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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/15/2013 4:23:04 PM   
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Well the key words here are 'involuntary servitude.' Does that not legally imply that there must be such a thing as 'voluntary servitude' for which many-a-case...could be made ?

Well, technically, joining the military could be considered voluntary servitude.

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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/15/2013 5:06:03 PM   
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Well the key words here are 'involuntary servitude.' Does that not legally imply that there must be such a thing as 'voluntary servitude' for which many-a-case...could be made ?

Pretty much any job is voluntary servitude.

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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/16/2013 2:09:34 AM   
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Well the key words here are 'involuntary servitude.' Does that not legally imply that there must be such a thing as 'voluntary servitude' for which many-a-case...could be made ?

Well, technically, joining the military could be considered voluntary servitude.

It is and the only employer that can force you to sign away any of your constitutional rights. The draft was involuntary servitude...to the state.

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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/16/2013 2:12:52 AM   
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Well the key words here are 'involuntary servitude.' Does that not legally imply that there must be such a thing as 'voluntary servitude' for which many-a-case...could be made ?

Pretty much any job is voluntary servitude.

Yep, but that requires remuneration hence the voluntary aspect except most often that to a charity. This would also include voluntary slave-hood which many would describe as a job anyway.

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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/16/2013 4:36:34 AM   
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Well the key words here are 'involuntary servitude.' Does that not legally imply that there must be such a thing as 'voluntary servitude' for which many-a-case...could be made ?

Pretty much any job is voluntary servitude.

Yep, but that requires remuneration hence the voluntary aspect except most often that to a charity. This would also include voluntary slave-hood which many would describe as a job anyway.

The military can send you to certain death that makes it different from any other job.

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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/16/2013 7:57:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

Well the key words here are 'involuntary servitude.' Does that not legally imply that there must be such a thing as 'voluntary servitude' for which many-a-case...could be made ?

Well, technically, joining the military could be considered voluntary servitude.

It is and the only employer that can force you to sign away any of your constitutional rights. The draft was involuntary servitude...to the state.

Understood, but I enlisted in '83. Funny thing, I didn't register with Selective Service when I got the postcard on my 18th because by then I'd already gone through Basic. Didn't think I needed to, but I was wrong. Got a nassssty letter from them and ordered to appear in court. Showed it to my section chief, he showed it to the Top, and long story short, I appeared in court in Class A's with my battalion XO. The judge dismissed the case on the spot after I filled out the little postcard and handed it to the bailiff. Funny how things work.

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RE: Technically, the 13th Amendment does NOT ban slavery - 7/16/2013 5:21:00 PM   
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how about this job?

U.S. NATIONAL DEBT CLOCK

The Outstanding Public Debt as of 16 Jul 2013 at 11:53:02 PM GMT is:
$ 1 6 , 7 4 0 , 7 0 4 , 6 5 6 , 1 9 8 . 0 9

The estimated population of the United States is 316,262,687
so each citizen's share of this debt is $52,932.91.

See you all got to vote on putting your house up for the national debt didnt you?

Just like you all got to vote on all those volumes upon volumes of amendments didnt you?

Yep thats what freedom is all about, VOTING how you want the country to conduct itself.

So why did you "citizens" of the united states vote for this shit anyway?

Spark of insanity?





So hows that king slave relationship workin for ya "serfs"?

So if ohaha or dubya came up to you all one day and said hey nutsuckers I just mortgaged your property as a security to pay off the debt and you will forever pay taxes and if you dont we are gonna chase you out of your home and give your house to someone who will pay out bills for us.

You would cheer them on RIGHT?????

Oh but then you would remember your feudal relationship of allegiance to the sovereign, that you are only a tenant serf on the sovereigns land, proven by your "in=fee" [feod] land title, tuck your tail between your legs and go home and behave like good kids should.

Of course there are other people who look at is differently



No vote no say, oh wait, thats right representards have crystal balls and consult their gurus how we want them to vote! hua!


Taxation without representation! Imagine that, just change a few words and america goes cognitively dissonant! LMAO

which is a bit more accurate but no point sweating the small stuff?



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