Secret Differences between Dems & Rep.

Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (Full Version)

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion

Message

SimplyMichael -> Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/23/2013 2:07:52 PM)
The Republicans can make mountains out of molehills but Democrats make molehills out of mountains.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/23/2013 2:17:14 PM)
I'd say either can make mountains out of mole hills. It depends on where they are.

FelineRanger -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/23/2013 2:19:34 PM)
At this point I don't see much difference between them at all. Neither set of professional politicians gives a shit about their constituencies.

GotSteel -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/23/2013 2:51:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. You mean like how Dems are able to learn and adapt instead of sticking with the traditional way of doing things no matter how badly that way has failed?

Edwynn -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/23/2013 10:25:28 PM)
Yeah, like the Democratic Representatives and Senators 'adapted' to the bankers and hedge funds and investment bankers (oh, wait; there's not a difference anymore, thanks to the 'bi-partisan' effort to eliminate the difference, and destroy the middle class in the process. Unless you are saying that it was a good idea to let Larry Summers (D) into the 'recovery' process, because he was almost as adept as Phil Gramm (R) in getting us into this fiasco in the first place. We are lost, and I mean lost.

tazzygirl -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/23/2013 10:26:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger At this point I don't see much difference between them at all. Neither set of professional politicians gives a shit about their constituencies. QFT

Powergamz1 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 1:14:42 AM)
Are we talking about the party of Arlen Specter and Virgil Goode, or the party of Virgil Goode and Arlen Specter? quote: ORIGINAL: FelineRanger At this point I don't see much difference between them at all. Neither set of professional politicians gives a shit about their constituencies.

cloudboy -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 6:31:18 AM)
Jokes are fine, but there's a marked different between the US Government under GWB and what we saw under Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. There's also no equivalent of Sarah Palin-Michelle Bachman on the Democratic side. Dick Cheney, who was the US Vice President for eight years, is either entirely delusional or a sociopath in his thinking. Of course the real underlying joke could be about this forum -- and no amount of satire could completely cover it, ever.

Zonie63 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 7:57:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Jokes are fine, but there's a marked different between the US Government under GWB and what we saw under Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. I've lived under all of these Presidents, and from the standpoint of the average citizen, I haven't really seen much difference at all, let alone a "marked" difference. Part of this is by design, since transfers of power are supposed to happen peacefully and seamlessly in the American experience. The other part is that the powers that be in both parties don't really want to do much to rock the boat, so not much ever changes no matter who is in power. They only bicker and argue over minutia and phony non-issues in order to distract the public and pass off the illusion that there's a "marked difference" between the parties. quote: There's also no equivalent of Sarah Palin-Michelle Bachman on the Democratic side. Dick Cheney, who was the US Vice President for eight years, is either entirely delusional or a sociopath in his thinking. I think both parties have their share of kooks and idiots. I don't see one as any better than the other in that regard.

Powergamz1 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 8:03:14 AM)
Refresh my memory... in which administration was it again, that the rich failed to get wealthier and wealthier? That our prison population shrank? That our literacy rate went up? quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Jokes are fine, but there's a marked different between the US Government under GWB and what we saw under Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. There's also no equivalent of Sarah Palin-Michelle Bachman on the Democratic side. Dick Cheney, who was the US Vice President for eight years, is either entirely delusional or a sociopath in his thinking. Of course the real underlying joke could be about this forum -- and no amount of satire could completely cover it, ever.

Edwynn -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 10:02:57 PM)
Good point, but there's no question that GW Bush and Cheney took the literacy score of the presidential office itself down quite a few notches. They had to hire Colin Powell, blabermouth Rumsfeld, and the Chevron board member Phd Condi Rice just to get back up to a 'net average intelligence,' to make up for such an otherwise deeply inherent deficit. PS Just as Reagen and the corporate army backing him took political debate from from wherever it was back to the level of wearing diapers. And throwing the contents therein as the new way of doing things. It's obvious that Reagan's and GW's backers watched a lot of Jane Goodall's films, and that the one thing that they were capable of gleaning from the behavior if the chimpanzees was the poop throwing aspect.

tazzygirl -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 10:13:08 PM)
~FR WASHINGTON – The number of adults under correctional supervision in the United States declined by less than one percent during 2009, dropping to 7,225,800 (or 48,800 fewer offenders than at yearend 2008), the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. This was the first measured decline in the total number of adults under correctional supervision since BJS began reporting these populations in 1980. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/corrections09pr.cfm WASHINGTON – The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reported today that the number of offenders under adult correctional supervision in the U.S. declined 1.3 percent in 2010, the second consecutive year of decline since BJS began reporting on this population in 1980. At yearend 2010, about 7.1 million people, or 1 in 33 adults, were under the supervision of adult correctional authorities in the U.S. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/p10cpus10pr.cfm During 2011, the number of prisoners under the jurisdiction of state and federal correctional authorities declined by 0.9%, from 1,613,803 to 1,598,780. http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4559

Edwynn -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 10:17:42 PM)
NM

DomKen -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/24/2013 10:42:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Jokes are fine, but there's a marked different between the US Government under GWB and what we saw under Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. I've lived under all of these Presidents, and from the standpoint of the average citizen, I haven't really seen much difference at all, let alone a "marked" difference. You didn't notice the years of prosperity under Clinton?

Zonie63 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/25/2013 6:38:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Jokes are fine, but there's a marked different between the US Government under GWB and what we saw under Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. I've lived under all of these Presidents, and from the standpoint of the average citizen, I haven't really seen much difference at all, let alone a "marked" difference. You didn't notice the years of prosperity under Clinton? Prosperity is fluid. Under any administration, a few people get rich, most people don't. People said there was a lot of prosperity under Reagan and his trickle-down economics (which showed no marked difference under Clinton), but for most people, it didn't mean a damn thing.

Powergamz1 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/25/2013 6:57:58 AM)
Thanks for demonstrating that you haven't got the faintest clue as to the difference between being in prison, and being on probation/parole. quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl ~FR WASHINGTON – The number of adults under correctional supervision in the United States declined by less than one percent during 2009, dropping to 7,225,800 (or 48,800 fewer offenders than at yearend 2008), the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. This was the first measured decline in the total number of adults under correctional supervision since BJS began reporting these populations in 1980. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/corrections09pr.cfm WASHINGTON – The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reported today that the number of offenders under adult correctional supervision in the U.S. declined 1.3 percent in 2010, the second consecutive year of decline since BJS began reporting on this population in 1980. At yearend 2010, about 7.1 million people, or 1 in 33 adults, were under the supervision of adult correctional authorities in the U.S. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/p10cpus10pr.cfm During 2011, the number of prisoners under the jurisdiction of state and federal correctional authorities declined by 0.9%, from 1,613,803 to 1,598,780. http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=4559

Powergamz1 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/25/2013 7:01:06 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: Zonie63 quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy Jokes are fine, but there's a marked different between the US Government under GWB and what we saw under Bill Clinton and Barak Obama. I've lived under all of these Presidents, and from the standpoint of the average citizen, I haven't really seen much difference at all, let alone a "marked" difference. You didn't notice the years of prosperity under Clinton? Prosperity is fluid. Under any administration, a few people get rich, most people don't. People said there was a lot of prosperity under Reagan and his trickle-down economics (which showed no marked difference under Clinton), but for most people, it didn't mean a damn thing. Which is why there is no effective difference between the parties at the top. The rich get richer, and the poor get prison.

tazzygirl -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/25/2013 7:07:31 AM)
[image]That our prison population shrank?[/image] http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/cranston-survey-finds-rhode-island-prison-population-dropped-over-9-percent-in-2009 http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/state/pa-prison-population-shows-largest-decline-669811/ http://www.ct.gov/opm/lib/opm/cjppd/cjresearch/monthlyindicators/2009monthlyindicatorsreports/monthlyindicatorsreport200901.pdf http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2077089,00.html http://www.northjersey.com/news/NJ_is_rarity_with_dip_in_prison_population.html?mobile=1 http://www.thecrimereport.org/news/articles/new-jersey-prison-population-declined-almost-15-in-last-decade http://business.topnewstoday.org/business/article/4154296/ http://www.georgiapolicy.org/thinking-outside-the-cell-texas-innovates-to-correct-course-in-prison-system/ http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Philadelphia_Research_Initiative/jail-populations-cost.pdf

Powergamz1 -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/25/2013 7:41:43 AM)
So one small state like Rhode Island is now the entire prison population of the United States of America? Or is your browser still changing the OP topics to words that no one else but you can see? [image]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/US_incarceration_timeline-clean-fixed-timescale.svg/350px-US_incarceration_timeline-clean-fixed-timescale.svg.png[/image] Feel free to show this 'decline' in the years under discussion (Nixon to present, let's say). quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl [image]That our prison population shrank?[/image] http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/cranston-survey-finds-rhode-island-prison-population-dropped-over-9-percent-in-2009 http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/state/pa-prison-population-shows-largest-decline-669811/ http://www.ct.gov/opm/lib/opm/cjppd/cjresearch/monthlyindicators/2009monthlyindicatorsreports/monthlyindicatorsreport200901.pdf http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2077089,00.html http://www.northjersey.com/news/NJ_is_rarity_with_dip_in_prison_population.html?mobile=1 http://www.thecrimereport.org/news/articles/new-jersey-prison-population-declined-almost-15-in-last-decade http://business.topnewstoday.org/business/article/4154296/ http://www.georgiapolicy.org/thinking-outside-the-cell-texas-innovates-to-correct-course-in-prison-system/ http://www.pewtrusts.org/uploadedFiles/wwwpewtrustsorg/Reports/Philadelphia_Research_Initiative/jail-populations-cost.pdf

tazzygirl -> RE: Secret Differences between Dems & Rep. (7/25/2013 7:45:02 AM)
Your figures show until 2006.... mine are not in conflict with yours. WASHINGTON – The number of adults under correctional supervision in the United States declined by less than one percent during 2009, dropping to 7,225,800 (or 48,800 fewer offenders than at yearend 2008), the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) announced today. This was the first measured decline in the total number of adults under correctional supervision since BJS began reporting these populations in 1980. http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/press/corrections09pr.cfm All the sources I have given have been 2009 and later.

Page: [1] 2 next > >>

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.046875