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tazzygirl -> Fetal masturbation as a reason to stop abortions? (6/19/2013 6:24:39 AM)
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In the Pain Capable Uborn Child Protection Act thread, I mentioned we run the risk of politicians wanting to push back the dates to earlier than 20 weeks.
Later on, they can come back with "Well, we discovered, with the advancement of medicine, that at 2 weeks, the fetus can feel pain...."
Well, in this case, I hate being right.
It has begun
(And before I get any flack about the subject matter of this article, it was ran by the Admins first, specifically because of the subject matter)
Rep. Michael Burgess Says 15-Week-Old Male Fetuses Pleasure Themselves
“Watch a sonogram of a 15-week baby, and they have movements that are purposeful,” said Burgess, a former obstetrician-gynecologist. “They stroke their face. If they’re a male baby, they may have their hand between their legs. If they feel pleasure, why is it so hard to believe that they could feel pain?”
The tea party congressman, 62, made the awkward argument during a House Rules Committee hearing today about H.R. bill 1797, which would ban abortions 20 weeks after fertilization.
Burgess, who says that fetal movements can point to pleasurable sexual sensation, argues that abortion should be limited to the first 15 weeks, rather than the proposed 20.
Cleveland Dr. Lisa Perriera of University Hospitals Case Medical Center counters that a fetus’ hand between its legs is nothing more than “practicing using their muscles.”
“Three studies have been done in human fetuses to examine the development of connections between nerves,” Perriera said. “And we don’t think those connections start to form until somewhere between 23 and 30 weeks gestation.”
The congressman’s statement also raises the question of why female fetuses’ hands apparently stay above the belt, and Dr. Perriera believes she has an explanation.
“It’s all boiling down to males again,” she said, “while this legislation is targeting women and limiting women’s rights.”
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/06/rep-michael-burgess-says-15-week-old-male-fetuses-pleasure-themselves/
I have seen articles from the 90's discussing sexual movement of a fetus as early as 30 weeks. (Dont ask how they come by that theory, its really just... too... )
But purposeful? What do you think? Is he right?
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