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US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/23/2013 9:51:25 AM   
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BREAKING: US Formally Charges Edward Snowden With Espionage After He Leaked Classified NSA Records

Federal prosecutors have filed a sealed criminal complaint against Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked a trove of documents about top-secret surveillance programs, and the United States has asked Hong Kong to detain him on a provisional arrest warrant, according to U.S. officials.

Snowden was charged with espionage, theft and conversion of government property, the officials said.

The complaint was filed in the Eastern District of Virginia, a jurisdiction where Snowden’s former employer, Booz Allen Hamilton, is headquartered, and a district with a long track record in prosecuting cases with national security implications.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

Snowden flew to Hong Kong last month after leaving his job at an NSA facility in Hawaii with a collection of highly classified documents that he acquired while working at the agency as a systems analyst.

The documents, some of which have been published in The Washington Post and Britain’s Guardian newspaper, detailed some of the most secret surveillance operations undertaken by the United States and the United Kingdom, as well as classified legal memos and court orders underpinning the programs in the United States. [small world]

The 29-year-old intelligence analyst revealed himself June 9 as the leaker in an interview with the Guardian and said he went to Hong Kong because it provided him the “cultural and legal framework to allow me to work without being immediately detained.”

Snowden subsequently disappeared from public view; it is thought that he is still in the Chinese territory. Hong Kong has its own legislative and legal systems but ultimately answers to Beijing, under the so-called “one country, two systems” arrangement.

The leaks have sparked national and international debates about the secret powers of the NSA to infringe on the privacy of both Americans and foreigners. Officials from President Obama down have said they welcomed the opportunity to explain the importance of the programs,


I am so happy that mr ohaha is going to explain



why its SO important to violate everyones rights.



Obama Explains Why It Is OK The HE Is Now Collecting The Whole World's Phone Books

its commercially expedient, how aristocratic!

Wake Up Call 2013: Obama DHS Prepares For Civil War

proving we ARE presently in civil war at this very moment





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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/23/2013 11:18:45 AM   
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Hong Kong said the papers sent didn't comply with legal requirements. I think there's more to it, like maybe they're mad because the US has allegedly (according to Snowden) been spying on Hong Kong and China and has been hacking their computers. Of course, they likely do the same to us.

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/23/2013 1:12:16 PM   
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oh ok

yeh its being discussed here

thanks for helping

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 2:03:40 AM   
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They don't have Assange yet either. How can these other countries be so uncooperative after all "we've" done for them ? Know what ? Ecuador better be loaning the US a BUNCH of money or else they risk getting a bombing. Two, I MEAN TWO people now prefer Ecuador. Remember Chavez ? Well whoever runs Ecuador can be just as villified. All it takes is a few government spokespeople to say how they are violating Women's rights or some shit and 24.6 % of the US sheeple will support a regime change. You know, like the one they tried in Venezuela.

Fact is the rest of the world is also sick of this shit. The warmongers of the US and those in Israel operationg partly through their agency known as AIPAC are pushing for all regimes in the world to be friendly. The definition of "peace" in the UN charter is "absence of opposition". What that boils down to is killing them. But the actions of the axis powers are a bit too much for even the bloated, criminal, NAMBLA loving fucked up UN membership. They condemn many actions taken by the US and Israel, despite being relatively powerless to do jack shit about it.

The actions of the US and Israel are even more untolerated by certain other countries, and while this is significant drift off the OT here, it is pertinent to illustrate that the world is not friends with the US anymore. Put together the following facts and draw your own conclusion;

China, a couple of years ago, put up their own independent GPS system, and practiced shooting one of their own satellites. What this means is that if they are on the other side of the next war which is highly likely, they will be able to severely impair our worldwide communications network. What's more, we will have to ask a friend for a lift to repair or launch any satellites because our "long term thinking leaders" have no replacement for the space shuttle. Does this mean going back to building Apollo class rockets of forty years ago ? If nobody helps us, that is exactly what it means because we are really low on friends these days.

Russia has really bested our Patriot missile and are now proving their loyalty to Syria. Some S300 type missiles shot down an Israeli plane recently. I am surprised the Jews are not screaming that it is an act of war, but even they know better. They are starting to get the idea that people all over the world are sick of their fucking shit. What's more Israel can go ahead and beef up their attempts at slowing or stopping arms shipments to the lawful dictatorship in Syria, but Russia is sure to respond by sending over some S400 missiles which will shoot down just about anything, including our supposedly superior planes.

Which are not. The military didn't even want the F-35, though I am not sure exactly why right now. They were sold to congress. That is how things work here, business runs everything, and runs the country into the ground.

Now when the shit hits the fan this time, where are we going to borrow money to finance the wars ? And think about this, Russias debt to GDP ratio is under 10 %, what is ours ? Have we gotten worse than Greece yet ?

Start this war, go ahead. You are going to see rationing, even though we can produce enough oil for domestic needs, we have to ship it out for refinement. To whom ? To countries that are sick of our shit, that's who.

Some are saying that Syria was to be next, right after Iraq, but Iraq turned into a fucking nightmare. Saddam had popular support, we killed those supporters in the fucking millions and the world saw it. Now they think they can take Iran, even though it no longer has a US installed dictator ? As much as many Iraqis hated Saddam, they hated Americans worse, and they remember who the fuck gave Saddam the power in the first place.

The Shah of Iran is gone and even if many do not support the current regime there, they support us even less. We would have to kill them down to every last Man, Woman and child.

What do you think we should do now ? It's a bit too late to back out.

We are talking the inevitable collapse. The government cannot even afford to pay the fucking electric bill without borrowing or printing money, and that is another story. The national debt you see, as significant as it is, there is something else. While they are not physically printing the FRNs, they are still creating millions of dollars out of thin air practically every day. How long can this go on ?

Answer : A little bit longer in wartime.

You tell me, are you optimisitc about all this ?

And now foreign entities have a shitload of information from Assange and Snowden, think they won't use it ? They are already bitching and want to "have a little talk" about what kind of spying we've been doing on them.

Now they need more surveilence to watch anyone who has any security clearance. They are getting stretched thinner than a gnat's ass over a 55 gallon drum. Your tax dollars at work.

T^T

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 3:10:14 AM   
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Fuck them!
They got caught spying on American citizens on American soil so they got their hand slapped!
And they say that the IRS hasn't changed anything and that they're STILL targeting groups that Obama doesn't like! U.S. Citizens!
They belong in prison.
We need a whole bunch of "special prosecutors!"

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 5:09:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Fuck them!
They got caught spying on American citizens on American soil so they got their hand slapped!
And they say that the IRS hasn't changed anything and that they're STILL targeting groups that Obama doesn't like! U.S. Citizens!
They belong in prison.
We need a whole bunch of "special prosecutors!"


Amen, brother! Preach it!

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 7:09:59 AM   
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As I have said before, this NSA program has been going on since Bush/Cheney. It came out then, and I will say with no possibility of being wrong, that it will happen again no matter which party gets in the whitehouse next.

Neither political party entirely trusts American citizens, I mean come on, we the people voted the power mad idiots into office, I mean if I were elected president, I wouldnt trust the people either, especially radical extremists like that insane DaddySatyr. I mean who knows what he is up to, he might be a secret twinky eating killer just waiting to drown some poor innocent with a super soaker....

Or Tazzy, we all know that she is an anarchist bent on bringing down the government by use of mood and mind altering substances such as chocolate and bananas.

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 7:48:06 AM   
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As I have said before, this NSA program has been going on since Bush/Cheney. It came out then, and I will say with no possibility of being wrong, that it will happen again no matter which party gets in the whitehouse next.

Neither political party entirely trusts American citizens, I mean come on, we the people voted the power mad idiots into office, I mean if I were elected president, I wouldnt trust the people either.

Or Tazzy, we all know that she is an anarchist bent on bringing down the government by use of mood and mind altering substances such as chocolate and bananas.



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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 2:49:58 PM   
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What is the difference of the government intercepting all of the people's correspondence, without probable cause, and profiling? In both cases, the authorities "think" you might be guilty of something. At least in profiling, you have genuine FBI statistics to go by.

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/24/2013 3:04:52 PM   
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What is the difference of the government intercepting all of the people's correspondence, without probable cause, and profiling? In both cases, the authorities "think" you might be guilty of something. At least in profiling, you have genuine FBI statistics to go by.


If nothing else the "o.j." trial showed us what a bunch of fucking morons the fbi is.

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/25/2013 1:09:05 AM   
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quote:

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As I have said before, this NSA program has been going on since Bush/Cheney. It came out then, and I will say with no possibility of being wrong, that it will happen again no matter which party gets in the whitehouse next.

Neither political party entirely trusts American citizens, I mean come on, we the people voted the power mad idiots into office, I mean if I were elected president, I wouldnt trust the people either.






The ability to archive EVERY conversation is not a relic of Bush/Cheney. Its pure Obama.
The documented tracking of government employes is not a relic of Bush Cheney.
Bugging AP and CBS is not a relic of bush Cheney.

But who cares, even if it were. This crap needs to stop and people need to go to jail.

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/25/2013 1:24:28 AM   
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Phydeaux
But who cares, even if it were. This crap needs to stop and people need to go to jail.

I am delighted to hear you squeal in protest as your personal rights are trashed by your Govt.

If you wish to avoid being seen as a hypocrite, it behoves you to extend the same array of rights that you claim for yourself to all people, especially in your case, to the Palestinians, whose oppression you have actively supported.

There is a term for one who complains loudly when their rights are infringed but has no problem when others' rights are trashed, or even worse supports the trashing of others' rights and it is a very ugly term.

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/25/2013 3:27:37 AM   
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There is a term for one who complains loudly when their rights are infringed but has no problem when others' rights are trashed, or even worse supports the trashing of others' rights and it is a very ugly term.


Git?

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RE: US Charges Snowden With Espionage - 6/25/2013 9:03:59 AM   
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There is a term for one who complains loudly when their rights are infringed but has no problem when others' rights are trashed, or even worse supports the trashing of others' rights and it is a very ugly term.


Git?

Oooohhh far far uglier than that Peon

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