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TieMeInKnottss -> Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 8:09:26 AM)

There was an intro from someone looking to advertise herself as a "pro sub whore". Couple of the responses got me thinking but the intro section does not permit too far off topic discussion...so I am starting my own thread and hopefully people will answer?

1- Someone mentioned prostitution is now legal in AU with some restrictions. What are they?

2- Someone brought up the number of "pro" ads on here in profiles... How does the website really monitor whether a pro if offering a "happy ending" not to mention how do they ethically keep the line between "sex workers" who commit sex acts and those who collect money to give "sexual gratification"

3. Do many have interest in hiring a "pro sub"? I am unashamedly into being a sub for the sex...Yeah, I enjoy the stuff that is usually expected of a sub & I am turned on by wanting to get the approval of someone I look up to or am attracted to but...cannot say I would be interested in a relationship where someone came in for an hour or two and just gave me orders to pick up his laundry, do the dishes , cook meals...and where is the difference between a "pro sub" and a "pro housekeeper"?

What can I say...enquiring minds want to know!!




DesFIP -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 1:10:11 PM)

Pro subs don't do dishes and such. Really like a pro domme is actually a top, a pro sub is actually a bottom. They'll take pain or be tied up in exchange for money. Sex is normally not included.

The problem is in staying safe, so they do better if they work out of a house with other pro tops and/or bottoms.




ResidentSadist -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 1:24:44 PM)

I heard there was trouble with some high rank politician's scandals about prostitutes . . . so they legalized it to prevent corruption. I do not know the details other than they have to get licensed like they do in Mexico.




TNDommeK -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 2:42:19 PM)

ThelilSquaw is a pro sub, it would be cool if she answered.




Charles6682 -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 4:28:56 PM)

I could be considered a pro sub I guess, for the video's I've been in. However, that's just for fun really. It's certainly no career for a male sub. Female subs probably get paid more,I'm sure. Either way, I am a sub at heart first and anything after that is really, just something else to do.




DesFIP -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 5:11:10 PM)

No, I wouldn't call you a pro sub. I'd call you a porn star. Or actor. Although you never hear of people referred to as porn actors and actresses. They're always stars.




ThundersCry54 -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 5:13:41 PM)

Hopefully Lynxx chimes in...




Charles6682 -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 6:12:42 PM)

Whatever the videos are, those are just for show. In real life, I am a "Lifestyle Submissive" or whatever you want to call it. I just know I am a Submissive deep down first. As long as I'm not collared or have a Domme who would care, I see nothing wrong with it. Since its okay for Female Subs to do videos, I see no reason why a Male Sub can't either.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

No, I wouldn't call you a pro sub. I'd call you a porn star. Or actor. Although you never hear of people referred to as porn actors and actresses. They're always stars.




FrostedFlake -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/3/2013 11:42:42 PM)

Pro sub.

Like that guy the runs the till at 7/11?




Snitch -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/4/2013 5:42:58 AM)

Regarding what collarme does, they won't do anything. I once reported an underage pro sub to them, not because she was a pro sub, but because she said in the CM message system she was underage and CM did absolutely nothing about it, even with me sending them the message itself.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/4/2013 5:59:18 AM)

To whom did you report this? If you were to report this to me, I wouldn't be able to do anything about this myself, as I only work on this, the collarchat part of the site. However, I would report this to VideoAdminAlpha, who is very responsive to reports of underage.




TieMeInKnottss -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/4/2013 6:36:54 AM)

I guess my question...other than the part about the Austrailian legalization of prostitution, is where the differentiation is.

There are many profiles where women are asking for money-ok no sexual contact so NOT illegal but many are selling things such as underwear or advertising other sites that are pay....so doesn't that MAKE them pro? Use to be in the Olympics, if you ever earned money from your sport...you lost your amateur status.




ARIES83 -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/4/2013 7:07:29 AM)

I'm pretty sure you could just google the specific legalities applying to sex workers in Australia...
But from what I know, there are a lot of brothels and "escort services" around... The industry is controlled, I'm pretty sure standing on the street selling sex is illegal... Beyond that I duno.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/4/2013 8:30:10 AM)

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many are selling things such as underwear

We specifically prohibit the sale of used underwear, so if you see any posts for this, please report them.

Section Guidelines - Sought, or For Sale

...In addition, ads for 'soiled' or 'used' undergarments are not acceptable here.




dollenburg -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/4/2013 10:30:14 AM)


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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminChi

To whom did you report this? If you were to report this to me, I wouldn't be able to do anything about this myself, as I only work on this, the collarchat part of the site. However, I would report this to VideoAdminAlpha, who is very responsive to reports of underage.


This statement is patently untrue.

I had recently reported to VideoAdminChi a (well) underage switch, not even close to 18, on 7/26/2013 at 3:38AM. I couldn't figure out how to forward the message, so I had attached a clear screenshot of the proof, although I'm sure CM can read everyone's CM mail so they can see it for themselves.

VideoAdminChi promptly told me to go to VideoAdminAlpha.

I duly reported the message, with the screenshot, to VideoAdminAlpha on 7/26/2013 at 7:36PM.

Guess what?

The profile is still there, and still contacting me. I am still responding to the profile to keep the dialog going so that VideoAdminAlpha would have more information; but VideoAdminAlpha has done NOTHING about it. Not a single thing. The profile is still there and is still quite active.

I tried various methods to garner more explicit information for CM, but, really, the question becomes whether I should have to do all this just to get CM to take notice of a purported 15 year old with an active profile?

I'm astounded that VideoAdminAlpha hasn't even bothered to reply to my concerns, even though, as VideoAdminChi knows full well, the veracity of my statements is all in the records, in writing, clear as day.

I also tried other means of gathering data and reporting to CM. For example, I reported the profile to the REPORT mechanism button on the profile itself, and, IIRC, I reported it to the CM support team from the support link. I also tried other less-conventional methods.

All to no avail.

Personally, I suspect something funny going on, so I was, for a while, testing the account, but clearly something is wrong with the process here and I'm trying to figure it out myself what is going on because nothing is as it at first appears to be.

To VideoAdminChi:
Do I have to actually post the screenshot right here and now just to get anyone on Collarme to even RESPOND to what I already clearly provided to you about a reputed 15 year old kid with a clearly and provably active profile?




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/5/2013 5:33:57 PM)

This is a spectacular question....I myself have considered the professional sub aspect....

I'm still determining my rates.




VideoAdminAlpha -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/5/2013 7:52:08 PM)

Fast Reply., Site rules as to prostitution are based on US law, where the server is. Those are the guiding tenents regarding prostitution




BringItOnBoys -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/5/2013 8:28:04 PM)

OP, to your question #3 about men hiring for it: my profile clearly states I am not looking for someone but I was approached by 2 different people to be paid to be their sub. [sm=wtf.gif] I think there are many more into it than would publicly admit it here.




Secretdamsel -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/5/2013 8:39:50 PM)

Pro means paid.




VideoAdminChi -> RE: Pro Subs vs Pro..Others (8/6/2013 7:17:45 AM)

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The profile is still there and is still quite active.


As you learned on the other thread, action was taken. Other posters can see Alpha's reply here: http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4515625




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