I don't see much point in that. Plus, I have backups in triplicate on different drives, so to replace what we have with 4T drives I'd need 3 of them, that's $400-$500, when what I've got is perfectly sufficient.


eh, expensive? I have seen 4TB network drives at around $250, and that was flash storage so no mechanical parts to fail. Physical hard drives are a bit more expensive, but thats because most of the units you can set up in RAID config for redundancy. As for hard drive failure? I have had 2 1TB Western Digital drives set up in a server, constantly "on" for over 2 years now, and haven't had a single issue with em, so haven't really seen the problem

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 3:04:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I still want to know why battery life is so important to you. You don't spend hours and hours outside your home where you are going to be using the laptop anyway, so it can just be plugged in. I have a laptop, and the battery life is low, but at home, it is always plugged in, so I don't fret over it.

You can get an external hard drive with pretty decent storage (although not terabyte worth) for less than $100.

Instead of trying to figure out how to get the "latest and greatest" at a good price, why not figure out how to meet your needs without doing that?

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 4:50:09 PM   
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I still want to know why battery life is so important to you. You don't spend hours and hours outside your home where you are going to be using the laptop anyway, so it can just be plugged in. I have a laptop, and the battery life is low, but at home, it is always plugged in, so I don't fret over it.

You can get an external hard drive with pretty decent storage (although not terabyte worth) for less than $100.

Instead of trying to figure out how to get the "latest and greatest" at a good price, why not figure out how to meet your needs without doing that?

Tiger and others have had 1tb external USB drives for under 100 bucks, the prices have plummeted.

I was looking at Tiger today, and they had a sony VAIO laptop that claimed 6 hours of battery life, but that is rubbish more than likely, that might be with it in standby mode or just sitting there. In general usage, 2-3 hours is the most I have seen. BTW, external USB drives can run off the USB ports own power, but that increases the draw on the battery...

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 5:00:50 PM   
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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 7:47:15 PM   
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I still want to know why battery life is so important to you. You don't spend hours and hours outside your home where you are going to be using the laptop anyway, so it can just be plugged in. I have a laptop, and the battery life is low, but at home, it is always plugged in, so I don't fret over it.

You can get an external hard drive with pretty decent storage (although not terabyte worth) for less than $100.

Instead of trying to figure out how to get the "latest and greatest" at a good price, why not figure out how to meet your needs without doing that?

Tiger and others have had 1tb external USB drives for under 100 bucks, the prices have plummeted.

I was looking at Tiger today, and they had a sony VAIO laptop that claimed 6 hours of battery life, but that is rubbish more than likely, that might be with it in standby mode or just sitting there. In general usage, 2-3 hours is the most I have seen. BTW, external USB drives can run off the USB ports own power, but that increases the draw on the battery...


Ok, who or what is Tiger?

I'm not worried about the draw on the battery, as I've said, mine is plugged in all the time.

Lookie,

My point is that even if the external hard drive isn't going to run something as fast, you could transfer the game/movie/whatever to your hard drive to use it and then put it back on the external when you are done. Although, as I remember it (which doesn't mean much), when you are using something it is loaded into your RAM, so it should work fine.

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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 8:47:54 PM   
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Ok, who or what is Tiger?

I'm not worried about the draw on the battery, as I've said, mine is plugged in all the time.

Lookie,

My point is that even if the external hard drive isn't going to run something as fast, you could transfer the game/movie/whatever to your hard drive to use it and then put it back on the external when you are done. Although, as I remember it (which doesn't mean much), when you are using something it is loaded into your RAM, so it should work fine.




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RE: laptop recomendations for long battery life 1tbhard... - 6/8/2013 9:55:48 PM   
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I still want to know why battery life is so important to you. You don't spend hours and hours outside your home where you are going to be using the laptop anyway, so it can just be plugged in. I have a laptop, and the battery life is low, but at home, it is always plugged in, so I don't fret over it.

You can get an external hard drive with pretty decent storage (although not terabyte worth) for less than $100.

Instead of trying to figure out how to get the "latest and greatest" at a good price, why not figure out how to meet your needs without doing that?

Tiger and others have had 1tb external USB drives for under 100 bucks, the prices have plummeted.

I was looking at Tiger today, and they had a sony VAIO laptop that claimed 6 hours of battery life, but that is rubbish more than likely, that might be with it in standby mode or just sitting there. In general usage, 2-3 hours is the most I have seen. BTW, external USB drives can run off the USB ports own power, but that increases the draw on the battery...


Ok, who or what is Tiger?

I'm not worried about the draw on the battery, as I've said, mine is plugged in all the time.

Lookie,

My point is that even if the external hard drive isn't going to run something as fast, you could transfer the game/movie/whatever to your hard drive to use it and then put it back on the external when you are done. Although, as I remember it (which doesn't mean much), when you are using something it is loaded into your RAM, so it should work fine.


If the application loads into memory, it will run fast, but if it swaps to the external HD it will be slower....though one thing to keep in mind, laptops and pc's are coming these days with USB 3.0, and that interface is way faster than 2.0 (the old standard),so an external HD with 3.0 may be almost as fast as an internal drive.

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