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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/14/2013 8:58:14 PM

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You will always see an idealized form of beauty on ads. How else are they going to sell you shit you don't need? They need shame, fear, flaws and insecurities. And if you don't have any then damnit we'll invent some. "thigh gap"? Get the fuck out of here.

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/14/2013 9:18:26 PM

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And some (ahem) think banning picture techniques will help those with low self esteem pretend this kind of beauty doesn't exist or is unobtainable. Just because some can't obtain it doesn't make it unobtainable and it definitely does exist. Don't hide it.

Show me. Show me a model who doesnt need to have her photos touched and I will concede your point. If you cant, then its a false portrayal, despite the contention that its "ok" because some may look like that. Especially in light of at least 90% of the models dont look like that, but you wouldnt know that by the photos.

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You don't get rid of this level of beauty. You get OVER it. Educate the youth on the reality of media. But I doubt that the youth suffering from eating disorders because they don't know that magazine pictures are airbrushed.

You are extremely wrong.

http://www.edreferral.com/body_image.htm#Dying to Fit In

TUESDAY, DECEMBER 07, 2010

MENTAL HEALTH EXPERTS CALL FOR WARNING LABELS ON AIRBRUSHED PHOTOS

Britain's Royal College of Psychiatrists has published a statement calling for warning labels on airbrushed photos of models and celebrities, and for a ban on underweight models at London Fashion Week.

The college's call to action urges the government as well as the media and fashion industries to take greater responsibility in the fight against eating disorders. The college believes that labels on photos would help to raise awareness of how widespread photo manipulation is, and to dissuade people from attempting to achieve "unattainable physical perfection."

The college also urged the British government to establish a forum, made up of politicians, experts and representatives from the media and advertising, for the development of an editorial ethical code. Dr. Adrienne Key of the college's eating disorders section said the media must be prevented from "glamorizing" excessive weight loss and exacerbating the psychological and social pressures faced by young people.

She commented: "What we need to do is raise people's awareness of what they are looking at. A lot of people have no idea how much manipulation goes on. The aims of the forum should be to collaboratively develop an ethical editorial code that realistically addresses the damaging portrayal of eating disorders, raises awareness of unrealistic visual imagery created through airbrushing and digital enhancement, and also addresses the skewed and erroneous content of magazines."

Take it for what its worth. Its not the only cause, but it is a cause.

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They just don't care because airbrushing is NOT the problem. So why would anyone think stopping air brushing is the solution?

And the bolded portion was my point...ahem.

Ahem... bold away. Even you cant shake my self image.

The part you are negating is the age of the market... its no longer 15 year olds, its now 5 year olds, aspiring to be the Next Top Model... which I happen to actually like because it IS a realistic look at what these women look like before the touching occurs.

And, honestly, are you going to try and say these models dont suffer from eating disorders themselves? Its talked about ad nauseam.

http://www.edreferral.com/Celebrities_who_died_or_have_Eating_Disorders.htm

So lets leave that discussion of whether modeling, air touching photos, ect causes eating disorders.

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/14/2013 9:59:08 PM

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lol I used to live near Hollywood. OMG, it is amazing how much stars look like ordinary people. I went to various events, premiers, those thingies where people get stars on the boulevard.. they looked like ordinary joes for the most part. There were a few exceptions of course. Loni Anderson for instance comes across much larger on camera than she is in person. If you recall a TV show called Swat (waaaaaaaaaaaay back), the lead actor was pretty rugged and handsome on film, but in person, very pock-marked, very wrinkled. We have enjoyed created illusions for years in TV, movies, and print, and people have believed what they see, up until it is exposed as fraud. And even then the ideal remains in peoples eyes because that is the more prevalent.

We made the bed. The only thing that will straighten things out is to completely strip it and start fresh. I don't see that happening. It has already carried over into regular people life, size 0 used to be a size 2, XL used to mean size 16, now it is 14 or even 12. We are doomed. lol

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/14/2013 10:01:02 PM

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I met Pam Anderson, without makeup. Took me a few to figure out just who she was with her body guards... lol

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/14/2013 10:16:44 PM

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When I take pictures of my family and friends, I 'edit' them. Why not even out a skin tone, make a mole disappear, soften a line or two? I like the people I show the pictures to, to like them. You cant really tell I have done anything, I simply ease off glaring bits to bring out the best. I believe in it. Part of being photogenic or not is the way the camera reacts to someone. Someone who is typically not photogenic will be standing with a big lampshade right behind their head making it look like a dumb hat, that kind of thing can wreck a picture and the person who it is of, will hate it. I bring out the best in the picture because I can.

I see the photoshopping etc they do to celebrities and what not, the difference is huge. I think we need to get over our image of what is beautiful in this current society. I would like to see 'real' become fashionable and beautiful. Because we seem to be into tiny young women doesnt mean we always will be. Look into the past, into other cultures, it is not a consensus that skinny blonde chicks are the most beautiful in the world.

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/14/2013 10:42:59 PM

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Blending out a mole... taking off a scar... evening out eye color (red eyes)... evening out skin tones.. I can see that. I can see the removal of stray hair. I can see editing out a tattoo even.

Here is an example....

She is beautiful.

But when you start changing the body, something is wrong.

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/15/2013 12:06:36 PM

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I concede to your point tazzy.

I still don't think airbrushing should be banned but I'm not part of the demographic that was ever aimed at to begin with. 90's Models had features that even as a child I knew I could never have. I would never have long straight hair that was blonde or red or light brown. I'd never have blue or green eyes. I'd never have white or light skin. I'd never be tall. I'd never have thin, delicate fingers. I'd never have a high arch in my foot (this hit me hard because I wanted to do toe ballet really badly but was horrible at it because of my feet). And there was no way to work towards having ANY of these features at the time. So I said "Fu%k it". I said "Fu%k it at the age of, like, 7 because I knew what was being asked of me was impossible. It was a reality I had to face. But I can see how a young white girl could look at pictures in a magazine and say "one day that could be me!" because everything seems so tangible with a little work.

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/15/2013 1:07:35 PM

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lol Apparently its not just models they are photoshopping... now its $7 million dollar homes too! New York real estate needs a little help to look good too!..

"Manhattan real estate broker featured on the hit reality show "Million Dollar Listing New York" was spotted on a recent episode digitally enhancing promotional photos of a $7 million home.
During a May episode, Luis Ortiz, 26, and his brother used Photoshop to alter promotional photos of a five-bedroom home in Manhattan's swanky Greenwich Village by adding marble countertops, hardwood floors and upgrading the kitchen."

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/broker-million-dollar-listing-caught-photoshopping-apt-pictures-130143671.html

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RE: No more air brushed models? - 6/15/2013 8:19:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst

lol I used to live near Hollywood. OMG, it is amazing how much stars look like ordinary people. I went to various events, premiers, those thingies where people get stars on the boulevard.. they looked like ordinary joes for the most part. There were a few exceptions of course. Loni Anderson for instance comes across much larger on camera than she is in person. If you recall a TV show called Swat (waaaaaaaaaaaay back), the lead actor was pretty rugged and handsome on film, but in person, very pock-marked, very wrinkled. We have enjoyed created illusions for years in TV, movies, and print, and people have believed what they see, up until it is exposed as fraud. And even then the ideal remains in peoples eyes because that is the more prevalent.

We made the bed. The only thing that will straighten things out is to completely strip it and start fresh. I don't see that happening. It has already carried over into regular people life, size 0 used to be a size 2, XL used to mean size 16, now it is 14 or even 12. We are doomed. lol

How right you are, Missokyst. In the mid-70's, I rode up in an elevator with Zsa Zsa and Eva Gabor and didn't recognize them, as they had no make up on and their hair wasn't done up.

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