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The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 6:57:02 AM

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The FBI says they were:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/20/justice/new-york-x-ray-plot/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 7:00:17 AM

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Since when is the Klan a friend of Israel?

Did I miss something?

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 7:11:14 AM

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Since when is the Klan a friend of Israel?

Did I miss something?

I think it may have simply been an excuse to kill Muslims.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 7:14:06 AM

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The clan hates non-whites, Muslims, Jews, native Americans, whites who marry non whites, anyone that is not southern baptist, any one that is pro choice (unless they are prochoice for non whites) basically anyone that is not an inbred redneck jackass.

So the "Enemies of Israel" makes me wonder.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 7:15:18 AM

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yah but its a great plug for the government keeping ya all safe and cozy, even though when something does happen and you expect compensation instead you get the big fuck you because the citizen contract is dead and gone with the constitution and the government has no duty to protect by supreme court decision.

some awesome doublethink that continues to be promulgated upon the american public

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 7:16:43 AM

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quote:

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The clan hates non-whites, Muslims, Jews, native Americans, whites who marry non whites, anyone that is not southern baptist, any one that is pro choice (unless they are prochoice for non whites) basically anyone that is not an inbred redneck jackass.

So the "Enemies of Israel" makes me wonder.

so they support the aristocracy

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 9:57:00 AM

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So the "Enemies of Israel" makes me wonder.

Sort of makes it look like a setup doesn't it.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:09:31 AM

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So the "Enemies of Israel" makes me wonder.

Sort of makes it look like a setup doesn't it.

Sort of makes it look like someone from the FBI is talking out his ass.

The Klan hates Israel. As Jeff said, they hate everything that doesn't conform to their narrow minded, white supremacist, educationally ignorant, ultraconservative view of the world.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:12:42 AM

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The nutcase fringe of christians needs israel to bring about "end times"(;

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:48:06 AM

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I think it may have simply been an excuse to kill Muslims.

Makes more sense than "enemy of Israel"

Still looks fishy

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:51:28 AM

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yah but its a great plug for the government keeping ya all safe and cozy, even though when something does happen and you expect compensation instead you get the big fuck you because the citizen contract is dead and gone with the constitution and the government has no duty to protect by supreme court decision.

some awesome doublethink that continues to be promulgated upon the american public

That is exactly what it is. I could not agree with you more!!

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:51:42 AM

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I had no idea that the Klan had the mental capacity to do anything aside from march, yell about how put upon the white race is and set crosses on fire. Somehow, I just can't see anyone remotely related to the Klan that could build anything that didn't blow up in their face!

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:51:58 AM

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quote:

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The clan hates non-whites, Muslims, Jews, native Americans, whites who marry non whites, anyone that is not southern baptist, any one that is pro choice (unless they are prochoice for non whites) basically anyone that is not an inbred redneck jackass.

I never called them Ultraconservative, ignorant, or narrow minded.

If I would have used the terms you used, I would have to include, Rush, Alex, Beck, everyone at FOX news, the tea party, and my neighbor's cat. (The damn thing actually listens to Rush daily. My neighbor does to, but he then posts the actual facts on a webpage. I think the cat believes rush though)

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 11:56:54 AM

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Your neighbor's cat is making sure that Rush is following his instructions.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 12:03:23 PM

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I object to your title: "The Klan was building a WMD?"

It was not "The Klan".
It was one KKK member and an accomplice.

I am not saying that the KKK are a misunderstood, peace-loving group, but that is like saying all Muslims are terrorists, when someone affiliated with Islam engages in acts of violence or terrorism.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 12:08:37 PM

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quote:

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I object to your title: "The Klan was building a WMD?"

It was not "The Klan".
It was one KKK member and an accomplice.

I am not saying that the KKK are a misunderstood, peace-loving group, but that is like saying all Muslims are terrorists, when someone affiliated with Islam engages in acts of violence or terrorism.

Okay, I give you that.

But can you explain the fact there are a lot of hate crimes laid at the feet of clan members?

It has been my experience that the clan are more overt in their actions, this entire episode is a little too covert for the clan.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 12:45:43 PM

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I object to your title: "The Klan was building a WMD?"

It was not "The Klan".
It was one KKK member and an accomplice.

I am not saying that the KKK are a misunderstood, peace-loving group, but that is like saying all Muslims are terrorists, when someone affiliated with Islam engages in acts of violence or terrorism.

Thats how they do- they set out to demonize a person or a group. Notice how when someone is arrested- they now say if he was a Ron Paul supporter.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 12:51:13 PM

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So the "Enemies of Israel" makes me wonder.

Sort of makes it look like a setup doesn't it.

Sort of makes it look like someone from the FBI is talking out his ass.

The Klan hates Israel. As Jeff said, they hate everything that doesn't conform to their narrow minded, white supremacist, educationally ignorant, ultraconservative view of the world.

I'm not really certain from the article, but my sense is that they could have been talking about "Israel" in the theoretical, Biblical sense, as some extreme Christian groups declare themselves as the "true Israel" while viewing the present day nation-state of Israel as being some kind of pretender. So, when they say "enemies of Israel," they could have meant another kind of Israel, not the one in the Middle East.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 2:29:39 PM

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So the "Enemies of Israel" makes me wonder.

Sort of makes it look like a setup doesn't it.

Sort of makes it look like someone from the FBI is talking out his ass.

The Klan hates Israel. As Jeff said, they hate everything that doesn't conform to their narrow minded, white supremacist, educationally ignorant, ultraconservative view of the world.

I'm not really certain from the article, but my sense is that they could have been talking about "Israel" in the theoretical, Biblical sense, as some extreme Christian groups declare themselves as the "true Israel" while viewing the present day nation-state of Israel as being some kind of pretender. So, when they say "enemies of Israel," they could have meant another kind of Israel, not the one in the Middle East.

I hadn't thought of that but their is a movement called Christian Identity which is a big part of the white "separatist" movement. Christian Identity followers believe that white Europeans are the true Israelites. That might very well be what the Klansman was talking about.

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RE: The Klan was building a WMD? - 6/20/2013 2:44:22 PM

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I object to your title: "The Klan was building a WMD?"

It was not "The Klan".
It was one KKK member and an accomplice.

I am not saying that the KKK are a misunderstood, peace-loving group, but that is like saying all Muslims are terrorists, when someone affiliated with Islam engages in acts of violence or terrorism.

Seems like there was more than two who knew about this and kept silent....

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According to the criminal complaint, Crawford made arrangements with colleagues to contact his wife to retrieve his computer and phone, containing important data, so they could move on with the operation. In an e-mail to an unidentified person, Crawford said: "if something happens I don't want this to go away, it can serve our people well."

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