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MrBukani -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/17/2013 3:57:33 AM)

This is the guy who sold chemical weapons[:D]

It's old news better read up.
Sell them as many guns as they can afford, I say.
What the fuck does it matter who wins?
Both sides have badies. So again they want to kill eachother? They have the right to their civil war.



SpanishMatMaster -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/17/2013 9:20:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
The odds of Luxembourg having a top spy in the US government is exponentially lower than our having troops in Syria. So, go ahead and make your claim.
I made only one claim, and it has been proven right all along. Nobody has provided proof that there are US troops in Syria.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Accept that not everyone is going to make those same decisions
As long as you accept that I wear sometimes black shoes.

What... you telling me you never had problems with that...? Well... same here, you know? You can say what you want. And me too.

Ok, something else or will you "STFU" as you suggested me some time ago?



DesideriScuri -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/17/2013 6:09:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SpanishMatMaster
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
The odds of Luxembourg having a top spy in the US government is exponentially lower than our having troops in Syria. So, go ahead and make your claim.
I made only one claim, and it has been proven right all along. Nobody has provided proof that there are US troops in Syria.
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Accept that not everyone is going to make those same decisions
As long as you accept that I wear sometimes black shoes.
What... you telling me you never had problems with that...? Well... same here, you know? You can say what you want. And me too.
Ok, something else or will you "STFU" as you suggested me some time ago?


I don't know what the fuck your deal is. You get all bent out of shape because no one will give adequate proof, and you don't accept the possibility that they aren't willing to prove it; that their proving it to you isn't worth a hill of shit compared to what could happen if they did expose their sources.

Get over yourself. Yes. You are correct. No one has shown proof. Relying solely on the reported troop details is incredibly naive. But, that is also a choice you have every right to make.



SpanishMatMaster -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/17/2013 9:11:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I don't know what the fuck your deal is.
Same here, honestly.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
You get all bent out of shape because
I don't. I just remind the readers of sentences like "there is a fact that", "only an ignorant can thing that we do not" etc... a reminder that there is no proof.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
you don't accept the possibility that they aren't willing to prove it
As much as you do not accept the possibility that they cannot because there is none.
And I have given a reason why somebody who has it and cannot give it should STFU instead of insisting in public forums that there is.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Get over yourself. Yes. You are correct. No one has shown proof.
Yep, and I will remind it when I feel like it, for the readers of sentences like "it is a fact that" "there is no doubt that" etc. Everytime I feel like it, I will ask and remind that nobody has shown any proof. Problem?

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
incredibly naive
Your opinion. My opinion is that thinking that somebody who HAS confidential information would really come here and make childish games like "There is this info but I won't give it - la la la-la-la" - is more than naive, is plain stupid.

But everybody has his opinions about the opinions of the rest. You have yours, I have mine.

So, how was it? "Get over yourself" and "STFU" :) You are worse than wasting your time, you are actually moving me to continue with a subject I would have already abandoned otherwise. You do that often. Maybe intentionally...? Maybe secretly you want me to remind the people that nobody has provided proof that there are US troops in Syria. Ah... no idea, and as in the case itself, I do not dare to guess :) .

Best regards.



DesideriScuri -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 2:38:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SpanishMatMaster
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I don't know what the fuck your deal is.
Same here, honestly.
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
You get all bent out of shape because
I don't. I just remind the readers of sentences like "there is a fact that", "only an ignorant can thing that we do not" etc... a reminder that there is no proof.
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
you don't accept the possibility that they aren't willing to prove it
As much as you do not accept the possibility that they cannot because there is none.
And I have given a reason why somebody who has it and cannot give it should STFU instead of insisting in public forums that there is.


And, here is where you are wrong. I'm not supporting anyone's story over anyone else's. I accept the possibility that those who haven't/can't/won't prove their allegations are right, and that there is also a very equal possibility that they are wrong. Very different from your stance.

The choice to put it out on a public forum without verification is completely theirs. It isn't your choice to do that, but theirs. Accept that and do with their assertions as you will. If you don't accept info without proof, then, I think you can figure out what to do with their assertions.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Get over yourself. Yes. You are correct. No one has shown proof.
Yep, and I will remind it when I feel like it, for the readers of sentences like "it is a fact that" "there is no doubt that" etc. Everytime I feel like it, I will ask and remind that nobody has shown any proof. Problem?
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
incredibly naive
Your opinion. My opinion is that thinking that somebody who HAS confidential information would really come here and make childish games like "There is this info but I won't give it - la la la-la-la" - is more than naive, is plain stupid.
But everybody has his opinions about the opinions of the rest. You have yours, I have mine.
So, how was it? "Get over yourself" and "STFU" :) You are worse than wasting your time, you are actually moving me to continue with a subject I would have already abandoned otherwise. You do that often. Maybe intentionally...? Maybe secretly you want me to remind the people that nobody has provided proof that there are US troops in Syria. Ah... no idea, and as in the case itself, I do not dare to guess :) .


I am not moving you to do anything. You are choosing to respond.

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Best regards.


<smirk> As if...



MrBukani -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 2:55:00 AM)

When you have special forces on the ground in a warzone that you don't want other people to know about.
How the hell can you prove it spanishMatmaster?

You can't but you can deduct logical sense and say. Calculating chance makes it very reasonable.
Look at Echelon and the prism software used to spy. It's everywhere.
And to protect americans who live all over the world you need troops on the surface.
So it's more likely troops are being deployed anywhere in areas wich matter, to the grander scheme of national security.
Screaming YOU HAVE NO PROOF is a useless argument in covert operations.
Isnt it?

Ask yourself if you would deploy special forces around the world if you are capable to do so.
Or would you sit back in your chair and go nowhere?
Very unlikely.
If you were a captain in my outfit, you would be the first to be relieved (shot). Cause the greatest enemy is always the one within, who has the shutters over his eyes.(tunnelvision)

PS. The likelyhood(calculated chance) of a certain situation with given variables should be enough proof to act on the circumstances. Just realize the danger of living in denial of not being prepared, because you need 100% proof.



SpanishMatMaster -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 4:23:17 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I'm not supporting anyone's story over anyone else's.
And I said the contrary... where?
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Very different from your stance.
Actually exactly my stance. But it does not change the fact that nobody has provided proof that there are US troops in Syria.
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Accept that and do with their assertions as you will
This is exactly what I do. And what I will is to comment what I do.
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
I am not moving you to do anything. You are choosing to respond.
Both are true.

Best regards.



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 8:54:16 PM)

I'm just looking forward to amerika bombing the shit out of Dimona and arming the Palestinian freedom fighters so they can get rid of the white phosphorous using terrorist scum in Palestine.



tazzygirl -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:19:31 PM)

Why dont you encourage your own country to do it instead?



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:31:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Why dont you encourage your own country to do it instead?

Oh dear. I'll type slowly.

Because my own country doesn't (erroneously) claim some great moral high ground and my own country doesn't have the capability.

M'kay?



tazzygirl -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:34:06 PM)

So instead you want the bullies on the block to take care of your lil problem. Then you can come out swinging about how we are bullies. Typical.



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:41:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

So instead you want the bullies on the block to take care of your lil problem. Then you can come out swinging about how we are bullies. Typical.

At least you acknowledge that amerika is the bully.

Perhaps there's hope for you yet.



tazzygirl -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:44:04 PM)

~smirks

We know what we are. We also know we are seen that way because other countries are too much of the pansy type to get the job done, as evidenced by how many countries asked us to do just what you are. However, we are getting smarter. Even a bully gets tired of fighting the fights of those too chicken to do so themselves.



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:56:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

~smirks

We know what we are. We also know we are seen that way because other countries are too much of the pansy type to get the job done, as evidenced by how many countries asked us to do just what you are. However, we are getting smarter. Even a bully gets tired of fighting the fights of those too chicken to do so themselves.

I doubt it, hun. amerika will keep right on sending its sons and daughters to die where ever its owners tell it to.



tazzygirl -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 9:57:19 PM)

Something you are praying for instead of getting a national backbone and doing it yourself. [;)]



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 10:04:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Something you are praying for instead of getting a national backbone and doing it yourself. [;)]

Wow. Firing the moronic statements three at a time now.

You're doing well.

Even for an amerikan.



tazzygirl -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 10:05:59 PM)

[;)]

It hurts you, I know. Its ok. I understand.



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 10:13:07 PM)

Well, understand is a word I'd never have associated with you.



tazzygirl -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 10:17:51 PM)

Since we have never crossed paths on a thread, how would you possibly have any idea of my level of understanding?



Curmudgeonly1 -> RE: A Dilemna For Obama (6/18/2013 10:21:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Since we have never crossed paths on a thread, how would you possibly have any idea of my level of understanding?

Two threads is sufficient to give an indication. Plus, I never said I ruled it out completely.



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