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Another one - 7/24/2013 7:13:44 PM   
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http://news.yahoo.com/gulf-rig-fire-natural-gas-flows-ruptured-well-145808123.html

A natural gas platform has suffered a blowout, the blowout preventer has failed and the rig structure is on fire. Methane, the primary component of natural gas, is toxic to most life and is a major greenhouse gas and this blown well will pour who knows how many cubic feet of it into the ocean and air before the well is capped.

At least this time nobody died, yet.
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RE: Another one - 7/24/2013 7:39:24 PM   
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Thanks Obama!

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RE: Another one - 7/24/2013 7:51:01 PM   
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You know BP is suing to get that cleanup money back. I haven't looked into it so I am not sure on exactly what grounds, but they are suing.

Walter oil and gas ?

T^T

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RE: Another one - 7/24/2013 8:48:14 PM   
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You know BP is suing to get that cleanup money back. I haven't looked into it so I am not sure on exactly what grounds, but they are suing.

Walter oil and gas ?

T^T

As usual you got a link or did this come out of your fantasy world?

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RE: Another one - 7/24/2013 9:28:00 PM   
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Thanks Obama!


OK, please entertain us further here.

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 1:38:15 AM   
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why does everyone have to PROVE every single thing around here?
it took me all of a MINUTE to find this and a few other links that confirm what was said!

http://consumerist.com/2012/01/03/bp-suing-halliburton-to-pick-up-the-42-billion-tab-for-oil-spill-clean-up/

GEEEZZZZZZ

this calling people liars because you don't like them and they didn't provide ABSOLUTE PROOF of something is just CHILDISH!

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

You know BP is suing to get that cleanup money back. I haven't looked into it so I am not sure on exactly what grounds, but they are suing.

Walter oil and gas ?

T^T

As usual you got a link or did this come out of your fantasy world?


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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 1:43:33 AM   
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why does everyone have to PROVE every single thing around here?


Wow. Did you really just say that?




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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 1:48:16 AM   
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why does everyone have to PROVE every single thing around here?



Try making a "I believe ..." Or "I think ..." statement and watch all the usual morons start demanding proof of your assertion. I think that's priceless.



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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 1:48:44 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

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why does everyone have to PROVE every single thing around here?


Wow. Did you really just say that?






yeah I did,
its one thing to question people about something its quite another to IMPLY they are LYING without even bothering to check for yourself!

this is supposed to be a discussion forum, its not a COURT OF LAW FOR CHRIST SAKE!

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:00:47 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin
why does everyone have to PROVE every single thing around here?


Wow. Did you really just say that?






He did just say that:
Proof:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4506253/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4506478


I read it myself.


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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:07:15 AM   
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Why worry???
It's natural gas right?

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:09:03 AM   
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quote:

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yeah I did,
its one thing to question people about something its quite another to IMPLY they are LYING without even bothering to check for yourself!

this is supposed to be a discussion forum, its not a COURT OF LAW FOR CHRIST SAKE!

How does one check your statements without references?



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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:19:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin
yeah I did,
its one thing to question people about something its quite another to IMPLY they are LYING without even bothering to check for yourself!

this is supposed to be a discussion forum, its not a COURT OF LAW FOR CHRIST SAKE!

How does one check your statements without references?



GOOGLE

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:29:37 AM   
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A blown-out natural gas well blazing off Louisiana's coast poses fewer environmental dangers than past offshore accidents because it appears to primarily involve gas that disperses relatively easily, scientists said Wednesday.

"A gas well's not going to result in any kind of major pollution — perhaps not even significant pollution if it's burning," said Ted Bourgoyne, the former chair of Louisiana State University's petroleum engineering department. He now runs the consultancy Bourgoyne Enterprises Inc.

Federal inspectors said a light sheen was spotted around the rig on Wednesday evening, though authorities said it quickly dissipated and the fire aboard the rig continued to be fed by natural gas. A sheen was spotted shortly after the blowout began on Tuesday but it, too, quickly dissipated.

Gas wells often also have oil or other hydrocarbons as well as natural gas. Officials and scientists agree the latest mishap shouldn't be nearly as damaging as the BP oil spill that famously sent crude oil oozing ashore in 2010.

The fire broke out late Tuesday hours after the blowout, authorities said. Forty-four workers were evacuated from a drilling rig at the site, and no injuries were reported.

By Wednesday evening, the derrick and drill floor structure had collapsed. A fireboat was pumping water on the rig in an effort to keep as much of it as cool as possible.

University of Georgia marine scientist Samantha "Mandy" Joye also said the pollution and health dangers posed by a gas well are quite different than those posed at the well where the Deepwater Horizon rig blew up in 2010, killing 11 people and spewing millions of gallons of oil for weeks.

"The biggest danger from gas is that it is extremely flammable. At high concentration, gas exposure can cause health issues (vomiting, headaches, and worse) but such high levels are not likely to be reached in warm, shallow waters," Joye said in an email response to questions.

That's not to say there were no dangers. The Coast Guard maintained traffic restrictions within 500 metres of the site and the Federal Aviation Administration restricted aircraft up to 610 metres over the area.

Tuesday's blowout occurred at a drilling rig adjacent to a natural gas platform that wasn't producing gas at the time about 89 kilometres south of the coast. The rig was completing a "sidetrack well," which drills into the same well hole under the platform. Industry experts say such wells are used to remedy an obstruction or other problem with the original bore, or to access a different part of the gas reserve.

Louisiana((U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement/AP/CBC))
Gas spewed throughout the day and ignited late Tuesday night. The cause of the blowout was under investigation being overseen by the federal Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement.

Rig owner Hercules Offshore Inc. said the plan to stop the flow of gas may include drilling a relief well to divert the gas from the accident site, which could take weeks.

"We are singularly focused on coming up with an action plan that would regain control over the well," said James Noe, an executive with Hercules, which was operating the rig for Walters Oil & Gas, an exploration and production company.

BSEE said the plan could be submitted for its approval as soon as Wednesday night. How long it would take to plug the well was uncertain.

Natural gas — mostly methane — is far more soluble than oil, meaning it more easily dissolves, dilutes and disperses than crude oil, said Donald Boesch, president of the University of Maryland's Center for Environmental Science and a member of the federal panel that investigated the BP oil spill. That means concentrations would be are far less lethal to the marine environment, he said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/07/24/gas-well-fire-gulf-mexico.html

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:33:28 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

A blown-out natural gas well blazing off Louisiana's coast poses fewer environmental dangers than past offshore accidents because it appears to primarily involve gas that disperses relatively easily, scientists said Wednesday.

"A gas well's not going to result in any kind of major pollution — perhaps not even significant pollution if it's burning," said Ted Bourgoyne, the former chair of Louisiana State University's petroleum engineering department. He now runs the consultancy Bourgoyne Enterprises Inc.

Federal inspectors said a light sheen was spotted around the rig on Wednesday evening, though authorities said it quickly dissipated and the fire aboard the rig continued to be fed by natural gas. A sheen was spotted shortly after the blowout began on Tuesday but it, too, quickly dissipated.

Gas wells often also have oil or other hydrocarbons as well as natural gas. Officials and scientists agree the latest mishap shouldn't be nearly as damaging as the BP oil spill that famously sent crude oil oozing ashore in 2010.

The fire broke out late Tuesday hours after the blowout, authorities said. Forty-four workers were evacuated from a drilling rig at the site, and no injuries were reported.

By Wednesday evening, the derrick and drill floor structure had collapsed. A fireboat was pumping water on the rig in an effort to keep as much of it as cool as possible.

University of Georgia marine scientist Samantha "Mandy" Joye also said the pollution and health dangers posed by a gas well are quite different than those posed at the well where the Deepwater Horizon rig blew up in 2010, killing 11 people and spewing millions of gallons of oil for weeks.

"The biggest danger from gas is that it is extremely flammable. At high concentration, gas exposure can cause health issues (vomiting, headaches, and worse) but such high levels are not likely to be reached in warm, shallow waters," Joye said in an email response to questions.

That's not to say there were no dangers. The Coast Guard maintained traffic restrictions within 500 metres of the site and the Federal Aviation Administration restricted aircraft up to 610 metres over the area.

Tuesday's blowout occurred at a drilling rig adjacent to a natural gas platform that wasn't producing gas at the time about 89 kilometres south of the coast. The rig was completing a "sidetrack well," which drills into the same well hole under the platform. Industry experts say such wells are used to remedy an obstruction or other problem with the original bore, or to access a different part of the gas reserve.

Louisiana((U.S. Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement/AP/CBC))
Gas spewed throughout the day and ignited late Tuesday night. The cause of the blowout was under investigation being overseen by the federal Bureau of Safety and Environmental Enforcement.

Rig owner Hercules Offshore Inc. said the plan to stop the flow of gas may include drilling a relief well to divert the gas from the accident site, which could take weeks.

"We are singularly focused on coming up with an action plan that would regain control over the well," said James Noe, an executive with Hercules, which was operating the rig for Walters Oil & Gas, an exploration and production company.

BSEE said the plan could be submitted for its approval as soon as Wednesday night. How long it would take to plug the well was uncertain.

Natural gas — mostly methane — is far more soluble than oil, meaning it more easily dissolves, dilutes and disperses than crude oil, said Donald Boesch, president of the University of Maryland's Center for Environmental Science and a member of the federal panel that investigated the BP oil spill. That means concentrations would be are far less lethal to the marine environment, he said.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2013/07/24/gas-well-fire-gulf-mexico.html

Do I only need to read the highlights or is it all important?
methane is a natural deposit abundant in our beautifull oceans.

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:38:44 AM   
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I didnt post all of it...if its not important to you, dont read it..
I bolded the part about methane and the non liklihood of damage to wioldlife in the gulf
Something totally different to the BP spill.
No Its still not good, but as you said, it is Natural Gas.
If it had been oil, we wouldnt be having this discussion
Every body ignored the leak in the pipelin in alberta and down the infamous XL line


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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 2:46:26 AM   
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As long as it's not Shell doing the damage it won't hurt my wallet.

Again I am not the one driving a car. never have and rather will not. I have principals combatting the evils in society.
Most have principals that end at the door of their house.

The only gas I use is for cookin and showering.

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 5:16:21 PM   
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Speaking of the BP/Halliburton catastrophe.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/2013/July/13-crm-850.html
Got no idea what the maximum fine is but its likely not all that much compared to Halliburton's daily profit.

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 5:22:27 PM   
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despicable assholes, the fine cant be enough...

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RE: Another one - 7/25/2013 5:57:17 PM   
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Methane, the primary component of natural gas, is toxic to most life and is a major greenhouse gas


Nope. Not toxic. Per wikipedia, and per my own organic chem course.

It is in fact a major greenhouse gas. But the amount released here is trivial compared to what Pemex vents to the atmosphere.

The huge danger is that it's explosive. That, plus the fact that this kind of accident shouldn't happen.

The cited article doesn't mention the blowout preventer. A better link gives more detail, still not mentioning the preventer.

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