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Second Life - Real Life - 6/6/2013 3:30:37 AM   
BebeMekanic


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Status: offline 		Sometimes the people I speak here keep on questioning me about what or why Second Life, a virtual place where I started to know about BDSM and that I still like to use to experiment and have fun.
I think that everyone can find a way to receive pleasure even cybering or meeting in real life. There are so many reasons why someone chose one way or another, all respectable as long as you find an agreement with the person who you would like to engage.
I joined to collarme because I am stimulated by meeting many different people online that I find difficoult to find where I live.
Of course I am also curious to try things out on myself, on my body, but I keep the two things separated as if the online world mean another life for me.
But the real thing that really gets pushed is my mind, this is the place where I connect, this is the realm of my pain and pleasure.
this is my first post I apologize if it is off topic.
Anyway just few words about my recent thoughts.
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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/6/2013 10:11:27 AM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		First, you are posting this in the wrong section. Please refer to the following link...

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=15672

Second, most sections here are about real time BDSM, not virtual.

I suspect your post will be moved in due course. Dont be surprised when that happens.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/6/2013 10:18:22 PM   
deliriuminabox


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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/8/2013 1:27:51 PM   
GotSteel


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Status: offline 		I doubt that anybody has an issue with second life in and of itself, I mean I don't see why it would be more poorly received than porn or trashy romance novels. The issue I've seen where second life gets trash talked is when people take it seriously and act like what they've learned in the video game is remotely applicable in real life. People who try to apply their porn education or 50 shades of grey to this life style get about the same response.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/8/2013 5:33:18 PM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BebeMekanic
this is my first post I apologize if it is off topic.

In general, introductions should go in the intro forum but, you know, it's the nature of new people to make mistakes and it's not a problem. The mods will move it if appropriate.

Sometimes the people I speak here keep on questioning me about what or why Second Life, a virtual place where I started to know about BDSM and that I still like to use to experiment and have fun.
I no longer fool around with BDSM there but it was where I got introduced and I still go back once every few months just to see how things have changed (some recent changes fascinate the heck out of me by the way). By the way, sometimes people here question everyone else's relationship. Hell, I'm married and I get questioned about this or that too. When people don't understand things they are likely to ... well ... not understand them. Some people react with a sense of rightness and others actually ask questions to learn and grow. Such is human nature. It is certainly true though that what I observe of BDSM in the real world bears little resemblance to BDSM on CM. Further, BDSM on Collarme bears little resemblance to BDSM on SecondLife.

I think that everyone can find a way to receive pleasure even cybering or meeting in real life. There are so many reasons why someone chose one way or another, all respectable as long as you find an agreement with the person who you would like to engage.
Sure, this is true. It just gets confusing sometimes because really it isn't the same thing at all but people use the same words. It became fashionable at some point to refer to your SL Partner as your "husband" or "wife". Fine, but clearly those words don't mean what they mean in the real world -- or even anything remotely close. It's the same thing here. You can be a "master" or a "slave" in SL and that's all fine and can be very rewarding. But it doesn't even remotely mean the same thing as it does here and even less what it means in the real world.

I joined to collarme because I am stimulated by meeting many different people online that I find difficoult to find where I live.
Aforementioned divides aside, welcome!

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/8/2013 5:35:56 PM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: GotSteel
The issue I've seen where second life gets trash talked is when people take it seriously and act like what they've learned in the video game is remotely applicable in real life.

Not that I don't get what you're saying so consider this half a tangent but...

Kids who play modern racing games race on those same tracks and cars in real life measurably better... a lot better actually.
Airplane simulators have been used as very serious training tools for some time now also.
NASA seems to think it might be useful for the space shuttle.

... just saying :)


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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/8/2013 7:42:08 PM   
LafayetteLady


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

quote:

ORIGINAL: GotSteel
The issue I've seen where second life gets trash talked is when people take it seriously and act like what they've learned in the video game is remotely applicable in real life.

Not that I don't get what you're saying so consider this half a tangent but...

Kids who play modern racing games race on those same tracks and cars in real life measurably better... a lot better actually.


That would be because they didn't have the fear of crashing on the video game. And I'm not sure what tracks you are talking about, but they sure as hell aren't going to do as well on a NASCAR track in real life as they do in a video game. 150 miles an hour in a video game is mighty different than in real life.

quote:

Airplane simulators have been used as very serious training tools for some time now also.
NASA seems to think it might be useful for the space shuttle.

... just saying :)



BDSM involves interaction between two people, not man vs. machine. So yea, it's a huge difference.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 2:53:20 AM   
ARIES83


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Status: offline 		My opinion of secondlife is similar to my opinion of alcohol...

It can be enjoyed and can be fun, but for some it can be a waste, a problem, even an addiction.
My opinion: bottom line.

No problem with secondlife, but if there was a long enough blackout... I think there'd be a lot of people realising they haven't got any life, let alone a second one... Same as warcraft.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 9:51:54 AM   
GotSteel


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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

quote:

ORIGINAL: GotSteel
The issue I've seen where second life gets trash talked is when people take it seriously and act like what they've learned in the video game is remotely applicable in real life.

Not that I don't get what you're saying so consider this half a tangent but...

Kids who play modern racing games race on those same tracks and cars in real life measurably better... a lot better actually.
Airplane simulators have been used as very serious training tools for some time now also.
NASA seems to think it might be useful for the space shuttle.

... just saying :)



I call bad analogy, at least until teleportation collars are invented kinksters aren't "racing on those same tracks".

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 10:02:05 AM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		I do not believe you can be experienced in certain things just because you pretend to do them in cyber sex, or online role play.

Somethings require real life face to face, and sometimes educational classes.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 11:10:06 AM   
LaceeTracee


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I do not believe you can be experienced in certain things just because you pretend to do them in cyber sex, or online role play.

Somethings require real life face to face, and sometimes educational classes.




I agree and that doesn't mean SL and internet relationships are not great for some people but to try to say its the same is wrong. that would be like sayin driving a simulator is the same as driving a car or playing a video game is the same as being in combat.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 12:21:21 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		I went there once or twice. As some here know, I am not good (or maybe just patient enough) navigating those sites. So I quickly got bored. But I know someone who "works" as a DJ on SL and actually makes real money doing it. I find that very odd, but also interesting. I mean theoretically someone could be a pro domme on SL only and make real money it would seem. That would be one good reason for someone to want to use the site.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 12:32:04 PM   
JeffBC


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
I went there once or twice. As some here know, I am not good (or maybe just patient enough) navigating those sites. So I quickly got bored. But I know someone who "works" as a DJ on SL and actually makes real money doing it. I find that very odd, but also interesting. I mean theoretically someone could be a pro domme on SL only and make real money it would seem. That would be one good reason for someone to want to use the site.


WARNING: total tangent by currency geek alert

There is no such thing as "real money". Effectively money is anything which people assign value to. It becomes portable when an exchange is setup so that currency A can be converted to currency B. Since that's been done in SL (you can convert to pretty much any currency including bitcoin I think) that puts Lindens (the monetary unit of SL) on par with any other "real world currency".

If someone wants to pay me in lindens I'm more than happy to accept them at a rate of 260:1 plus applicable conversion fees. They turn into dollars readily enough. What IS true is that it's like trying to live in the US while holding a job in some impoverished nation. Due to the currency differentials making an adequate standard of living for HERE is hard to do there.

The exchange rate has held firm at about 250:1 for a long time. Today, roughly 37 million in lindens has changed hands so far (today only). That equates to $152,116 USD so far today. By the end of today the total daily economic activity should be somewhere just short of half a million USD.

Lindens, however, are still a fiat currency so suffer from all the faults thereof. Bitcoin is the way more interesting "unreal" currency nowadays. That sort of goes back to a gold standard but way better. You mine it and it is difficult to mine and the difficulty is known and predictable. In short, anyone can "mine up some bitcoins" on their computer if they want and are able just like digging for gold but mathematically fair.


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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/9/2013 3:12:36 PM   
littlewonder


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Status: offline 		Never been on SecondLife, don't play video games or online games or cyber. Never have. I still have a hard time understanding what my daughter gets out of video games. It's just beyond my comprehension. I guess the thing is I like my real life so never really felt a need to pretend to be someone or something else.


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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/10/2013 6:40:50 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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quote:

ORIGINAL: BebeMekanic

Sometimes the people I speak here keep on questioning me about what or why Second Life, a virtual place where I started to know about BDSM and that I still like to use to experiment and have fun.
I think that everyone can find a way to receive pleasure even cybering or meeting in real life. There are so many reasons why someone chose one way or another, all respectable as long as you find an agreement with the person who you would like to engage.
I joined to collarme because I am stimulated by meeting many different people online that I find difficoult to find where I live.
Of course I am also curious to try things out on myself, on my body, but I keep the two things separated as if the online world mean another life for me.
But the real thing that really gets pushed is my mind, this is the place where I connect, this is the realm of my pain and pleasure.
this is my first post I apologize if it is off topic.
Anyway just few words about my recent thoughts.



I think SL is a oerfect venue to find those of like minds.

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RE: Second Life - Real Life - 6/15/2013 4:02:37 PM   
BambiBoi


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Status: offline 		Hello Bebe, welcome to CM. Had kind of a trial by fire, but that is our way.

My Experience with SecondLife

I joined SL after being involved in the BDSM first hand. I used my time there to explore concepts I was unwilling to explore in real life because the kinks were either highly dangerous, illegal, or difficult in execution. I have the stomach to entertain quite devious kinks, but no will to follow through with them. I'm not sure CM allows me to give examples; Lets take a less incriminating one: a continued role play of workplace sexual harassment. I recognized the impractical nature of these desires, and was satisfied to see them bounce along in a safe medium where no one would be financially or physically hurt. Maybe that's why I'm not a wanker on CM, ameliorating my unfeasible fantasies in a fantasy world... Where other people go often to do the same.

Other times, my brain wants to engage in BDSM but my body has less interest. Other times still, I just want to chat with friends I've made on the internet. (Anyone here who has come to respect other board members can understand that a friend from online is no less real).

Does SecondLife BDSM Analogue to Real Life BDSM

Like most answers, the truth is boringly hidden between two extremes. SL does not replace first hand experience. But SL has its merits. Online BDSM allows a novice to learn the lingo, taste both dominance and submission, and learn a few of the kinks that exist. The malfunction some people have where they cannot separate the fantasy from reality is a separate issue. I submit that the idiots who roll out of SL and think they can have a 24/7/365 pigfarm of slavegirls in real life were just as delusional before SL.



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