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Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 6:30:31 AM

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I donate plasma twice a week, primarily because a friend depends on plasma derived medications to survive.

Over the years, I have overheard various discussions about the changes in company policy concerning dress code, shoes, hair and other guidelines.

The one I found most interesting was about shoes. Whoever wrote the guideline left it vague, and subject to interpretation by the employees and managers.

A friend who works there is a Domme, and after a few attempts to meet the new guidelines, decided to go for broke.

She bought a pair of leather boots that ended above the knee, that she had seen in a few female domination photos, and wore them to work, with her scubs tucked inside the boots. I have to admit that I found the image she presented attractive, since she had changed her hair style and wore just enough make up to make the impact perfect.

The manager agreed that the boots met the guideline, and were quite attractive on her, then promptly told her to put her scubs over the boots. The reason, the accent the boots had on her legs was distracting to the five straight male workers at the center. I saw two of them watching her walk so intently that they walked into a glass door to the processing department.

Now I am not a submissive male, but I do so enjoy a nice pair of legs, and hers are, for lack of a better term, exquisite.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 8:09:28 AM

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Personally, I don't see a need to wear such attire with scrubs, and I assume she is a nurse or phlebotomist? Around here, the boots would not be permitted at all.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 8:45:34 AM

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The company I worked for before going out on my own would have allowed the boots. One company that I worked for wouldn't allow open toed shoes that did not have a back or ankle strap (ie: mules or sandals) for safety reasons. What makes that funny is that it was a corporate travel agency. It's not like it was an industrial setting.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 11:12:13 AM

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We had a no open-toe shoe policy as well. It was an office. Then they changed the rule to no more than 3 toes can show. Apparently showing 5 toes over 3 carries more risk? Or, whoever created the rule must have had an aversion to pinkie toes.

I don't understand the boots with scrubs, but if it was all within guidelines then I don't have a problem with it.
I would think if someone was told to cover something, that was okay'd and within the rules, because it was distracting to the opposite sex, that company could be setting themselves up for a sexual harassment claim.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 11:55:33 AM

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good for you for donating plasma. :-)

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 12:43:45 PM

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Personally, I don't see a need to wear such attire with scrubs, and I assume she is a nurse or phlebotomist? Around here, the boots would not be permitted at all.

She is a phlebotomist and the boots were after a few attempts to get shoes she had purchased approved. As I said, the new guidelines was written in such a vague way that it was left up to management.

Prior to the change, the rule was simply closed toe shoes.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 12:48:24 PM

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Were the boots flat or with heels?

I realize I may be in the minority here, but I don't really care to see medical personnel trying to "dress up" their uniform.

Most phlebotomists I know where sneakers, nurses shoes or those dreadful crocs. I'm sure if she had purchased any of those, they would have been approved.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 1:47:06 PM

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Were the boots flat or with heels?

I realize I may be in the minority here, but I don't really care to see medical personnel trying to "dress up" their uniform.

Most phlebotomists I know where sneakers, nurses shoes or those dreadful crocs. I'm sure if she had purchased any of those, they would have been approved.

From what I am led to believe, the shoes that were approved were leather, closed toe, high top, and by high top, higher than the average sneaker. Most of the staff who work on the floor are wearing boots of some kind. Those that arent are wearing something that looks like a cross between boots and tennis shoes.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 2:36:40 PM

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From what I am led to believe, the shoes that were approved were leather, closed toe, high top, and by high top, higher than the average sneaker.

Sounds like they were pushing for a more professional shoe than just a white sneaker. There are many on the market that would fulfill that definition.

Closed toes should be the norm for medical personnel. We are always dropping things. I never went to work with the thought that I had to be "hotly" dressed when I go... just so that I could function in the role I was hired to perform.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 5:45:24 PM

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You have to understand my friend, she has tendency to go over the top when she gets frustrated, and after three new pairs of shoes, she just went to the extreme. Since then she has been wearing normal boots, resembling jump boots.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 6:06:26 PM

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Just my two cents worth .... If the policy were that vague that it took me 3 pairs of shoes to try and get the right shoe, I would have asked after the first pair I bought didn't measure up. I've written policies for the office I run and so far, there's been no question about what is expected of my staff.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 6:49:40 PM

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The dress code where I work is very loose, almost non-existent. Most of the case workers and supervisors wear either sneakers or casual "practical" shoes because most of us are driving from client to client; taking the bus with clients; teaching clients how to do various tasks. There are, however, some female caseworkers who wear high heels, 3 inches and higher. I don't know how they make it through the day without their feet aching, but I guess some women were born in heels (I wasn't one of them).

As for dress--most people wear jeans or dress slacks and nice shirts. In the summer, it is permitted to wear shorts if they aren't too short. Occasionally, some women will wear skirts, usually ones that go below the knee. Tees are permitted, but only if they are void of offensive pictures and language. If I wear a tee, it is usually solid colored or one put out by the agency, the Mental Health Association, Hunt of a Lifetime or some other mental health organization. And I only wear a tee when I know I am going to be doing some hard physical labor with a client--or if I have to go into work on a weekend.

The agency is really rather laid back as far as dress code. The staff is trusted to present a professional appearance at all times. And yet it is accepted and expected that none of the staff dress in such a way to present a boundary through their appearance in connecting with their clients. It is much easier for a client to connect with a caseworker if that caseworker is wearing jeans and a polo than if that caseworker were wearing a suit.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 7:35:04 PM

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I can see making a point about the impractical nature of the policy. I would have refused to put the scrubs over the boots and made a point that as adults, they need to focus on their work instead of their female coworkers.

And then I would have sweetly suggested that the policy be written in a clear and coherent manner.

If they don't want white sneakers, then state that. State that only black and brown shoes and ankle boots are acceptable.

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RE: Workplace guidelines. - 6/11/2013 9:45:45 PM

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In my last job, we were not allowed any open toed shoes. It was an office job but they didn't want anyone to drop something on their toes or something in the office and then they could get sued. We also were not allowed to wear shoes with rubber soles because they were seen as unprofessional. We had a dress code that was about 5 pages long and every single year it got longer. It was ridiculous and nobody could ever keep up with it so almost everyday someone got a lecture about their attire.

At my new office job, no one really cares what you wear. The guidelines are "use common sense". We're currently on casual business for the summer and basically guys come in wearing Hawaiian shirts and girls come in wearing flip flops...not the plastic or foam ones but ones with little flowers and stuff on them. No one sees me at my job so I don't normally dress up like I did at my old job and I'm usually barefoot under my desk, just slipping them on when I have to get up from my desk.

ETA: I would think wearing those boots would not be allowed with scrubs. Usually jobs where you have to wear scrubs you have to wear some kind of rubber sole, no open toe, flat type of shoe. At least that's how it is for those I know who are nurses, PA's, dental assistants, etc...

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