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Constructive criticism of my profile please - also a qu... - 7/21/2013 7:39:24 AM   
MrReluctant


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Hello Everyone

I'd like constructive criticism of my profile text please. How am I coming across? Would it encourage ladies to want to meet me?

Also, I'm too cautious at this early stage to put a photo on here. If I have a photo that doesn't show my face, will people assume I'm hiding something and be suspicious, or will they be more understanding, considering the nature of this site?

Many thanks. I look forward to your feedback.
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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 8:01:05 AM   
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Your profile is mostly just an erotic story. While it's nice to give someone an idea of what you are into, two or three sentences is enough. Otherwise you might inadvertently be sending out two messages: a) you are only interested in getting off and b) you are looking for someone to act out your personal masturbation script.

Now, if that is what you want, continue as you are. Best that people know that up front.

Most women aren't interested in the intimate details of your fantasies UNTIL they are interested in you as a person. Save this for a few weeks down the line (ie, until she says 'so tell me your favourite fantasy'). When people lead with 'I want you to do this, this and this to me' it gives the impression that anyone will do, so long as she follows the script, and that you're not really interested in the woman as a person. You can see why that's offputting, right?

Added to that dominants tend to want to call the shots. Now that's not to say that you won't get to play out your fantasies, but most dominants like to be creative and take the lead and be in control of what direction the scene goes. Your profile gives the impression you are looking for something very specific - it takes the fun out of it. You go into a lot of details about how she should dominate you, which somewhat misses the point of her dominating you - she's calling the shots.

Now the good news is you write well and come off as fairly intelligent, which is a good start. You make a token effort to mention your personality. But if you highlighted all the facts about you as a person, you would see they are drowned out by your sexual interests. Here's the thing about women - generally their interest in your sex preferences goes up in correlation to their interest in your personality.

My advice would be start over. Start with a paragraph about you - who you are, what sort of lifestyle do you lead, what sort of personality traits you have, what hobbies you follow. This is a conversation starter. It allows you or her to strike up a conversation with 'hey, I see you share my passion for amateur fireworks displays, did you check out the selection of rockets in JTF last year?'. This makes you stand out from people who lead with the internet equivalent of 'nice shoes, wanna fuck?'. Next a paragraph about what type of relationship you want - fuck buddies? Long term romance? In dom/sub roles all the time or in the bedroom only? Mention some things you would like to do together or traits you'd like her to have (eg. 'I'm looking for an adventurous spirit because I love to camp out under the stars'). THEN you can mention your kinks - but leave lots to the imagination. By all means mention you have a fantasy of being captured and kept naked - just don't fall into the trap of going into huge detail or worse, indicating you don't know fantasy from reality (in fairness I didn't get that impression from your profile).

Also, be proactive. Read profiles, send out messages which are thoughtful and show you are interested in who she is, and not just what she can provide.

As for photos - yes, put one up! If nothing else, people can check a box and instantly filter out profiles without a photo. Big hint: most women love photos of you engaging in a vanilla hobby - playing football, holding a pet, fixing your bike, tuning your violin - by all means find one that doesn't show your face, just don't focus on another body part either....

Edit to add: the other good news is that your fantasy isn't too crazy or out there. You should have no problem finding a woman who shares it or at least has similar enough tastes to join in with it. Once again - the more she likes you, the more she'll be interested in your kinks and the more she wants to make you happy.

< Message edited by AthenaSurrenders -- 7/21/2013 8:03:12 AM >


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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 8:24:18 AM   
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I agree with my girlfriend AthenaSurrenders. Your profile has one brief sentence about what you look like, then states your fantasies.

The question is, what happens if a Domme has her own fantasies, and they're different? IMO, fantasy fulfillment is not a good reason to see if a relationship would work, and that's what you're leading with.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 8:34:33 AM   
MrReluctant


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Thank you both, especially Anthea for taking the trouble to write a very detailed response.

I've still not added a photo, but I have amended my profile.

Further feedback appreciated.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 9:04:31 AM   
DarkSteven


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Oh, yeah, pics that hide faces are not uncommon. Go for it.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 9:27:24 AM   
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Athena is dead one. People forget that regardless of D/s or BDSM, everyone is human. Approaching someone as a human being first works much better.

As far as the photo: Don't be too concerned about it. Many can't show their faces due to work or things like that.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 9:58:05 AM   
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It is much better. Be sure to proof read well, you have 'hear' where you mean 'hair' in the first paragraph.

You have lots of interests listed which would give me somewhere to start a conversation. It's not all about sex. I feel I've had a glimpse of your personality.

I wasn't entirely sold on your first paragraph (for one thing, a lot of people claim to look younger so it's kinda meaningless) but that may be a personal taste thing rather than an actual problem.

Much, much better though.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 10:33:16 AM   
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You now have a nicely rounded profile.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 11:20:30 AM   
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I can't say I cared for it much. It rambled on in areas that aren't terribly important. (Who cares about the last time that you got carded?) You could cut at least half of the text that makes you sound like you just talk too much when you are nervous while keeping the pertinent information.

Switch the paragraphs that talk about what you are looking for as a person with the paragraph about the fantasies. The way that you have it now says the fantasy is more important because of the order.

Skip the fantasy about how you want to be naked in front of a bunch of women. That's not a strong selling point. I'd suggest bringing that up *after* you are in a relationship.

Had it not been for specifically asking for the profile to be reviewed, I wouldn't have read all of it. Even after improvement, it's still very fantasy driven and doesn't say anything about being interested in kink or female led relationships from a reality level.


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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 12:20:17 PM   
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I read it. All of it.

It's far too long and verbose, in my opinion.

Ditch the Mr Tumble on CBeebies reference. It made me cringe, perhaps because I know who Mr Tumble is, and let me assure you Justin Fletcher trying too hard to be fake funny and patronising children with additional needs is really not attractive to me in a profile.

As PP have said, I'd ditch the fantasy references - I am much more interested in you as a person, and as fantasies go, that's fairly normal. I've heard it from just about every sub that ever contacted me, and it makes me roll my eyes and go "not another one"

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 2:04:35 PM   
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Just finished reading your profile.

What I liked: it shows you're literate and intelligent (which is rather rare these days), gives some idea as to who you are, fairly funny (I didn't laugh out loud per se but some of it made me smile). Brownie points for not using the Oxford comma!

What I didn't like:
1. Complete lack of pictures. I would add a quick sentence saying something like "due to the nature of my job, I can't post face pictures but I will gladly send you one in a private message if you return the favor." My profile says the same thing and it shows me from several angles. Your profile does say that's you're 5'7", 135lb and Caucasian, but a picture showing your body with a blurred/masked face would still be worth a thousand words.
2. Too long. Up until the end, it looked like a Match.com profile. The sad truth is that most people online have a fairly short attention span and won't read more than 4-5 paragraphs unless you capture their attention. Every writer will do well to remember this rule: writing should be like a woman's skirt: long enough to cover the subject and short enough to create interest.
3. I would remove the Mr Tumble reference. The cost-benefit is just not worth it, unless most kinksters on your side of the pond love and adore that character.
4. Cut the fantasy, add some of your kink preferences instead.

Good luck!

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 4:58:53 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrReluctant

Thank you both, especially Anthea for taking the trouble to write a very detailed response.

I've still not added a photo, but I have amended my profile.

Further feedback appreciated.


My suggestion is to make a profile that reflects exactly who you are and what you are looking for. Therefore anyone reading it can either go "Hmmm" or move on.

The photo thing is a personal choice. It may be you dont wish to show your face due to your work or something. You could always explain that in your profile.

Good luck.

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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 9:00:33 PM   
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RE: Constructive criticism of my profile please - also ... - 7/21/2013 9:10:18 PM   
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I think we scared him away. :(

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