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Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British governments - 8/3/2013 6:46:37 PM   
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Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British governments

...the US and British banking systems are indeed parasitical criminal enterprises which serve no positive social purpose, but which absorb government and other resources in such a way as to make economic recovery in their respective nations impossible."
A series of enormous financial scandals over the past few months provides new proof of the existence of an international banking cartel in the form of an ongoing criminal enterprise devoted to market manipulation, money laundering and embezzlement, and enjoying the collusion of the US and British governments at the highest level.


The LIBOR scandal may well represent the biggest corruption case in the history of the world. Every morning at 11 a.m. UK time, 16 leading banks operating in the City of London report, under the auspices of the British Bankers’ Association, the rate of interest that they would expect to pay to borrow money from another bank. Of these 16 numbers, the four highest and the four lowest are removed from consideration, and the remaining eight are averaged together.

The result is LIBOR, meaning the London Inter-Bank Offered Rate, which is published by Thomson Reuters at 11:30 a.m. London time, and which represents the main point of reference for short-term interest rates around the world. The interest rates paid on almost $1 quadrillion ($1,000 trillion) of Eurodollar contracts, interest rate swaps, and various other derivatives are based directly on LIBOR. This entire process is almost completely unregulated by government agencies, relying instead on the word of honor of bankers who have repeatedly shown that they are predators and liars.


The banks taking part in the LIBOR fixing include Barclays, Royal Bank of Scotland, HSBC, Lloyds Bank TSB (which absorbed HBOS in January 2009), Bank of America, Citigroup, J.P. Morgan Chase, UBS, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, Westdeutsche Landesbank, Société Générale of France, Bank of Tokyo Mitsubishi UJF, Norinchukin of Japan, Royal Bank of Canada, and Rabobank of the Netherlands. The list of LIBOR participants is actually a membership list of the world’s “too big to fail” banking cartel of the most powerful - and the most insolvent - financial faction on the planet.

As early as 2007, Deputy Governor Paul Tucker of the Bank Of England was aware that some banks were reporting that they could borrow money at interest rates which were much lower than what they were really forced to pay. These banks were trying to conceal how close to bankruptcy they actually were, in the hopes of avoiding panic withdrawals by depositors. Sometimes, banks attempted to drive LIBOR up because of certain speculative positions they had taken. International financial authorities like the International Monetary Fund and the Bank for International Settlements attempted to cover up the scandal, but it finally exploded into public view in March 2012.



Evidence in the form of e-mails showing a conspiracy to manipulate LIBOR emerged first in regard to Barclays Bank, which was fined $200 million by the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission, $160 million by the US Department of Justice, and 60,000,000 Pounds by the British Financial Services Authority. Barclays Chairman Marcus Agius was forced to quit, as was Chief Executive Officer Robert Diamond. But there were no criminal charges.

Timothy Geithner, who is currently Obama’s Secretary of the Treasury, was in 2008 the head of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the flagship of the US Federal Reserve System. Geithner’s testimony at congressional hearings showed that he had done nothing to stop the criminal abuse of LIBOR, but he attempted to escape responsibility by saying it was up to the British to take the lead. Most importantly, no US or British official did anything to warn the public about the biggest financial fraud of all time. The central banks and government agencies, which are supposed to act as regulators, have all been captured and put into the service of the banks they are supposed to be overseeing.

It is impossible to imagine that Barclays Bank acted alone. Because of the way the LIBOR process is structured, a single bank cannot hope to manipulate the rate. Therefore, there had to be a conspiracy embracing most or all of the 16 LIBOR banks.


With these revelations, a final and conclusive case emerges that the US and British banking systems are indeed parasitical criminal enterprises which serve no positive social purpose, but which absorb government and other resources in such a way as to make economic recovery in their respective nations impossible.

Because LIBOR had been faked, many investors around the world, including pension funds and individuals, received - See more here
The views expressed in this article are those of the author and not necessarily those of Press TV.



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seems to me hamilton was the one who got us ass deep under british banking cartel rule.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/3/2013 7:38:18 PM   
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"seems to me hamilton was the one who got us ass deep under british banking cartel rule. "

But Jackson was the one who hired Taney.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/3/2013 7:40:49 PM   
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People here could care less about monetary policy- even tho once you understand that game- everything else comes into focus.


-- perplexing really when you need cash to do anything----

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/3/2013 9:26:43 PM   
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They'll care when it takes a wheelbarrrel full of money to buy a loaf of bread. Same shit different day.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 2:28:52 AM   
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Another trolling thread.....it must be Sunday.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 4:17:49 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne

A series of enormous financial scandals over the past few months


Actually, over the past 15 years, for those keeping up.


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provides new proof of the existence of an international banking cartel in the form of an ongoing criminal enterprise devoted to market manipulation, money laundering and embezzlement, ...


What embezzlement? Christ, get a clue. The banks know and would recognize the tell-tale signs of financial shenanigans better than anyone.

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and enjoying the collusion of the US and British governments at the highest level.


It's not collusion, it's direct supervision by the financial industry to the relevant regulatory agencies. What cave have you been living in?

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This entire process is almost completely unregulated by government agencies, relying instead on the word of honor of bankers who have repeatedly shown that they are predators and liars.


OK, so you have been braying all this time about too much government, but now you are saying that there was not enough government?

Are you hinting to us that you are finally starting to get what the real problem is, here?

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Most importantly, no US or British official did anything to warn the public about the biggest financial fraud of all time.


Oh please. The Collateralized Debt Obligations, the Credit Default Swaps, and the further derivatives based upon them, and the collusion of the credit rating agencies are the biggest and most destructive swindle in recent history. But John Law in 18th century France probably surpassed even that.

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The central banks and government agencies, which are supposed to act as regulators, have all been captured and put into the service of the banks they are supposed to be overseeing.


As result of the 'smaller government' that you have been advocating and cheerleading all the while. When you poop directly beside where you eat, it eventually comes back to bite you.


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With these revelations, a final and conclusive case emerges that the US and British banking systems are indeed parasitical criminal enterprises which serve no positive social purpose, but which absorb government and other resources in such a way as to make economic recovery in their respective nations impossible.



But the markets are self-regulating, therefore no need for government meddling. That's the story isn't it?

I think you need to sit down and read the article again and understand what it's really saying, especially about regulatory failure, because it actually gives good evidence that goes completely against everything you normally carry on about in this forum.




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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 4:46:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

A series of enormous financial scandals over the past few months


Actually, over the past 15 years, for those keeping up.


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provides new proof of the existence of an international banking cartel in the form of an ongoing criminal enterprise devoted to market manipulation, money laundering and embezzlement, ...


What embezzlement? Christ, get a clue. The banks know and would recognize the tell-tale signs of financial shenanigans better than anyone.
the point however is that people do not know what it is, the banks invented it after all and have been using these methods against people since their inception now with the help if their pals the government.
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and enjoying the collusion of the US and British governments at the highest level.


It's not collusion, it's direct supervision by the financial industry to the relevant regulatory agencies. What cave have you been living in?
which is collusion in the commission of a crime
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This entire process is almost completely unregulated by government agencies, relying instead on the word of honor of bankers who have repeatedly shown that they are predators and liars.


OK, so you have been braying all this time about too much government, but now you are saying that there was not enough government?
try a little harder not to mischaracterize my positions, when it comes to banking you can not get enough and likely will never get enough regulation. Outside of regulating government the only instance I would ever champion high regulation
Are you hinting to us that you are finally starting to get what the real problem is, here?
The system is fundamentally flawed much like law and the system of government we have
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Most importantly, no US or British official did anything to warn the public about the biggest financial fraud of all time.


Oh please. The Collateralized Debt Obligations, the Credit Default Swaps, and the further derivatives based upon them, and the collusion of the credit rating agencies are the biggest and most destructive swindle in recent history. But John Law in 18th century France probably surpassed even that.
The federal reserve and the treasury cross so much its nearly like they have an employee exchange program between them
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The central banks and government agencies, which are supposed to act as regulators, have all been captured and put into the service of the banks they are supposed to be overseeing.


As result of the 'smaller government' that you have been advocating and cheerleading all the while. When you poop directly beside where you eat, it eventually comes back to bite you.

again you miscatagorize my point, larger government toward banks and repeal anything connected to the patriot act.
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With these revelations, a final and conclusive case emerges that the US and British banking systems are indeed parasitical criminal enterprises which serve no positive social purpose, but which absorb government and other resources in such a way as to make economic recovery in their respective nations impossible.


But the markets are self-regulating, therefore no need for government meddling. That's the story isn't it?

I think you need to sit down and read the article again and understand what it's really saying, especially about regulatory failure, because it actually gives good evidence that goes completely against everything you normally carry on about in this forum.



I think it illustrates the cancer from within that has been allowed to grow by having a government that is bought and paid for by banksters through their own corruption.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 5:00:12 AM   
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Another trolling thread.....it must be Sunday.



Just block the fccker and then you are done.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 5:08:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy


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Another trolling thread.....it must be Sunday.



Just block the fccker and then you are done.


Unlike you, I havent blocked anyone..... Guessing I am a stronger supporter of free speech huh.....

Edwynn...... John Law didnt just cause problems in France, look at Louisiana. The problem was no one had a clue how to put things right, so they left the lunatic to run the asylum.

I am on the last chapter of a book called the Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson who explains the history of money as we know it in great detail.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 5:29:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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Another trolling thread.....it must be Sunday.



Just block the fccker and then you are done.


Unlike you, I havent blocked anyone..... Guessing I am a stronger supporter of free speech huh.....

Edwynn...... John Law didnt just cause problems in France, look at Louisiana. The problem was no one had a clue how to put things right, so they left the lunatic to run the asylum.

I am on the last chapter of a book called the Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson who explains the history of money as we know it in great detail.




Free speech- does not mean I have to listen to it. It means people can speak it. My free speech is blocking the one person who never ever contributes to a conversation. This is the set up of this message board- a good one too. That person can spout off. I have to right to not be verbally harassed, dont confuse free speech with said person must be heard. Considering how volital I am and have been- and how fragmented my posting style is- and my history- admit that you are amazed I blocked only one person.

You do not like R0 ideology. You really should entertain his ideas via monetary policy. Nothing else matters until this is fixed.

Isnt the purpose of being on a message board to grow and evolve? Certainly I have- if you dont evolve- you are dead. Stagnant. You can learn things from R0, but you are so busy defending the status quo- just maybe there is a better mouse trap?

Sniping and jabbing others is fun- but at times- look for the knowledge and grow. Evolve or die- thats life.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 7:12:29 AM   
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I am on the last chapter of a book called the Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson who explains the history of money as we know it in great detail.



Are you learning anything?

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 7:46:24 AM   
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banking = thugs crooks con artists

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Xx_5PuLIzc

misses numerous important points, to the extent that it borders in some cases apologetic also often fails to point out "design", but fairly good nonetheless





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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 9:53:14 AM   
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What embezzlement? Christ, get a clue. The banks know and would recognize the tell-tale signs of financial shenanigans better than anyone.


They sure would since they are experts at it.

One nice thing about when bankers embezzle, they FINALLY pay fucking income taxes. They no longer want stocks and options and shit so they must write themselves checks. Sorry bout that, but now it's taxable.

Banking IS stealing, period. When you make money for nothing, what is that ? If it's gambling that's different becasue you might lose, but when they lose they lose the Peole's money, not their own.

I suppose what the Hostess board did was't stealing either, taking the supposedly sequested pension funds to pay themselves bonuses. Oh wait, that's OK because they planned it right. They took too much money and had to use the pension fund to keep the company going, and THEN paid themselves bonuses from a different stack of money.

That makes it alright.

If you don't understand, banks are technically branches of the fed. The fed prints all kinds of money, but not necessarily prints it per se. Either way they create money. This makes YOUR money worth a little bit less. Every fucking day.

They got money, you lost money, or more aptly the value thereof. They didn't do a fucking thing for that money, you did. They got more and you got less all the sudden.

Perhaps you should look up the definition of theft. Not the legal defiition because we KNOW it is perfectly legal, a judge let the board of Hostess rape the company one more time after they filed bankruptcy. A cool $1.8 million, AFTER the pension fund was emptied. Hint; if they were maintaining a pension fund they were technically engaged in banking. (in employment, if at all possible, get all your money NOW)

I do not subscribe to the ridiculous principle that if it is legal it is right and if it is illegal it is wrong. I also agree wirth Rand Paul in that while the supreme court may make decisions based on their interpretation of the Constitution, they are not necessarily right. In fact they should be hung.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/4/2013 3:22:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Yachtie


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I am on the last chapter of a book called the Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson who explains the history of money as we know it in great detail.



Are you learning anything?


Your helpful posting teaches me much, but thanks for showing concern.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/6/2013 9:41:15 PM   
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Edwynn...... John Law didnt just cause problems in France, look at Louisiana. The problem was no one had a clue how to put things right, so they left the lunatic to run the asylum.

I am on the last chapter of a book called the Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson who explains the history of money as we know it in great detail.




I read that book a couple of years ago, one of the more interesting books on the history of money, of which I've read several before and a couple since. I didn't say that Law was solely responsible for the affair, I just used the commonly historical reference to it. In any case there are quite a number of financial swindles on a grand scale throughout history that far surpass the recent LIBOR affair, and that was my point.

I've also read Ferguson's history of the Rothschilds (Vol. I) and Cash Nexus and The Pity Of War, along with a few of his FT and Newsweek columns. He has an 'interesting' perspective, to say the least. He seems to be somewhat the neo-imperialist on occasion. His last words in the book Cash Nexus (2001) are something to the effect (my paraphrasing here, as I don't have it in front of me) that the US should invade Iraq, but they don't have the guts to do it.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/6/2013 9:54:59 PM   
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I thought mentioning the Rothschilds was anti-Semitic.

Silly me.

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RE: Criminal banking cartel dominates US, British gover... - 8/7/2013 3:47:47 AM   
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I thought mentioning the Rothschilds was anti-Semitic.



Only for Jew haters. But this was a history book.

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