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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 1:33:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		eeerrrmm.....removing ropes, clothing, etc...could be considered tampering with evidence and basically screwing up an investigation. My thoughts would be to leave everything as is. In the end it could actually help your case instead of harm it. Otherwise if it came up that you died while being bound, the court is going to ask why you felt the need to cover it up by cleaning it all up.

I would not go to a fetish club that would remove "questionable clothing" because they are afraid of the reprisals. It says to me they are more fearful for the lawsuits than for my physical emergency.


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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 1:52:27 PM   
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eeerrrmm.....removing ropes, clothing, etc...could be considered tampering with evidence and basically screwing up an investigation. My thoughts would be to leave everything as is. In the end it could actually help your case instead of harm it. Otherwise if it came up that you died while being bound, the court is going to ask why you felt the need to cover it up by cleaning it all up.

I would not go to a fetish club that would remove "questionable clothing" because they are afraid of the reprisals. It says to me they are more fearful for the lawsuits than for my physical emergency.



This is most definitely tampering, but it happens more often than not. Mostly by family members finding loved ones in none to flattering condition post mortem. As for some of the risky practices we do considered manslaughter if it results in death, yep. If something a person does directly or indirectly causes a person's death, it it at the minimum criminal negligence, worst manslaughter (read how good a lawyer you get). But if the death had nothing to do with the other person, then an autopsy would show that. And an autopsy is performed is almost all death cases to find cause. Would a dominant get suspicion is the police found a corpse tied spread-eagled and ball-gagged to the bed naked with a 10 inch dildo still on inside her, god yes. Would he be charged with murder after the autopsy found she had a congenital heart defect that caused a stroke? Yeah probably, because it contributed. But if they found same sub dead peacefully in the bed, with week old cane marks, not a chance.

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 2:01:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		meh...I have a sister who had kinky sex with her husband and he died of a heart attack right then and there. It was never questioned. She left him where he was just as he was. It was sex. No one cared about anything else. He just died of a heart attack. Did the sex maybe contribute? Possibly, probably. But she sure as hell wasn't questioned or went to jail. He had a heart attack. Simple as that.


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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 2:26:54 PM   
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meh...I have a sister who had kinky sex with her husband and he died of a heart attack right then and there. It was never questioned. She left him where he was just as he was. It was sex. No one cared about anything else. He just died of a heart attack. Did the sex maybe contribute? Possibly, probably. But she sure as hell wasn't questioned or went to jail. He had a heart attack. Simple as that.


WTF?

How the hell didn't I know anything of this lil tidbit?

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 2:48:02 PM   
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meh...I have a sister who had kinky sex with her husband and he died of a heart attack right then and there. It was never questioned. She left him where he was just as he was. It was sex. No one cared about anything else. He just died of a heart attack. Did the sex maybe contribute? Possibly, probably. But she sure as hell wasn't questioned or went to jail. He had a heart attack. Simple as that.


WTF?

How the hell didn't I know anything of this lil tidbit?



Your mind has blocked it out. Mine is still trying like hell to block it out!

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 3:15:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		My brother knows where the toys and videos are. He can also explain the bruises and litigature marks if need be. I can do the same for him. He also knows what to say to the kids if somehow they get involved. But since I've mellowed out over the years I'm less worried. Less marks on wife and I, restraints less secure so we can get to the kids ASAP if they need us.

Our thing is more mental now. So it's easier to deal with than it was when my bro and I first got serious about BDSM. I will do same for my bro as well. We always joke that if it goes bad for him I can always say I built and tested all his furniture. Lol

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 7:11:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not my call, theirs. As I said, the plan went through a practicing attorney, so I'm pretty sure they took that into account. And as I said, the clientele had connections and had no intention of suffering grief if someone kicked it while they were getting their ya-ya's out. The notable exceptions were death on the premises and spinal-cord injuries, and the actual 'scene' area wasn't to be touched. Everything else was to be sanitized as much as possible, though.

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/5/2013 7:14:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm in agreement with above. I would want that for protection of Arturas and any place W/we played.

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/11/2013 11:26:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I thought about this before...ultimately I don't care since I would be dead anyways. BUT, if you happen to have a close friend, you can write in your will to have them take the boxes marked 'x' or whatever your storage situation is.

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/12/2013 8:07:34 AM   
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My biggest worry is that I would die in bliss of my marks, yet Arturas could end up in jail , at least for questioning during his time of grieve. Thinking its time for legal contracts to be drawn.


If you die as a result of his negligence or malice, no contract will protect him. One cannot consent to an illegal act.

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/12/2013 9:06:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		I would imagine that just by pulling up an archived link to this thread could prove beneficial in establishing that you both were consenting to the activities that led to an untimely demise.

Hell, you could even play this one, and I don't believe I'm typing this with a straight face now, but you can always use "50 Shades" as a defense. "...Bloo hoo hoo, we were just trying to do things out of that darn book, and this happened, bloo hoo hoo..."

I'll go away now....

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RE: What if/ in the event of.... - 7/15/2013 8:17:23 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		i personally do not care who knows I have sex toys, or dirty mags, and my mom and i have even made jokes about porno's she's come across that she needs to read some dirty mags to get some ideas to bring to her relationship. So no.

I do not have any plans in place to try to pick up and hide the evidence.
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On the flip side to bondage/ confinement preparedness, In the event of...
( this was taken from another site)
Does anyone have a protocol in place, in the event of an untimely death? Do you have someone you trust...to shut down your account, disperse of your toys? Etc... I know we would all like to think we will live to an age, where we may outlive our kinks...but things can happen, that may be unexpected. What if you have children or parents, who may not understand, and be shamed to discover your kinks? Or do you just say, screw it. I'm dead, why should I care.....




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Does anyone have a protocol in place, in th


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