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changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 8:48:43 AM   
cutiewithabootie


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Ladies. Its me again. My question is about a submissives physical appearance. Do you ladies want input on if a submissive changes her skin tone (tanning or bleaching) or hair color drasticly or contacts to alter eye color?

Is a major diet and excercise to lose weight or gain weight important for you to be aware of?

What about implants or other drastic modification or hair extensions?

Do you want to know what features your submissive has naturally and what may have been financially obtained instead of biologically?

do you want to have a say in these matters or does it not make a difference to you so long as the submissive is visually pleasing and appears healthy?

Would some of these changes bother you if you are un aware upfront?

Thank you for your time
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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 9:49:48 AM   
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I think your question comes in 2 parts: when you meet a sub do they have a duty to disclose non original equipment?
I think its a disclose as you go thing. If the dominant is into hair pulling & she's got long expensive extentions or he's into rope bondage & boobs aren't real these are safety things a dominant needs to know to modify their approach.


Should a sub consult their dominant before making drastic modifications?
I would say its a case by case basis. Timing in the relationship, level of modification & reason should be taken into account. Dom into small boobs meets sub that's been saving for a year to get DD's & has surgery scheduled 2 weeks after meeting him. Really not his call. Relationship is new, she made choice long before meeting...input is allowed but the ship likely has already sailed to big boobs.

Sub has short cute hair but dom likes long. Relationship is several months long & suprisew she comes home with extensions yet dom gets angry. Yes he has grounds...they are expensive, he may like HER short hair even though in the past he liked long, he wanted to be consulted.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 10:27:16 AM   
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Thank you. I really liked how you acknowledged my entire question. Your input was very helpful.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 1:35:08 PM   
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If my slave was unhealthy, then yes, she would be put on a healthy eating routine and exercise. I would force her to get implants....nothing that drastic. My attraction varies so as long as she wasn't oozing slime, I would be fine. Then again, slime might be attractive. :)

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 2:39:35 PM   
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TND- your input is always EXTREMELY valued. I have to maintain healthy eating and excercise due to my active lifestyle. I enjoy several different sports

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 3:11:50 PM   
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I've never really been the type to care too much to change the appearance of someone to suit me. I've always been attracted anyway to whoever has submitted to me, so my thought is why change what works for me.

What is important to me o know are things like implants, extensions, or any other sorts of things that need me o be mindful of their handling. I include prior injuries (be it physical or mental) on that list of things I want to know. Examples include my guy's previous wrist and ankle surgeries or the other wrist being injured in a car accident. I know these aren't the specific appearance related questions you inquired about, so these are just my added ones I pay attention to.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 4:17:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cutiewithabootie

TND- your input is always EXTREMELY valued. I have to maintain healthy eating and excercise due to my active lifestyle. I enjoy several different sports



Thank you so much. Please, call me K.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 7:41:31 PM   
cutiewithabootie


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@K- of course. As you like ;-)

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 7:49:54 PM   
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the ship likely has already sailed to big boobs.

This turn of phrase has kept me smiling off and on all day. I can see a sailor, high up the mast, shouting "Land Ho," as the ship approaches the Mammary Islands.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 8:03:36 PM   
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Mistress, it is important to change a submissive's physical appearance. If you are looking to make him your sissy, then subtle changes such as thinning his eye brows, which would be noticeable, but very subtle. Also making them wear clear nail polish and have their nails manicured. While these are subtle, and may not be noticeable to most people, the sub will be conscious of it and will make efforts to attempt to hide it.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 8:31:50 PM   
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Since I'm not interested in sexual attractiveness of subs, I'm not interested in their appearance for THAT purpose. I AM however very strict about My subs' personal grooming and dressing habits, because 1. They represent Me so I expect them to care about how they look/smell, (I can't have My subs running around town looking like unshaved hermits in stained clothes) and 2. Personal grooming and dressing nice are excellent ways to boost their mood and self confidence, and of course I want My subs to BE confident, not depressed.
As for weight, I don't mind a little chub...but when it is causing actual HEALTH PROBLEMS (diabetes, knee pain, coronary) then oh yeah, they are damn well going on a diet (I'm open to whatever eating plan works best to help them lose weight, if they have a preference). This is something W/we work on together, doing daily checks. I manage their activities and make adjustments as necessary. I currently have SEVERAL subs successfully working on losing weight, lowering blood glucose, and exercising.

If Y/you aren't into that, well that's not YOUR "thing", but it happens to be O/ours. My subs are happy, I'm happy. As a D/s relationship it works, because I'm Directing, deciding whether to Reward or Punish, and they are doing these things not only to improve their health, but they tell Me the fact that it PLEASES Me Motivates them to try harder

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ORIGINAL: cutiewithabootie

Ladies. Its me again. My question is about a submissives physical appearance. Do you ladies want input on if a submissive changes her skin tone (tanning or bleaching) or hair color drasticly or contacts to alter eye color?

Is a major diet and excercise to lose weight or gain weight important for you to be aware of?

What about implants or other drastic modification or hair extensions?

Do you want to know what features your submissive has naturally and what may have been financially obtained instead of biologically?

do you want to have a say in these matters or does it not make a difference to you so long as the submissive is visually pleasing and appears healthy?

Would some of these changes bother you if you are un aware upfront?

Thank you for your time


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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/22/2013 8:38:51 PM   
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I hope that your Dominant values this part of your life. Healthy living takes work to establish the good habits necessary for maintaining it. If someone chooses to limit your practicing it I hope you recognize the red flags and flee. (Unless of course you've become addicted to the workout endorphins to the point of threatening your health, which I've seen some do)



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ORIGINAL: cutiewithabootie

TND- your input is always EXTREMELY valued. I have to maintain healthy eating and excercise due to my active lifestyle. I enjoy several different sports


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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/23/2013 1:25:46 PM   
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quote:

Ladies. Its me again. My question is about a submissives physical appearance. Do you ladies want input on if a submissive changes her skin tone (tanning or bleaching) or hair color drasticly or contacts to alter eye color?


Yes, he would need my permission to make alterations or to continue making alterations. This isn't something I do just to throw my weight around, I want him to feel good about himself, and to be as healthy as he can be within reason. I would have to weigh the possible health problems that could come with altering skin tone (for tanning, does skin cancer run in their family tree, for example, and are they frequently careless and allow themselves to burn. How safe is the stuff used for bleaching or getting a tan from a dye bottle...I would have to research these before allowing it).

If my slave didn't come to me using hair dyes on his head and beard and mustache...I would have had him do so because it makes him not feel so old when he looks in a mirror. Contact lenses? If I liked the colored ones, they would stay. If they enhanced his beauty, definitely. If I thought he was hiding part of himself behind them because his eyes reminded him of a relative he hated, I'd let him wear them for a while and get his butt into therapy. If his wearing them were giving him frequent eye infections...I would consult with his eye doctor before deciding if he would wear glasses instead or have fancy new lazer eye surgery done.


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Is a major diet and excercise to lose weight or gain weight important for you to be aware of?


Yes. That being said...know this; I'm fat. I would be a hypocrite to be hippo-ish and expect my slave to be always starving to be thin. I concentrate on eating more balanced, healthy foods and getting exercise. Two years ago I studied bo's usual diet and became quite alarmed; the man lived on sugar products and some deer meat (sometimes steak, lol). The first thing I did was get him on a daily multi vitamin for men over 50. When he got used to that, I started getting him used to the flavors of hot teas until he found one he didn't detest (wow, he actually likes one)...and drastically reduced his consumption of Orange Crush down from 2-4 liters per day down to one glass between meals and one with dinner...then down to the occasional rare treat, except in summertime. Due to his brain injury his body's thermostat is messed up, making him so hot that he is ill for days, vomiting and "out of it". Orange Crush helps head a significant part of the illness off at the pass, so to speak. Even then, he still drinks tea most of the time, Orange Crush is a treat and medicinal, not merely a water replacement anymore.

I'm introducing him to a strange new food called...veggies. Slowly, in baby steps.

When he's not physically active, doing stuff like yard work or hunting, he tends to put on weight. Getting him a little more active takes it back off. (Men have it so easy compared with women, weight loss wise.) Anyway, during winter months I have him do a walking exercise video at least every other day. It's only the walking in place thing, side steps, and the occasional set of kicking, nothing that would possibly damage his body. I've had to bench him from exercising until his next surgery and he's been putting on weight and hates it...cuz his blood pressure went back up and...well okay, I'll confess to having stroked his vanity these past two years and he hates having his belly poke out enough that it's hard for him to look down at his panties. This has nothing to do with food or diet but...I'm the one who put him into panties, it reminds him of who "wears the pants" in the family and "who wears the panties".

If he were twenty years younger I would have him do targeted exercises for body modification. Yep, one of them would be for his butt...it's too teeny and having more muscle to whack would be nice. If I owned a female, she would be doing calf raises and the Can-Can to give her shapelier legs...if I thought it would raise her self-esteem...because she disliked the shape of her legs.


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What about implants or other drastic modification or hair extensions?


I would need to know for safey reasons. I'm a hair puller, and for someone with longer hair I would enjoy some hair bondage (alas, I own a male and prefer him with moderately short hair...he had to grow his hair a little bit longer than he was used to, enough that I could get a good grab, lol), however, I would never wreck someone's hair extensions. (I'd keep my hands off.)

My slave has had a surgical implant put in recently because I felt it was in his best interest psychologically. I took my time and started preparing his mind for this more than a year ago. I will not allow my slave to mentally/emotionally cringe and feel less, like he's all broken down and should be replaced, just because he is aging and his body wasn't working the way it used to.

His numerous penile piercings were done with my permission, and each one (this was over multiple visits) while I was present. He had twentysomething. He needed these to regain some sensitivity. It made young men at play parties blanch and made bo walk tall with pride, lol. He needed two years before he was emotionally capable of trading these for the implant. Transition is hard...losing his piercings was like losing an arm, and it didn't help when his surgery had a rare complication...the pump prolapsed, breaking through the surgical closure when he sneezed real hard a few days after surgery. The pump part needs replacing, the next (and last) surgery is next week.

You were probably referring to things like breast implants (though I've known people with cheek enhancement implants and the same for chin enhancement implants, etc. Used to live in California, lol). I would probably have been too scared of rupturing the fluid filled bags to do any breast bondage, would have had to find out if I could cause any damage from heat (wax dripping), and would likely have limited myself to the nipples and left the rest of the breast alone. Zero impact play, zero breast bondage. (Hello, paranoid here when it comes to safeties.) My slave's penis has two sacks that fill up with fluid from a pump, and now I am too paranoid to whack it. Even before the surgery I was careful not to cause any penile fractures (one of the tubes filled with blood could rupture), nor anything like...testicular torsion (my cousin's wanking teenage son had to have emergency surgery over his nut getting twisted around).

Btw, my slave begged permission to have his ears pierced...but I said hell no. I wouldn't like how he'd look with earrings, and knowing him, before a year was out he'd want to start making the holes bigger and bigger and bigger. Ugh. I have to look at his daughter's ears looking like that...and yanno, the girl should be able to outdo her daddy on SOMETHING. (She had piercings and later on he got piercings, a H of a lot more than she did AND in the genitals, lol. She got several tattos and...viola...daddy was with her in the tattoo parlor and became obsessed with getting tatto'd. bo knows I want her to have her ear piercings without her daddy copying those too; the younger generation has to outdo us old things on at least something, lol.)


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Do you want to know what features your submissive has naturally and what may have been financially obtained instead of biologically?


Yes. Not out of any...criticism or judgment, nor to use it against them psychologically. I want to know if they feel they can trust me with everything...just how much trust did I earn, anyway? (Psst...if I were rich I'd have a nose job, a boob lift, and liposuction. Does that answer part of your unasked question? I am not judgmental about people trying to better themselves as long as it's for the right reasons and not for reasons like...being addicted to getting plastic surgeries.)

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do you want to have a say in these matters or does it not make a difference to you so long as the submissive is visually pleasing and appears healthy?


My submissive is also my slave, keep that in mind when I answer your questions. This is a lifetime partnership, till death do we part.

Yes, I have "a say". If I didn't I wouldn't be in this relationship. I look after his own best interest as well as "us". I will be more flexible in my own desires when it comes to ensuring that my partner is visually pleasing (did I tell you that I detest facial hair on men I'm intimate with? bo's facial hair is very important to him at this time of his life so I'm allowing him to keep it. It's prickly enough to force me to rub my lips after a kiss, and as far as having it stab my clit...hell no, lol). He has offered to shave it off...but I know what's in his heart and I won't let him. His being mentally, emotionally, and physically healthy is more important to me than how "visually appealing" he is. Besides, if I cannot stand his whiskers I can always look at his nice fuzzy chest, his little butt, nice legs, and penis.



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Would some of these changes bother you if you are un aware upfront?


No...but then, I'm the type who made sure any man that became interested in me knew I had a history with having cancer. 4 times. I even let them know early on in our talks, before the first meetup, when my cancer was active and I was having treatment, to give them a chance to decide for themselves if they could handle what they might be getting into. I also let them know I had an autistic son who would always need to live with me, and someday when I die would likely have to go live in some group home if a family member didn't take him in. (Also that I've got cats, lol.)

If you are going to be in a casual relationship with someone, I don't see any need to tell them all the quirks you'd rather keep private. If someone you thought was long term relationship material rejected you so easily...clearly they were the wrong person (not a bad person, just the wrong person) to trust with everything you are, have been and will be.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/23/2013 3:37:51 PM   
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Thank you so much for being so explainatory and clear in your answers

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/25/2013 3:46:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: stephimaid

Mistress, it is important to change a submissive's physical appearance. If you are looking to make him your sissy, then subtle changes such as thinning his eye brows, which would be noticeable, but very subtle. Also making them wear clear nail polish and have their nails manicured. While these are subtle, and may not be noticeable to most people, the sub will be conscious of it and will make efforts to attempt to hide it.

stephani

Sissy really isn't my thing, but if I'm going to go to the time, effort & expense of modifying a sub why the hell would they be allowed to hide it?

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/25/2013 4:08:08 PM   
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I would like to point out that I identify as a submissive

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/25/2013 5:09:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
I would force her to get implants....


Personally, I'd pick one with nice boobs to begin with.

OP,
I assume you wanted the opinions of women, but since I'm here anyway:
I like to know what is natural and not, I like to know everything really.

Sexual history... Not so much.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 6/25/2013 5:34:31 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RedMagic1

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ORIGINAL: theRose4U
the ship likely has already sailed to big boobs.

This turn of phrase has kept me smiling off and on all day. I can see a sailor, high up the mast, shouting "Land Ho," as the ship approaches the Mammary Islands.

He should be sporting a long mast & have a small side kick that points up saying "da pain, da pain"

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 7/3/2013 9:56:16 AM   
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I am not attracted to a sub so therefor his appearance is not as important to me.He must be clean,healthy,single,able,willing,solvent,local.
As Long as he is not very Unattractive. Or replusive.

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RE: changing a submissives physical appearance - 7/3/2013 5:59:03 PM   
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If my girl wants to change for herself, it's her prerogative. She values her ability to choose, and I support her in that. The outcome is also something she deals with more than anyone else, for better or worse.

If my girl wants to change for me, she asks, and we discuss.

I will always support her healthy choices, and if she were to make an unhealthy choice I would comment and if need be push the conversation; but ultimately I would drop it, instead of trying to wrest the choice from her. That is a matter of respect and understanding, in our relationship.

What works for you might be different, so do what's right for you.

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