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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/1/2013 7:03:50 AM   
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I hate fundamentalism of any stripe, be it religious or secular.

I hate that arrogant, obnoxious notion that "I know the truth and must force others to conform."

Islam, Christianity, Fascism, Communism, etc, etc, etc. It is all bullshit. It is all just the surface details of the real problem: narcissistic personalities that think their vision of how the world should be is the only one and are willing to lie, cheat, steal and even kill to bring that vision about. It is, after all, in the service of a greater good... the one and only truth.



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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/1/2013 8:25:36 AM   
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These are 0bama0s allies

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And the teabaggers having none whatsoever, whatchagonnado, yanno?

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/1/2013 12:46:45 PM   
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These are 0bama0s allies

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And the teabaggers having none whatsoever, whatchagonnado, yanno?



Tail, there you go again with that "Teabagger" stuff. Do you check under the bed each morning to make sure there's none hiding there? Oh, and make sure to check in the back seat and trunk of the car too!
We don't want them trying to behead you, do we?
Oh wait a minute, it's not the Teabaggers who do the beheadings is it?
(In my best "Church Lady" voice) "Now Ronald,.....I wonnnnder who that could be who's responsable for all those beheadings......."

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/1/2013 12:54:41 PM   
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Is it you? You don't have much in the way of germaine. What with Reagan being asshole buddies with the likes of Iranians, Saddam, Noriega, and the contras.......................


And W and big shrub licking on the ass of Bin Laden..........



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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/1/2013 8:40:14 PM   
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I don't think this article needs any comment.

http://www.7rangers.com/2013/06/woman-in-syria-killed-for-being-caught.html

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 4:05:07 AM   
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I don't think this article needs any comment.

http://www.7rangers.com/2013/06/woman-in-syria-killed-for-being-caught.html


Nor does your racist source.





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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 9:06:59 AM   
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Difference is, Jesus told Peter to sheath his sword, where mohammed told his followers to draw swords.
That's the essence of the difference between islam and christianity.
Plain and simple.


Got a cite for that? Any line of the Koran promoting violence will do.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 10:27:57 AM   
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34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

There you have it. Matthew 10 of the Koran. (King James version, I believe)

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 1:35:39 PM   
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Difference is, Jesus told Peter to sheath his sword, where mohammed told his followers to draw swords.
That's the essence of the difference between islam and christianity.
Plain and simple.


Got a cite for that? Any line of the Koran promoting violence will do.

Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."


Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 1:46:20 PM   
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The sword of truth,
not the sword of dominion and submission.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 1:49:49 PM   
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Ja, bullshit. your 2:191:193 is out of context, include 2:190 at least, and you have like problems with your others.



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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 2:47:24 PM   
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Ja, bullshit. your 2:191:193 is out of context, include 2:190 at least, and you have like problems with your others.



Okay provide the correct translation.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 2:52:06 PM   
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I just gave it to you, but enough of religion it is a pacifier of the feeble minded.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 3:05:03 PM   
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I just gave it to you, but enough of religion it is a pacifier of the feeble minded.

[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.

Count your blessings and curses.
The koran like the torah speak too much of war.
Jesus speaks more of peace.
Want to test that?

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 4:00:55 PM   
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Syrian rebels recently beheaded a Catholic priest.
Our official policy should always be to encourage Muslims to kill Muslims by arming both sides of the conflict.
I hate Islam.
Story here


I hate dumb asses.

We should never condone killing.


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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 5:01:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

I hate fundamentalism of any stripe, be it religious or secular.

I hate that arrogant, obnoxious notion that "I know the truth and must force others to conform."

Islam, Christianity, Fascism, Communism, etc, etc, etc. It is all bullshit. It is all just the surface details of the real problem: narcissistic personalities that think their vision of how the world should be is the only one and are willing to lie, cheat, steal and even kill to bring that vision about. It is, after all, in the service of a greater good... the one and only truth.



I hate religion as several of our founders did.

Also, define secular fundamentalism. I think you will find no such thing.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/2/2013 9:44:41 PM   
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[2:190] You may fight in the cause of GOD against those who attack you, but do not aggress. GOD does not love the aggressors.


«Don't pick a fight, but defend yourself decisively.»

That's what you submit as the Qu'ran promoting violence?

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/3/2013 6:34:39 AM   
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I hate religion as several of our founders did.

Also, define secular fundamentalism. I think you will find no such thing.


Since I regard fundamentalism as a "thought" process that always considers itself correct (in other words, "my ideology is never wrong") it could be argued that all fundamentalism is religious in nature since it is based upon belief rather than facts.

However, by secular fundamentalism I mean any such "thinking" that is not based upon a known or established religion such as Christianity or Islam. I regard communism and some forms of fascism to be examples of a secular fundamentalism.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/3/2013 6:53:13 AM   
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34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.
35 For I have come to turn

“‘a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
36 a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

There you have it. Matthew 10 of the Koran. (King James version, I believe)

quote:

Matthew 10


Actually that was the bible, but you already knew that. Funny how you left out the beginning of that chapter. But that part talks about tolerance and I know you wouldn't want that.

10 And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.

2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;

3 Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;

4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.

5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

9 Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

10 Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

11 And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.

12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.

13 And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

23 But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

24 The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.

25 It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?

26 Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.

27 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.

28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

30 But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.

31 Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.

32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

40 He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me.

41 He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.

42 And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the name of a disciple, verily I say unto you, he shall in no wise lose his reward.

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RE: These are 0bama0s allies - 7/3/2013 6:58:39 AM   
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Yeah, the point being nothing, religion for the feeble minded, if I wanted to show the death and destruction of christians I would quote nearly all the old testament, a few of the new testament, and point out the crusades, and other shit.

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