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BDSM and Weight


Im small
  6% (8)
Im medium
  11% (14)
Im large
  18% (22)
Im Bigger
  6% (8)
Im a Dominant who cares about size
  13% (16)
Im a Dominant who doesent care about size
  15% (18)
Im a sub or slave who cares about size
  7% (9)
Im a sub or slave who doesent care about size
  16% (20)
Im something other then a Dom/me sub or slave who cares about size
  0% (1)
Im not a Dom/me sub or slave and DONT care about size
  2% (3)


Total Votes : 119
(last vote on : 11/3/2009 5:54:51 PM)
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Level -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/3/2006 2:49:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: impishlilhellcat

I have to agree being over weight or heavy doesn't always mean that person doesn't care about their appearance. There have been some VERY beautiful plus size women and some very sexy plus size men. But allowing someone else your not involved with or who can't accept you for you and wants only to change you is not someone worth being with. My point was you shouldn't let someone dictate how you feel about your body unless you have gotten involved with someone and given them the chance to make that decision for you nor should that person if they care about the person they are involved with make some feel negative or badly about themselves.


Well said, impish. I would not want someone berating another, either, nor someone not in relationship with the person to try to control them, much less ridicule them. That's not cool in my book.




kc692 -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/3/2006 4:59:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD

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UtopianRanger
Bych....
I think your poll is hella funky and needs to be re-calibrated ; }
You would............
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kc692
I checked I'm a dominant who doesn't care about size because unless I read the OP wrong, if you cared about size was the only reason you put your size.
You are a very wise person and true to Your Alternate Lifestyle here as being the most important thing.





Im small




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Im medium




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Im large




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5% (4)

Im Bigger

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50 PEOPLE WHO TOOK THE POLL ON THE SITE FELT THAT SIZE WAS MORE IMPORTANT THEN THEIR BDSM OR ALTERNATE LIFESTYLE.  



Im a Dominant who cares about size




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Im a Dominant who doesent care about size




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Im a sub or slave who cares about size




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Im a sub or slave who doesent care about size




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12% (9)

Im something other then a Dom/me sub or slave who cares about size




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Im not a Dom/me sub or slave and DONT care about size




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2% (2)
quote:

21 PEOPLE FELT THAT BDSM WAS MORE IMPORTANT THEN THEIR OR OTHERS SIZE.
I took this poll because I was currious just how many people were present who put size like people in the vanilla world first on thier priority list even over their lifestyle which this site caters to.
Its plain by the poll taken that the majority of people polled do not come to this site to seek alternate lifestylers but people who fit their body perfect views. Says alot about the lifestylers of today here on collarme and where their priorities sit. (This poll does not represent the views of collarme. ~smiles~)


Thank you MistressDread, and amazingly, everyone is still answering by size; I incorrectly assumed they must have read the poll wrong that included the part "Only if you care about size include it".  I am amazed that so many even after explanation truly care about size.  I guess you learn something every day......

Edited to add:  Of course everyone has that right, I am just suprised the votes were with that being uppermost in most minds.




MasterRenegade77 -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/3/2006 7:29:11 PM)

Size is not uppermost in My mind but it is up there... I don't like large women this is My preference not a statement about them...
You can call Me shallow if you like but I only want an Average to Rubenesque slave...




rsmiths1951 -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/3/2006 7:38:53 PM)

large women hit harder and it is impossible to get out from under them.  The bigger mistress the better!




Evanesce -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/3/2006 7:43:53 PM)

Once upon a time, in a land far, far away, I was on the small end of "medium."  Now, however, I'm a bigger.  I do care about size (my own), and I keep trying to get myself back into what I consider a "reasonable" range, but I'm not going to obsess over it.  As for someone else's size... I don't care as long as they're healthy, but I've kind of got a thing for men over 6'2" and 250 lb.




MistressDREAD -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/6/2006 2:06:23 PM)

quote:

I am just suprised the votes were with that being uppermost in most minds.


Ive never been associated with Masters and Mistress's on any Alternate Lifestyle level who had size issues. All sought out those who they could enjoy their lifestyle perks and kinks and perversions with and many times this was with those who were as diverse in size as We were Kinksters. We always looked at Our Lifestyles as being the most important thing and issue We shared in common with.  If I were to be seeking perfection in body shapes tho I would first be sure that Mine was perfect as well befor I expected such out of anyone else. But since I love Lady Godiva more then I love perfection that is NEVER gonna be any issue for Me, I like em any shape and size as long as they please Me and serve Me as I see fit. What gets Me is so many Dominant MEN who are very far from perfect seeking out those trophys.... I just laugh and hope they have lots and LOZTS of Money. LOL




BitaTruble -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/6/2006 5:04:38 PM)

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I took this poll because I was currious just how many people were present who put size like people in the vanilla world first on thier priority list even over their lifestyle which this site caters to.

*Its plain by the poll taken that the majority of people polled do not come to this site to seek alternate lifestylers but people who fit their body perfect views.

*Says alot about the lifestylers of today here on collarme and where their priorities sit. (This poll does not represent the views of collarme. ~smiles~)


With all due respect, Mistress Dread, there are three flaws to your theory and a major misinterpretation of your result.

The first is - numbers only speak to those who answered the poll and can only be analyzed within very narrow parameters. Given the overall number of profiles on Collarme, the poll itself is a minute sampling. The vast majority on the other side probably weren't even aware of the poll so your target audience was, most likely, forum members.  

Best case scenario - the answer would be: Of those who answered this poll.. X are the results. It's not a reflection of Collarme, or even the Collarme forums specifically, only a reflection of those who voted.

If that were the only flaw to the theory, it wouldn't be so bad. Random samplings are often indicators of generalities ... however, there is more.

The second and most important of the flaws is that for the poll to have any validity, one must ensure the OP was actually 'read' before a vote was cast. When you open the page the poll is available and the OP must be scrolled to in order to be read so it's entirely possibly and most likely probable that there are is a fair % of people who did 'not' know there was a restriction in place (a closed set) so it is by their own perception they may have as to what constitutes small, medium, large, etc.as well as the admonition that if weight was not important, those categories should not be chosen as answers.  As such, and as there is no way of knowing how many posters actually failed to read or choose not to read the OP before answering.. it invalidates the results.

The third flaw is that even if the OP is read, it's unclear because it offers a choice but doesn't define the choices. You said, 'if size is what's important to you, then state your size' and if 'role and size is important to you then choose the sentence which best fits you.' This was the last line of the OP. It's entirely possible that only the first line "Id like to take a poll here on Collarme of its members and what size they present to the forum" and the size definitions were read. That last line may have been entirely missed all together. The problem is, you just don't know. I'll get to that first line in a moment, because it, of all things, are what throw your interpretation of the results completely out the window.

You didn't define 'role' and it's important that it be defined .. here's why.

For many, their chosen lifestyle is not a 'role' and they could not or would not view it as such .. rather, it's who they are, so they may automatically default to choose size because to choose sentence would mean they invalidate themselves. Ostensibly, such a person would probably be better off not answering the poll at all.. but given that it's impossible to determine if this scenario took place, again, it invalidates the results.

The problem is, you provided a 'closed set' but have no control to ensure it remained closed.

Now, to the first line - which does not invalidate the poll itself, that was done by other means.. but rather, completely throws your interpretation of the results out the window.

"Id like to take a poll here on Collarme of its members and what size they present to the forum." This sentence is specifically requesting that the member post their OWN size, NOT the size of those whom they may be seeking.

In effect, this poll says absolutely nothing about the average Collarme member or their motivations for being on Collarme in the first place and even if they did, your interpretation of the results is very far removed from what the poll would actually say were it even valid.

With regards,

Celeste - who probably shouldn't have taken so many math classes

*Bold and italic in quote is mine to reference the results interpretation




reticence -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/6/2006 5:31:57 PM)

Celeste,

If I may, I would like to add that the poll is presumptive that the "size" that matters is a smaller size.  What if  a person said size matters, but their preference is a larger person?  I don't think that is adequately addressed in the poll.




MistressDREAD -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/7/2006 6:36:09 AM)

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there are three flaws to your theory
I dident present any theorys hence I cannot have any flaws to such. And besides
its not My flaws bita but the flaws of those polled and posted.
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one must ensure

I never stated My statistics were set in stone, and theres a reason the polls go with random stupidity bita, youve shown yours....suckerrrrrr.

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major misinterpretation of your result.  
 My interpretations to My poll is Mine. you have no say in how I think, but honest try.  
 




BitaTruble -> RE: BDSM and Weight (7/7/2006 9:26:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MistressDREAD

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there are three flaws to your theory
I dident present any theorys hence I cannot have any flaws to such. And besides
its not My flaws bita but the flaws of those polled and posted.
quote:

one must ensure

I never stated My statistics were set in stone, and theres a reason the polls go with random stupidity bita, youve shown yours....suckerrrrrr.

quote:

major misinterpretation of your result.  
 My interpretations to My poll is Mine. you have no say in how I think, but honest try.  
 


I attacked the science of the poll which is flawed and hence the conclusion you drew from it and in turn you attacked me. 

I have never, once, shown you disrespect and I am hurt by your attack.

Good bye, Dread.


Celestee




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