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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 12:38:04 PM   
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There wasnt much point making a book on who would use this story as a tool to bash multiculturalism in general.





Politesub,....ok, so.....you see nothing wrong here?
How about "honor killings?
"Stonings?"
You "cool" with those too?


For the umpteenth time no I am not "cool" with any of that shit either, Just as I am not "cool" with you trying to equate all Muslims as to have the same mindset.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 12:40:15 PM   
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Politesub,....ok, so.....you see nothing wrong here?
How about "honor killings?
"Stonings?"
You "cool" with those too?

I'm going to type this really, really slowly and maybe it'll help.

You.

Don't.

Get.

It.

But here, lemme help. Multiculturalism is a good thing. Being a narrow-minded parochial asshat is a bad thing. Raping women is also a bad thing.

Did that sort it out for you?



Thanks for making it clear Jeff. Its ironic that someone in the US doesnt get the idea multiculturalism works. It`s as if one day the whole nation woke up and decided there was an American culture.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 12:44:03 PM   
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Jeffbc, are you a leftist?

No. I'm not anyone's sock puppet. I just believe in reality.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 1:00:19 PM   
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There wasnt much point making a book on who would use this story as a tool to bash multiculturalism in general.


God damn right. There is a reason there are borders. There is a reason for alot of things, and they are tearing it down.

Muslims don't adapt their laws to us ? Well in the UK not too long ago a Muslim lured a 13 year old online and had sex with her, which is statutory rape. Any Brit would be in prison for it but the judge let him off BECAUSE he is Muslim. This is EXACTLY the same kind of shit that led to the formation of the KKK. Bad judges.

If you want to live with Italians, go to Italy, if you want to live with Canadians, go to Canada. And live AS them as well. Familiarize yourself with their laws and customs and follow them rather than trying to change them. Hispanics need bilingual everything, bullshit. Some people wanted to speak French on Canada, well they became separatists which is fine and good. Why not bitch about their disregard of the holy grail of liberals - multiculturalism. The melting pot. I DO NOT WANT TO MELT, sorry.

If people do not get pissed at each other, eventually multiculturalism dies because after a time everyone is THE SAME. They assimilate in a generation or three. Where the fuck is multiculturalism when everybody is THE SAME ? I appreciate cultural differences. I LIKE partying with people different than I sometimes. Too much assimilation destroys that possibility.

And I am well aware that in the really good countries they are multilingual but that is something disfferent, they do usually at least still have a national language. (unlike the US, fucking government apparently NEVER did its job right) Those who are not fluent in it are inferior in that society. You deal with it or learn the language, they do not accomodate you. Many places that have tourism do accomodate US tourists, but that is a far cry from living and working there.

She brought it upon herself because the REASON Muslim women must keep covered is because Muslim males HAVE NO FUCKING SELF CONTROL. What do you call those without self control ?

She should have known about that, or stayed the fuck home. (why the fuck would ANYONE want to leave Norway ?)

T

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 1:25:20 PM   
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God damn right. There is a reason there are borders. There is a reason for alot of things, and they are tearing it down.

Muslims don't adapt their laws to us ?

Well in the UK not too long ago a Muslim lured a 13 year old online and had sex with her, which is statutory rape. Any Brit would be in prison for it but the judge let him off BECAUSE he is Muslim.

This is EXACTLY the same kind of shit that led to the formation of the KKK. Bad judges.

T



Think you may have overlooked an important point.

In a land of minimal government both the muslim and the brit had their own set of rights, obviously nondisclosed to each other. In this case neither muslim nor uk law would apply to both.

Any/all interaction with others creates fluid contracts between them. As I am sure you know that most actions considered crimes are really nothing more than pissing off some neighbor. In other words corporate by-laws of the realm.

Why should the muslim give up his heritage when in Britain? Does queenie become the same status as janitor in the US? Not for a NY second. Then why would the muslim have to or vice versa.

I do not know the case, however, in order to preserve both government as an institution and presumably the rights of the individual the state would need to recognize both based on either treaties or in equity. Treaties should be abolished as well and everything should be adjudicated in terms of the individuals involved based on their claims.

Anything else is to inflict government religion upon others and the destruction of all culture in the creation of statist societies as we have now.

We live in the land of computers today and anyone can file and put a declaration of rights in a federal folder.

Then sort out the contracts, trusts, and rights considering both in court.

As long as it does not become corrupt which unfortunately we know it will.




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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 1:32:00 PM   
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Funny thing though, all those differant ..."cultures" *always* seem to want to come to *western countries* don't they oh, and impose their *cultures* on us.


How odd. Who, exactly, is "imposing their culture on ours"?


The most obvious?

Government; Exhibit A: You will be punished if you do not agree with the holocaust.

That is the governments religion and culture, being forced upon those countries as law, the opinion police.

Here it is the courts, they are the opinion police, theirs count, ours do not, because we do not wear a blck robe and sit at a bench higher than everyone else.





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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 1:45:59 PM   
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Jeffbc, are you a leftist?

No. I'm not anyone's sock puppet. I just believe in reality.



Usually people who make referance to "Rush Limbaugh" are closely aligned with leftists.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 1:48:37 PM   
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Politesub,....ok, so.....you see nothing wrong here?
How about "honor killings?
"Stonings?"
You "cool" with those too?

I'm going to type this really, really slowly and maybe it'll help.

You.

Don't.

Get.

It.

But here, lemme help. Multiculturalism is a good thing. Being a narrow-minded parochial asshat is a bad thing. Raping women is also a bad thing.

Did that sort it out for you?



Thanks for making it clear Jeff. Its ironic that someone in the US doesnt get the idea multiculturalism works. It`s as if one day the whole nation woke up and decided there was an American culture.



It's not working very well in Holland, Denmark and Sweden is it?
Oh, nor for English soldiers stationed in London.
"Multiculturalism works?"
Polite, that's laughable, just laughable!

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 1:59:28 PM   
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Jeffbc, now "multi-culturalism" is a..."good" thing?
Who told you that? College professor perhaps?


It might be helpful if the op had a clue as to what the fuck "multiculturalism" is.
It might be helpful if the op knew that "multiculturalism" is not one of the fundamental cultural building blocks of dubai
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So,...western countries are expected to "yield" to other cultures and we're supposed to like that? That's a "good" thing?


That would be the op's unsubstantiated asanine peurile opinion.
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Funny thing though, all those differant ..."cultures" *always* seem to want to come to *western countries* don't they oh, and impose their *cultures* on us.


Which part of the u.s. has instituted shira law?
You seem to be complaining about a non issue...why?
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They want The West to be "multi-cultural" but *THEY* don't want to be "multi-cultural."


Would you happen to have any validation for this moronic tripe?
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Saying that "multi-culturalism" is a "good" thing is like saying that "political correctness" is a good thing



Tht would be a moronic opinion held only by the op.

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when we know that p.c. is an evil thing.


If that is so then why are you always trying to get me to be "pc"?


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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:02:08 PM   
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It's not working very well in Holland, Denmark and Sweden is it?
Oh, nor for English soldiers stationed in London.
"Multiculturalism works?"
Polite, that's laughable, just laughable!


Any validation for this moronic bullshit?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:07:36 PM   
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It's not working very well in Holland, Denmark and Sweden is it?
Oh, nor for English soldiers stationed in London.
"Multiculturalism works?"
Polite, that's laughable, just laughable!


Any validation for this moronic bullshit?



Thompson,.....~you're getting sleepy~....

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:33:31 PM   
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Well in the UK not too long ago a Muslim lured a 13 year old online and had sex with her, which is statutory rape. Any Brit would be in prison for it but the judge let him off BECAUSE he is Muslim.


Got a link for that, Termy?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:37:40 PM   
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But here, lemme help. Multiculturalism is a good thing.

I'm confused about one thing, Who ever claimed Dubai was multicultural?






Jeffbc, now "multi-culturalism" is a..."good" thing?
Who told you that? College professor perhaps?
So,...western countries are expected to "yield" to other cultures and we're supposed to like that? That's a "good" thing?
Funny thing though, all those differant ..."cultures" *always* seem to want to come to *western countries* don't they oh, and impose their *cultures* on us.
They want The West to be "multi-cultural" but *THEY* don't want to be "multi-cultural."
Saying that "multi-culturalism" is a "good" thing is like saying that "political correctness" is a good thing when we know that p.c. is an evil thing.

Multiculturalism does not mean yielding to some other culture. It means accepting the beliefs and practices of others and sharing in the good aspects of those cultures. It is pretty much the definition of America.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:41:10 PM   
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Well in the UK not too long ago a Muslim lured a 13 year old online and had sex with her, which is statutory rape. Any Brit would be in prison for it but the judge let him off BECAUSE he is Muslim.


Got a link for that, Termy?

Surely you didn't just ask termy to back up one of his wild ass claims?

I did some googling and the only thing that comes up is some insanity from the BNP.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:54:39 PM   
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But here, lemme help. Multiculturalism is a good thing.

I'm confused about one thing, Who ever claimed Dubai was multicultural?






Jeffbc, now "multi-culturalism" is a..."good" thing?
Who told you that? College professor perhaps?
So,...western countries are expected to "yield" to other cultures and we're supposed to like that? That's a "good" thing?
Funny thing though, all those differant ..."cultures" *always* seem to want to come to *western countries* don't they oh, and impose their *cultures* on us.
They want The West to be "multi-cultural" but *THEY* don't want to be "multi-cultural."
Saying that "multi-culturalism" is a "good" thing is like saying that "political correctness" is a good thing when we know that p.c. is an evil thing.

Multiculturalism does not mean yielding to some other culture. It means accepting the beliefs and practices of others and sharing in the good aspects of those cultures. It is pretty much the definition of America.



DomKen, no it doesn't mean yielding but that's what happens to wit President Pantload's special treatment of and disregard for the law regarding illegal aliens.
The textbook may say one thing but *reality* can be and is often quite differant!
If anyone thinks that a young Norwegian woman should be jailed for 16 months because she was raped then that's just Dubai's culture, right?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 2:57:16 PM   
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Jeffbc, are you a leftist?

No. I'm not anyone's sock puppet. I just believe in reality.



Jeff, ok, so we can mark you down as..."not a leftist" then?

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 3:47:42 PM   
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It's not working very well in Holland, Denmark and Sweden is it?
Oh, nor for English soldiers stationed in London.
"Multiculturalism works?"
Polite, that's laughable, just laughable!


Laughable that you cant seem to grasp America is probably the largest multicultural project of the last 220-ish years.

Are you seriously suggesting the murder of one soldier, by one radical, is indicative of Muslim society as a whole ?



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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 3:49:29 PM   
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Well in the UK not too long ago a Muslim lured a 13 year old online and had sex with her, which is statutory rape. Any Brit would be in prison for it but the judge let him off BECAUSE he is Muslim.


Got a link for that, Termy?


As much as I hate to agree, it actually happened. It was a ruling by a Judge Stokes as I recall but I will try and find more.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 3:58:09 PM   
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Got a link for that, Termy?


http://www.barenakedislam.com/2013/01/26/uk-judge-introduces-the-new-muslim-get-out-of-jail-free-card/

T^T

ETA : Other sources have it but that was the quickest one.

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RE: Gotta love that,...."Multiculturalism!" - 7/20/2013 4:09:41 PM   
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Theres a very good prog out there called Dispatches: The Hunt for Britains Sex Gangs.
It follows school girls who have been targeted by sex gangs, and the failure rate of getting these pigs incarcerated.
Wether russian, english, muslim, catholic, etc etc ad nauseam. Its got fuck all to do with multiculturism, but the nature of pigs to defile children.
The OP is all gung ho about people(read immigrants) fitting in with american rules n laws, "get out if you dont like it", "go back to where you came from" , but thinks that UAE and eeebil mooozlems should follow "laws" of the US.
No this woman didnt deserve to get jailed for rape, no woman deserves to get raped or jailed for it, but multiculturism is not the problem, if he knew what it meant it might help.
I knew there was a point he had when he brings up Obama, never minding that Obama has had more illegal immigrants removed than any president, EVER.



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