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Anachronox -> Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 8:05:56 AM)

Have a question for anyone who is able to answer, but I guess Ill tell you a little of who I am. I am a male submissive, married for almost 2 years now, and about to turn 21. I have known my wife/Mistress for about 5 years. We played with s/m in the bedroom for a while, and when we moved out together it attempted to become a 24/7 D/s. There were problems at the time, and now that I am being forced to live a great distance away, it has of course been more difficult. She was lifestlye unaware until I introuduced her to it, and she has been very supportive and interested. Submission is what Ive always wanted, but I never feel right somehow. Part of it is that she has told me before that she does it because she knows it makes me happy, and while she enjoys it certainly, its not something thats really important to her, i.e., she would be just as happy with as without. So I always feel like from her end its more of an act than anything else, but I know she is trying. I also have issues with what I belive to be some form of bi-polar, although because of my career choice, it would be more destructive than not to seek any help. I have times where I am unable to control my emotions, feelings and actions. I get very upset without wanting to. Things I know I shouldnt be angry about, and I try to tell myself what I am doing is wrong, such as yelling over the phone or whatever, just being disrespectful. I have gone so far when I am upset as to say forget it, I dont want to be your pet anymore, never mind, etc..  I nkow from many posts alot of people would say to thier submissive to leave at a time like that, but we are and always will be lovers and best friends as well, so this is a problem we are trying to fix in a whole relationship context, such that this is not just a bdsm relationship I guess. I get very self-consious about myself at times like that, I feel as if there is something wrong with the way I am, that what I want cant co-exist with a normal relationship, and that I cant adress my feelings while still in a D/s relationship because it seems .. I dont know how to explain it. Like, if things are put into a D/s dynamic, its like its making it sexual, or that I am downplaying the issue.. dont really know a better way to say it. The recent posts about things like that made me decide to write a little bit, see if there was anyone else that had dealt with something similar. Maybe some advice on how to adress any of the issues. I want to be able to stay submissive, and feel more at ease with it and myself, but when I get angry I just cant help it, and the idea of my submission seems almost.. wrong somehow. I dunno.. hard to explain something when you dont even know what it is your trying to say.. anyone with insight would be very appreciated. 




slavejali -> RE: Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 8:20:17 AM)

Thinking about a response but wanted to ask you a question first...

What does "to be submissive" mean to you?




Mercnbeth -> RE: Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 8:39:46 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Anachronox
...Submission is what Ive always wanted, but I never feel right somehow...


like jali, this slave wonders how you define "submission"...




litleone8620 -> RE: Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 9:15:09 AM)

I know this sounds repetitive, but you need to figure out what submission means to you, and make sure that is what you really want.




KarbonCopy -> RE: Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 9:37:23 AM)

I can relate with how you feel.

I myself am a 20 year old submissive male, suffering from clinical depression.
A disorder that robbes a person of their ambition ( get up and do it mentaility ).

More often than not I find it more aggrivating to be asked to do something than it should be, especially for simple requests. I find myself losing control of my frustration, my anger, and it really bothers me.

I know I have given thought to what submission means to me, and I agree with myself whole heartedly. I hate the fact that I am not in control of the elements that make me a bad submissive, and it makes me feel like a failure which doesnt help the situation anyways.

True I'm not a sub that focuses on service, not that I stay away from it, but i'm not a gopher (go for) lol. I suppose I get enough of it at work being an apprentice Welder. It has been a struggle for me, I am currently in therapy for the depression and do hope that we can resolve something and I can remedy the damage I've done.




CrappyDom -> RE: Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 10:38:35 AM)

Screw figuring out your submission, deal with your anger issues.  It worked for me and it can work for you.  Interview therapists till you find one that is a good fit and work on those issues.  If privacy is a major concern, there are many kink friendly ones that work by phone.

Dossie Easton who wrote The Bottoming Book, The Ethical Slut, and others can eithe work with you by phone or recomend someone.  Trust me, it will make everything easier.




Sirandlittle1 -> RE: Trouble being submissive. (6/27/2006 5:05:33 PM)

Firstly, the bit about your career negates your availability to treatment. Crock of shit! You prevent treatment. Confidentiality clauses take care of the rest.
Self diagnosed anything screams drama queen to me. What you describe is anger management issue. Sure, that might be part of a BPAD, but it could equally mean your a little shit too. And either way, the outcome treatment protocol is the same. You learn to increase your tolerance to stress. There isnt a pill for that. Its a self learning thing. Do a google on dialectical behaviour therapy. OR visit borderline central. Im not saying its relevant as your problems are clinical, but techniques of how to not be a prick abound. And ive personally learned from them.
To identify your self as being belleagured with problems and NOT sort any out yourself? mmmm bit lazy love?
And, 'forget it, i dont want to be your pet anymore' yeah, weve all tried that one. ITs not Bi polar, its not borderline personality, its you, being a prick child. Just like it was me being a bitch child. For fucks sake love, own some of this stuff will ya? stop trying to fob it off into your relationship dynamic, or your 'illness'. Either do something about it, or shut the fuck up.
Your in a position of marriage. So if its a case of her Dominance doesnt fit with your submission. Your stuck. What for instance would happen if when in this child like manner you spat your dummy, and she said, fine. Its off until such time as i see some serious improvement in your manner? Why should she have to struggle to get you to submit? Most Dom's wouldnt put that amount of effort into you. They expect submission. It is a pre-requisite to D/s ya know?
And on top of all this, is just slipped in that your miles away from your loved one. That does strange things to any relationship. Not just a D/s one. Go easy on yourself.
Every thought you have is allowed in D/s. You are allowed to express everything that is bothering you. You have to do so in a respectful adult to adult manner that's all. Do you scream at your boss down the phone? Im guessing not. If that's the case, then it truly is a matter of you chosing to let rip, because you can get away with it!
So, if you have a mental health issue, or suspect you do, leave the diagnosis to a psychiatrist.
If you have a inner wanker with tourettes. Sort it out! I had to, and cant see why you cant.
little1





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