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better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 2:36:36 PM

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teenager arrested for sarcastic comment on facebook game

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Justin Carter and his buddies were having a sarcastic argument in the third person and, according to his father, went something like this:
“Someone had said something to the effect of ‘Oh you’re insane, you’re crazy, you’re messed up in the head,’ to which he replied ‘Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts,’” recalled Justin’s dad Jack. “The next two lines were lol and jk.”
A woman in Canada saw the comment, took it literally, and tracked down Carter’s address through Google. Noticing that Carter’s home was near an elementary school, she immediately notified the police.
Justin was arrested and charged with making a terrorist threats.

I haven't seen a tread about this... but is it possible that no-one in the judiciary system had a little common sense?

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 2:39:11 PM

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They might, but he isnt in the judicial system, it is cops, furthest thing from common sense or judicial you will find.

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 3:04:44 PM

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ok I'm not so aware on how your judical system works but if a bail is set and someone spends month in prison means a prosecutor must have filed charges, a judge must have reviewed the case and decided to not drop the charges and decided to go on and start a trial this makes two more people other than the canadian woman and the cops to be real assholes, or can someone be held in prison for as long as police decide?

I mean he wrote something like: "Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts." the sentence is inappropriate for sure but he implied that someone has to be real messed up in the head to do such an act, than this is not even in the form of a terroristic thred, he didn't said something like "or you free all Al-quaeda members in american prison or I’m going to shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts." on the governor facebook profile, so this can't even be considered terrorism.

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 3:13:28 PM

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hmmm... I wonder if there were any guns in the house.. if there was access to weapons, then maybe thats why they did that? guess the cops dont want to take the chance and not act, then if the kid actually went ahead and did it then the cops would be in deep shite, wouldnt they? Some spree killers have done that before, made comments weeks before they went and killed.. The US does come down much harder on kids that have committed serious crime much harder than my home country does.. but in my home country, guns are not nearly as common/available as here..

The kid is out on bail now, apparently..

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 3:37:58 PM

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one thing is sure, now he will be messed up in the head for a long time. Ok but even if he had access to guns, is there something as preventive incarceration for "not committing any crime yet but in the doubt you were serious about it" to me it looks like moving ahead with blinkers without considering the context.

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 4:04:36 PM

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one thing is sure, now he will be messed up in the head for a long time. Ok but even if he had access to guns, is there something as preventive incarceration for "not committing any crime yet but in the doubt you were serious about it" to me it looks like moving ahead with blinkers without considering the context.

Yup there is.. its called "Indefinate Detention".. Obama signed the law on that about 1 year ago..

"provision allows for the indefinite imprisonment of U.S. citizens, or as Obama calls it “prolonged detention.” Prolonged detention allows for the detention of an individual without a charge or trial."
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22288/ndaa-2013-allows-indefinite-detention-of-u-s-citizens-by-president

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 4:20:25 PM

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It wasn't sarcasm - it was stupidity. The joke was in poor taste and far too soon after the Sandy Hook shooting. It wasn't the cops that got to him, though:

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A woman in Canada saw the comment, took it literally, and tracked down Carter’s address through Google. Noticing that Carter’s home was near an elementary school, she immediately notified the police.

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As in most things in life, it took 2 idiots to get this ball rolling: a dumb kid who posted something like that on facebook and an overeager wannabe-cop who fights evil by snooping online.

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 4:22:25 PM

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It wasn't sarcasm - it was stupidity. The joke was in poor taste and far too soon after the Sandy Hook shooting. It wasn't the cops that got to him, though:

it was the cops that charged him and threw him in jail.. it was their determination & decision..

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 5:18:30 PM

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one thing is sure, now he will be messed up in the head for a long time. Ok but even if he had access to guns, is there something as preventive incarceration for "not committing any crime yet but in the doubt you were serious about it" to me it looks like moving ahead with blinkers without considering the context.

Yup there is.. its called "Indefinate Detention".. Obama signed the law on that about 1 year ago..

"provision allows for the indefinite imprisonment of U.S. citizens, or as Obama calls it “prolonged detention.” Prolonged detention allows for the detention of an individual without a charge or trial."
http://www.policymic.com/articles/22288/ndaa-2013-allows-indefinite-detention-of-u-s-citizens-by-president

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 5:24:48 PM

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just to know, isn't in USA any kind of judge group that verify that a law is not against US costitution? And there is one, than isn't there anything that forbids this in US costitution?

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 6:48:44 PM

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I'd like to get the name of that Canadian dumbass. I have a lovely bit of oceanfront property she might like to invest in.

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 7:07:42 PM

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teenager arrested for sarcastic comment on facebook game

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Justin Carter and his buddies were having a sarcastic argument in the third person and, according to his father, went something like this:
“Someone had said something to the effect of ‘Oh you’re insane, you’re crazy, you’re messed up in the head,’ to which he replied ‘Oh yeah, I’m real messed up in the head, I’m going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts,’” recalled Justin’s dad Jack. “The next two lines were lol and jk.”
A woman in Canada saw the comment, took it literally, and tracked down Carter’s address through Google. Noticing that Carter’s home was near an elementary school, she immediately notified the police.
Justin was arrested and charged with making a terrorist threats.

I haven't seen a tread about this... but is it possible that no-one in the judiciary system had a little common sense?

Well, the kids could do an ; "I am Justin" and do the same thing. After a few dozen of them are "in the can" and then a few hundred of them do it and more and more 'till the jails are full *maybe* the cops or district atty will wise up.

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 7:59:43 PM

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It wasn't sarcasm - it was stupidity. The joke was in poor taste and far too soon after the Sandy Hook shooting. It wasn't the cops that got to him, though:

it was the cops that charged him and threw him in jail.. it was their determination & decision..

Can we agree that it was a team effort? Without any of the 3 parties (the dumbass teenager, the dumbass Canadian, the dumbass cops), none of this would have happened. I still blame Canada, though.

Cops don't browse facebook looking for troublemakers - and once they got that "tip," they probably thought they'd have to do something on the off chance that the kid would actually go on a spree. Just covering their asses...

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RE: better not to be sarcastic - 8/5/2013 11:13:23 PM

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I agree, the stupid aligned itself perfectly.
I can see why the cops felt obligated to look into
it after getting the tip. But arresting the kid, sheesh.

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