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oralmale4maleetc -> what does this make me? (7/28/2013 12:56:29 PM)
one of my favorite fantasies, which I would love to make a reality, is to have a fully clothed gay man, I am straight though I guess I am flexible, watch and perhaps participate in some ways, while a fully clothed female, born female, places me in various bondage positions and disciplines me in various ways with various implements as well as other fetish activities such as boot worship, etc. The gay man would be allowed to touch me and talk to both the female disciplining me as well as talking with me. Also, if the gay man so desires, the female could order me to suck the gay man's cock, provided he is std free. Also, if the gay man has a cock larger than mine, mine is 5.5 inches erect, the female can compare our cock sizes and tease and humiliate me about how the gay man is more of a man than me because his cock is bigger than mine, as well as a number of other bdsm scenarios and activities. My question is, does this fantasy make me homophobic? I hope not as I have no problem with gay or bi people of either sex.

searching4mysir -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 1:20:01 PM)
It makes you an average hetero-flexible/bi-sexual man with a humiliation fetish.

SimplyMichael -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 1:26:13 PM)
Means your guilt and self loathing is keeping you from sucking cock like...well like someone who likes sucking coxk.

DesFIP -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 2:45:41 PM)
Bi with a small penis humiliation fetish.

littlewonder -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 6:50:15 PM)
a man who can't admit to what he desires so he cloaks it in kink.

SeekingTrinity -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 7:07:50 PM)
A guy who hasn't come to terms with his own (a) homosexuality or (b) bisexuality, so he creates this elaborate fantasy so he can be "forced" into doing something. Might be more in line with what lw was thinking

tsatske -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 7:45:06 PM)
I've said this on here before, but 'forced homosexuality' is a valid kink fantasy. My bff is a bi man who has no trouble admitting to being and calling himself bi. But the only time he likes to be with other men is when there is a dominant woman controlling the action. He loves to suck cock, but he has no interest in a romantic relationship with a man. There has to be a woman in the room for him to want to get it on with a man. He doesn't call it 'forced' because it's something he would have discussed liking, with his female partner. But I see no difference in what he does and guys who like to use the term 'forced'. IMO, they are just using a word that gets them hot. It's not really forced - Kind of like, I'm a slave, but you can't sell me on E-bay. It's a word loaded with connotations that resonate with mme.

SeekingTrinity -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 9:31:02 PM)
If this was directed at me and not a FR, I never once questioned the validity of OP's kink. I was asked for my opinion and I offered it. No one said it had to be agreed with, nor did I claim to be right. Only OP can judge that. Based on what was written and how it was worded, I still stand by what I said because that's what it honestly sounded like to me.

UllrsIshtar -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 9:39:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tsatske I've said this on here before, but 'forced homosexuality' is a valid kink fantasy. My bff is a bi man who has no trouble admitting to being and calling himself bi. But the only time he likes to be with other men is when there is a dominant woman controlling the action. He loves to suck cock, but he has no interest in a romantic relationship with a man. There has to be a woman in the room for him to want to get it on with a man. He doesn't call it 'forced' because it's something he would have discussed liking, with his female partner. But I see no difference in what he does and guys who like to use the term 'forced'. IMO, they are just using a word that gets them hot. It's not really forced - Kind of like, I'm a slave, but you can't sell me on E-bay. It's a word loaded with connotations that resonate with mme. I'm into 'forced' bisexuality with females. I'm not attracted to girls at all, and I've got no desire at all to have any kind of sexual contact with a woman, but, I happen to enjoy pleasing men. Considering that lots of men's fantasy is to have threesomes, I've often engaged in g/g sexual behavior, in order to please the man in question. Considering that 80% of my own sexuality is tied into kink, in particular bondage, restraints, and 'force' kind of scenarios (vanilla sex with either gender does nothing for me) the only way that a guy can get me to be really into the idea of having sex with another woman is by adding some layer of restraints and/or 'force' into the mix. The fact that I enjoy being 'forced' to do a whole range of things that I don't enjoy doing (going down on a girl being one of them) the fact that I enjoy forced bisexual behavior is no indication whatsoever that I'm actually bisexual. Girls don't do anything for me. In fact, it's precisely BECAUSE I don't enjoy having sex with women that it's erotic to be 'forced' to do it anyways.

MarineKitten -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 11:01:45 PM)
It all depends on what is getting you off. Is it the being forced to submit and do the act, or is it the fact that it is another of the same sex?

UllrsIshtar -> RE: what does this make me? (7/28/2013 11:37:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MarineKitten It all depends on what is getting you off. Is it the being forced to submit and do the act, or is it the fact that it is another of the same sex? Did you read my post at all? I don't get off on having sex with girls. 80% of my sexuality is tied into bondage, force and restraints. It's that that gets me off, the act in itself is absolutely irrelevant, as long as it's something I don't enjoy doing.

metamorfosis -> RE: what does this make me? (7/29/2013 2:55:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tsatske I've said this on here before, but 'forced homosexuality' is a valid kink fantasy. Yes. What does it make you? Someone who has such-and-such as a fantasy. Someone who likes to analyse his fantasies. I'm just not getting guilt, self loathing, denial, or other such hang up from either your post or your profile, and I'm left wondering where other people are seeing them.

kiwisub12 -> RE: what does this make me? (7/29/2013 3:41:13 AM)
OP, just going by your nick I would have thought you were a gay male. In fact, if you are looking for a female partner, you might consider changing it -- I haven't looked at your profile to see what you are wanting. If I was looking for a male, I would think that you were more about your kink than the other person in the bed with you. As for your definition, does it really matter?

Rochsub2009 -> RE: what does this make me? (7/29/2013 8:18:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oralmale4maleetc My question is, does this fantasy make me homophobic? Ummmmmm, I'm confused. How would fantasizing about sucking dick make you homophobic? Wouldn't it imply the opposite? The reality is that none of us know what you are. Only you know that. So our opinions are irrelevant. Just do you. Forget about the labels and the opinions of others. Life will be much simpler, and much more enjoyable that way.

ResidentSadist -> RE: what does this make me? (7/29/2013 11:24:32 AM)
It means the closet door is stuck and you can't get out.

LookieNoNookie -> RE: what does this make me? (7/29/2013 4:49:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: oralmale4maleetc one of my favorite fantasies, which I would love to make a reality, is to have a fully clothed gay man, I am straight though I guess I am flexible, watch and perhaps participate in some ways, while a fully clothed female, born female, places me in various bondage positions and disciplines me in various ways with various implements as well as other fetish activities such as boot worship, etc. The gay man would be allowed to touch me and talk to both the female disciplining me as well as talking with me. Also, if the gay man so desires, the female could order me to suck the gay man's cock, provided he is std free. Also, if the gay man has a cock larger than mine, mine is 5.5 inches erect, the female can compare our cock sizes and tease and humiliate me about how the gay man is more of a man than me because his cock is bigger than mine, as well as a number of other bdsm scenarios and activities. I don't think I grasped your intent. Could you be more specific?

MarineKitten -> RE: what does this make me? (7/30/2013 8:42:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar quote: ORIGINAL: MarineKitten It all depends on what is getting you off. Is it the being forced to submit and do the act, or is it the fact that it is another of the same sex? Did you read my post at all? I don't get off on having sex with girls. 80% of my sexuality is tied into bondage, force and restraints. It's that that gets me off, the act in itself is absolutely irrelevant, as long as it's something I don't enjoy doing. No I did not, have now, and what I said still stands as I am referring to the OP, and not you. You enjoy play rape, good on you. Would you like to see the box of fuck I don't give?

UllrsIshtar -> RE: what does this make me? (7/30/2013 8:56:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MarineKitten quote: ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar quote: ORIGINAL: MarineKitten It all depends on what is getting you off. Is it the being forced to submit and do the act, or is it the fact that it is another of the same sex? Did you read my post at all? I don't get off on having sex with girls. 80% of my sexuality is tied into bondage, force and restraints. It's that that gets me off, the act in itself is absolutely irrelevant, as long as it's something I don't enjoy doing. No I did not, have now, and what I said still stands as I am referring to the OP, and not you. You enjoy play rape, good on you. Would you like to see the box of fuck I don't give? Your post was in reply to mine, and considering that you didn't specify you were talking to the OP, I assumed you were asking me. Way to get your panties tied up in a bunch because you're being unclear who you're talking to...

MarineKitten -> RE: what does this make me? (7/30/2013 9:14:12 PM)
I FR as I always do, if it sets things up so that it is in reply to the last post present that isn't may fault, nor is it my problem. You are the one who was compelled to bitch and whine first so please don't start playing the pot calling the kettle black game.

UllrsIshtar -> RE: what does this make me? (7/30/2013 9:26:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MarineKitten I FR as I always do, if it sets things up so that it is in reply to the last post present that isn't may fault, nor is it my problem. You are the one who was compelled to bitch and whine first so please don't start playing the pot calling the kettle black game. I didn't bitch and whine. I made a post. You asked a question that looked like it was entirely based on that post. I asked you a question and restated my position. You got your panties tied up in a bunch because of somebody misunderstanding a sequence of events that where very easy to be taken several different ways. You could have merely clarified that you didn't intended that question for me, no reason to feel so defensive or hostile about it.

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