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Dynamics of people types - 11/13/2004 10:39:54 AM

Kinkypupper

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I am not sure if this post will be a rant or a question or that I am looking for verification of my comments.. (probably the latter).
Admitted these comments are generalitys and there are a lot of people in the "gray" areas.
The comment in {} is more of a feeling of how that type would deal with a bad "habit" in this I will use Cigarette smoking.

Male Vanilla types...Physically Orientated. They will do nearly anything for sex. Get Bored easily. Have to be "bribed" to get something done they do not wish to do.{will only consider quitting once health proplems occur}

Female Vanilla types... Emotionally and home driven. Family Orientated. They expect a lot and demand a lot. If their home is threatened watch out. "stubborn" {will consider quitting for their family not for themselves}

Dom types... Some are so self centered the world is totally centered on them. THEY are "GOD". Many are "vanilla" wannabes who think its a quick road for SEX. Some have a "aura" around them that gives them respect (Military Ranger,Seal types). Some are less "DOM" and more "Dom" Respectful, Appreciative of the gift from a subbie, They are more then a "TOP" and know they are not a "sub", Giving to others and more considerate of others then themselves. Sometimes Shy and Quiet. But will only say something once.{quit- yea maybe i should but pass me the scotch and a good cigar- i am alive and wish to enjoy life on my terms}

sub types... A giving person They give because they WANT to. An individual with their own desires and wants and needs. The strongest of those is to be wanted. Once they have seen "subbie space" they want it and are very willing to do whatever they can for it and to be wanted. Easily hurt and easy to be taken advantage of. Many have a lot of what is called "baggage".{yes if you wish me to I will do so but i will need your help}

"Top" Someone who is dominant only sexually. They are not "told" anything in the rhelm of sexuality.

"Botton" Someone who is a sub only sexually. They want to be told what to do.

Slave... a subbie who has no limits, safewords, or control of their own self. They have given so much of "self" to their DOM that they will do anything at the slightest glance from them. Many people consider this person to be a servant, one with no rights or privelages. They only "serve" because they HAVE TO not because they wish to. This is the ultimate subbie. and yet the term "slave" has a bad history of abuse,and mistreatment. Can easily be confused with the "slave" in the ficticious world of "GOR". For some this is a acting role - and for a few of them they wake up into a reality that is not acting but real. {if you want me to stop or start i will do so not because i wish to but because YOU tell me to}

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/13/2004 11:18:43 AM

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Some use the "patch".

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/13/2004 11:21:45 AM

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this slave has been in the lifestyle for 13yrs now and been a slave the whole time. she does what she is told not because she HAS TO, but because she enjoys the satisifaction she derives from having made Master happy. she enjoys serving Master, or any other Dom/Domme for that matter because she loves to see others happy. NOT all slaves are as You described, "without safewords etc) this slave has safewords, limits, but some of those limits were placed by Master and others she had before meeting Him.

this slave serves because she not only WANTS to, but because she knows the rewards of serving Master, or any other Dom/Domme are far greater than if she were to not serve them. she enjoys seeing the smiles on Their faces when she has done well, the disappointment she sees on Their faces when she has done or said something wrong is far more a punishment than any physical punishment that she could be given. emotional punishment is the worst thing she has felt since being a slave.

this slave has had some "GOR" trainging and took away from it many good things, and some not so good things but she took all as a learning experience. she enjoys using the serving methods they use, some of kneeling positions are very erotic and she still uses some of them when with Master or any other Dom/Domme.

while she realizes You are posting Your views and does not take it as a personal attack on slaves, she felt she had to respond to Your post and tell You a bit about what it means to her being Master's slave and that she does serve because she WANTS to.

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/13/2004 4:05:45 PM

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H E Y!!!!!!!!

My * People * type is Missin in there!!!!!

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/14/2004 8:44:20 AM

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A few things struck me from your original post.

Firstly, in your descriptions, you chose to focus on a lot of negative traits that a group could have rather then some positive qualities. The simple fact that you associate the traits to a bad habit such a smoking is indicative that you simply want to look at the negative side of people. Personalities are crafted in a fine balance of traits that, when out of whack, can create a negative result.

Lets take generosity for example. Generosity can be a quality. However, when someone is generous to a fault, two things happen: 1) they are giving more then they should, denying their own self something they need and 2) often are resentful if they did not get the appropriate recognition for their generosity which leads to bitterness. This is only one example and there are many and they can go in many directions. That is because human personalities are very complex.

I very much appreciate the potential applications of archetypes and schematics. However, we have to be careful in overgeneralisations in applying them.

Secondly, as Dread pointed out, you did leave out a lot of personality types from your descriptions. That is the problem when you chose to map out archetypes and limit yourself to the obvious ones.

Thirdly, as cariad pointed out, you seem to have a bias in your descriptions. Now of course this is your opinion and I’m a big believer in voicing our opinions. However, I think that we grow as people when we can deconstruct our opinions and allow for a broader perspective of the world. Your summation of “Dynamics of people types” in 500+ words does not permit you that broader perspective. In fact, it simply reduces it.

If you want to read about archetypical psychology, there are interesting writings by Carl Jung, James Hillman, Thomas Moore et al.

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/14/2004 10:52:37 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyAngelika

However, I think that we grow as people when we can deconstruct our opinions and allow for a broader perspective of the world. Your summation of “Dynamics of people types” in 500+ words does not permit you that broader perspective. In fact, it simply reduces it.

If you want to read about archetypical psychology, there are interesting writings by Carl Jung, James Hillman, Thomas Moore et al.

Yet another sign of intelligent life in the BDSM universe.

And lets give props to the wymmyn: Marion Woodman, Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Carolyn Myss, etc.

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/14/2004 1:49:29 PM

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while rather new to this lifestyle i do not know that these stereotypes are set in stone. i seem to fit into more than one catagory here and i KNOW my Master does. are there many others who seem to vary greatly or do you all generally fit safely into one category?

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/14/2004 2:36:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD

H E Y!!!!!!!!

My * People * type is Missin in there!!!!!

Ma'am...perhaps your type was not listed because, after reading your posts, one can surely see that you are one of a kind *smiles*

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/15/2004 8:12:49 AM

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I know two navy seals who are both extremely submissive....hmm

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RE: Dynamics of people types - 11/15/2004 5:33:34 PM

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Many negative things here that I will not even address I just wish you luck in growing beyond your preconcieved views and to a more positive train of thought...Mike

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