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Phydeaux -> RE: Department of Justice (7/11/2013 8:57:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

No taz,

Because the JW writer (as well as others quoted) are trying to say the uneven administration of justice continues. The CRS was formed to mediate disputes not support protests. Not organize police for a 40 mile escort. Not teach protesters how to manage crowds. Not to apply political pressure to get the police chief to resign.




What makes anyone believe they were there to support protests? When they go to the RNC primaries are they there to teach the GOP how to manage crowds, there to insist and pressure the RNC to resign?

Or did no one realize this was the Community Relations Service that was sent?

Some secret, huh?

The Community Relations Service is the Department's "peacemaker" for community conflicts and tensions arising from differences of race, color, and national origin. Created by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, CRS is the only Federal agency dedicated to assist State and local units of government, private and public organizations, and community groups with preventing and resolving racial and ethnic tensions, incidents, and civil disorders, and in restoring racial stability and harmony.

With passage of the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act, CRS also works with communities to employ strategies to prevent and respond to alleged violent hate crimes committed on the basis of actual or perceived race, color, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion or disability. CRS facilitates the development of viable, mutual understandings and agreements as alternatives to coercion, violence, or litigation. It also assists communities in developing local mechanisms, conducting training, and other proactive measures to prevent racial/ethnic tension and violent hate crimes committed on the basis of actual or perceived race, color, national origin, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, religion, or disability. CRS does not take sides among disputing parties and, in promoting the principles and ideals of non-discrimination, applies skills that allow parties to come to their own agreement. In performing this mission, CRS deploys highly skilled professional conciliators, who are able to assist people of diverse backgrounds.


http://www.justice.gov/crs/



Mostly I guess because the CRS staff submitted expense reports that said they were supporting the protests?




tazzygirl -> RE: Department of Justice (7/11/2013 9:14:11 PM)

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Mostly I guess because the CRS staff submitted expense reports that said they were supporting the protests?


The first

March 25 – 28, 2012, CRS spent $1,142.84 “in Sanford, FL to work marches, demonstrations, and rallies related to the shooting and death of an African-American teen by a neighborhood watch captain.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/151071221/More-Working-Rallies-on-MAR-25

What? Because they are following their own mission statement someone has twisted it to be more than it is. I see them fulfilling their role, not supporting either side of the issue.

Right wing kooks have long been bitching about the CRS, its not a secret team....

http://www.therightplanet.com/2012/08/doj-community-relations-service-crs-assisting-occupyanarchist-activists-at-rnc-convention/

Breitbart anyone?

49 years this branch has been in service.

http://www.justice.gov/archive/crs/pubs/fy2004/annualreport2004.pdf

Secret? Hardly.




mnottertail -> RE: Department of Justice (7/12/2013 6:30:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, not credible in its nutsuckerisms. Who is the author of this article? What are the actual documents?

Impugning and innuendo, no facts or credible citations. Nuitsuckerism. Boortz and Breitbart style asswipe at this point.

Receipts and travel vouchers



Therefore, having evidence of the hotel bill we know Nixon was the man on the grassy knoll in Dallas. It has to be, it is causal to the asswipe. As I said, asswipe, no credible citations. Pure Nutsuckerism, devoid of fact. Someone goes to arbitrate in a tense situation, as is their mission, and they are organizing bomb throwing skirmishes against the Sanford Police Department building....ASSWIPE. One reciept a nutsuckerism makes, but not a reality.




Edwynn -> RE: Department of Justice (7/12/2013 7:12:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phydeaux

What do you think about the latest FOIA request that says the justice department spents thousands of dollars supporting protests against zimmerman. (including organizing a police escort for a 40 mile trek from delray to sanford...)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/press-room/press-releases/documents-obtained-by-judicial-watch-detail-role-of-justice-department-in-organizing-trayvon-martin-protests/




Having read through the citation and your posts, that's the only thing I see as 'evidence' that DOJ is actively "supporting" protests for sole purpose of agitating against Dr. Z (aka 'Mr. Neighborhood').

OTOH, sane people read the actual evidence as CRS mediation and 'guidance' to a large group with a large gripe, so as to keep things within the bounds of constitutional right to assemble to address grievances, with out such process turning into a violent affair. Somewhat like the original congressional mandate as assigned to the CRS in the first place.

Spooky.


Uncanny resemblance.


Etc.









popeye1250 -> RE: Department of Justice (7/14/2013 1:41:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Maybe if the lying scum at judicial watch weren't lying through their teeth this story would have some legs.

The CRS is a small team of lawyers that go out to mediate between protesters and local officials. The team's job is to make sure the protests don't become violent and to make sure local authorities respect the rights of the protesters. The FOIA request that judicial watch is lying about are, based on their own statements about those documents, nothing but this routine behavior.



"Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
One thing, did those govt. dweebs have any interaction with the pro-Zimmerman protesters?
Oh, and how is a "small team of lawyers" going to prevent *any* type of,..."violence" against anyone?
They couldn't stop a fight in a parking lot between two jealous ex's! I can almost garauntee that they wearn't armed.
I guess "Washington".... "assumes".... that people are going to listen to them.
What the hell good is a paper pusher from Washington going to do? I can just see them at the outbreak of a riot; "Hey, hey, you fellows can't do that!" "No throwing molotov cocktails!" "It's right here under Section 18 , Paragraph 4, sub section 33!!!"




Politesub53 -> RE: Department of Justice (7/14/2013 5:13:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, not credible in its nutsuckerisms. Who is the author of this article? What are the actual documents?

Impugning and innuendo, no facts or credible citations. Nuitsuckerism. Boortz and Breitbart style asswipe at this point.



Ron me old mucker........ Is Nuitsuckerism about Thelema or nutsucking at night ? ..... Even Moonie dont make them Juvenal kind of typos.

~Alistair




DomKen -> RE: Department of Justice (7/14/2013 5:47:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Maybe if the lying scum at judicial watch weren't lying through their teeth this story would have some legs.

The CRS is a small team of lawyers that go out to mediate between protesters and local officials. The team's job is to make sure the protests don't become violent and to make sure local authorities respect the rights of the protesters. The FOIA request that judicial watch is lying about are, based on their own statements about those documents, nothing but this routine behavior.



"Hi, I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
One thing, did those govt. dweebs have any interaction with the pro-Zimmerman protesters?
Oh, and how is a "small team of lawyers" going to prevent *any* type of,..."violence" against anyone?
They couldn't stop a fight in a parking lot between two jealous ex's! I can almost garauntee that they wearn't armed.
I guess "Washington".... "assumes".... that people are going to listen to them.
What the hell good is a paper pusher from Washington going to do? I can just see them at the outbreak of a riot; "Hey, hey, you fellows can't do that!" "No throwing molotov cocktails!" "It's right here under Section 18 , Paragraph 4, sub section 33!!!"

In the real world, not the paranoid fantasy you think is real, negotiation and mutual respect between the police and protesters is usually enough to prevent violence. That is what the CRS does and they do it very well.




tazzygirl -> RE: Department of Justice (7/14/2013 5:52:39 PM)

Its more fun for "some" to insist its a left wing "secret organization" conspiracy engineered 49 years ago by Obama.




Real0ne -> RE: Department of Justice (7/14/2013 8:59:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen
In the real world, not the paranoid fantasy you think is real, negotiation and mutual respect between the police and protesters is usually enough to prevent violence. That is what the CRS does and they do it very well.



police negotiate? Like when they pepper sprayed ows while they were terrorizing the place by sitting on the curb? do tell




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