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AAkasha -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/7/2013 3:46:56 PM)

I do what makes me hot.



littlewonder -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/7/2013 7:54:25 PM)

No training plan/outline...just a relationship and he does what he wants, when he wants. There's nothing to be trained.



littlewonder -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/7/2013 7:58:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WarMachine904

Jeff,

Mulligan granted!

And excellent reply, and thank you for taking the time to elaborate. That was exactly what I was looking for. My wife and I have a similar arrangement based on our beliefs. I am the Dominant because that's who I am. She is submissive because that's who she is. We have lived that way for 5 years because it works for us. We were brought up kind of old-fashioned like that.


So what's there to train? She's your wife and she obeys you. What is there to work towards other than keeping your relationship strong which seems you both already know how to do?



JeffBC -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/7/2013 9:14:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: myotherself
But hey, if two more ... ahem ... 'mature' kinksters are still kicking around these ideas and learning something new from them, then I think it's a good indication to others that perhaps there isn't one 'twue' way and that dominants don't know all the answers lol

Of COURSE I know all the answers. It's just 80% of what I "know" is wrong. Much to my personal annoyance reality continues to confound me.



myotherself -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/8/2013 12:05:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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ORIGINAL: myotherself
But hey, if two more ... ahem ... 'mature' kinksters are still kicking around these ideas and learning something new from them, then I think it's a good indication to others that perhaps there isn't one 'twue' way and that dominants don't know all the answers lol

Of COURSE I know all the answers. It's just 80% of what I "know" is wrong. Much to my personal annoyance reality continues to confound me.


It's ok Jeff, I'm sure Carol will keep you on the straight and narrow [8D]



WarMachine904 -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 2:53:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC

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Of COURSE I know all the answers.


Jeff,

Your last comment reminded me of a patch I saw for sale:

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quote:

So what's there to train? She's your wife and she obeys you. What is there to work towards other than keeping your relationship strong which seems you both already know how to do?


Little Wonder,

I pretty much listened to my mom growing up, however the Marine Corps taught me a whole new meaning to the word discipline. And that is kind of why I was asking. I apologize if my question doesn't make sense to some, but I am glad that I asked it, and I received some really great advice here.



MasterCaneman -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 7:25:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
Of COURSE I know all the answers. It's just 80% of what I "know" is wrong. Much to my personal annoyance reality continues to confound me.

I nominate this for 'Sunny Quote of The Day'.



KnightofMists -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 11:40:30 AM)

I have a somewhat different perspective than most here on the suspect. It might be because I am a Master of three separate distinct individuals rather than one individual.

Some might think it as simple as just tell them what to do and they do it! It's not that simple. Everyone is an individual and not only are you seeking to facilitate enslavement on multple personalities but you are also seeking to bring them together as a cohesive group.

I have have a process that I bring the girls through. Call it training or whatever. But it is a throughout plan that considers the individuals and my objectives. I can tell you that not everyone can and could succeed this process. But those that come out the other end feel apart if something that is life long. I have three slaves. One has been with me for almost 25 years. The second is over eight years. The third is just over a month into slavehood. With each addition the process has evolved grows and becomes more refined. I learn as they have learned.




WarMachine904 -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 5:52:35 PM)

Knight of Mists,

I was hoping that the discussion would get here at some point, without me directing it. As I posted in the beginning of this thread, boot camp was scientific in design. It was calculated and adhered to a strict training schedule. They use a "training plan" or formula that has be proven to be successful. When you complete the 13 weeks of "chaos and confusion" you feel like you are part of something. There has been a complete physical, mental, and emotional transformation that has occurred over the thirteen weeks, and it stays with you for life. I believe that by having a submissive complete a regimen of specified tasks/activities/etc it gives them the sense that they are earning something valuable and that feeds into their gratification as subs/slaves. When/if you have a formal collaring ceremony, it is then an emotional experience rather than a piece of leather or metal that you picked up at the local kink store.

I agree that the plan needs to be well thought out and specific to the individual sub/slave with some basic common structure.



KnightofMists -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 6:39:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WarMachine904

I believe that by having a submissive complete a regimen of specified tasks/activities/etc it gives them the sense that they are earning something valuable and that feeds into their gratification as subs/slaves. When/if you have a formal collaring ceremony, it is then an emotional experience rather than a piece of leather or metal that you picked up at the local kink store.


Actually... I would say that as you describe or imply gives me a sense that you make it a lot simpler than it really is. If it was easy a lot more would be successful at it. Frankly the failure in this kind of dynamic is staggering and I will not even add those that try to make a poly situation work.

You can have no plan and get their if you have the relationship skills. You will fail miserably if you have a great plan and lack the skills to make it work. Even if you have the plan and the skills you still at best have a fifty fifty chance of success. Have neither and a train wreck is a coming.


Frankly, I have more cofidence in one with the skills and no plan than one with a plan and no skills.





WarMachine904 -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 7:14:58 PM)

I would think that it would be necessary to have those skills in order to come up with a plan that will be effective. If that were not the case, it would be like having the cashier at Quicky Mart developing the plan that the US Marines use for recruit training. It wouldn't work.



KnightofMists -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/13/2013 10:17:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WarMachine904

I would think that it would be necessary to have those skills in order to come up with a plan that will be effective. If that were not the case, it would be like having the cashier at Quicky Mart developing the plan that the US Marines use for recruit training. It wouldn't work.



Mmmmmm no........ Different skill set! Just like you don't need to be a slave to make the plan to train a slave



MasterofSteel -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 3:18:38 AM)

I have a 2-week training program in basic training for girls before they can become a slave in my household, I have made ​​to create stockholm syndrome and obedience, you can see it on my website Basic Traning For Girls

Training schedules can be a really good thing, especially for physical exercise and domestic slave training.
Many doms let their slaves to take care of cleaning and other domestic tasks, and as I see it they lose control of their own household, if you follow a schedule that you have created and slave is trained to do domestic tasks on your manner and at the time you have set aside for it, then you maintain control of your own household, so I would say you can use your military training to make slave training according to



MasterofSteel -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 3:33:42 AM)


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ORIGINAL: WarMachine904

Knight of Mists,

I was hoping that the discussion would get here at some point, without me directing it. As I posted in the beginning of this thread, boot camp was scientific in design. It was calculated and adhered to a strict training schedule. They use a "training plan" or formula that has be proven to be successful. When you complete the 13 weeks of "chaos and confusion" you feel like you are part of something. There has been a complete physical, mental, and emotional transformation that has occurred over the thirteen weeks, and it stays with you for life. I believe that by having a submissive complete a regimen of specified tasks/activities/etc it gives them the sense that they are earning something valuable and that feeds into their gratification as subs/slaves. When/if you have a formal collaring ceremony, it is then an emotional experience rather than a piece of leather or metal that you picked up at the local kink store.

I agree that the plan needs to be well thought out and specific to the individual sub/slave with some basic common structure.



I would recommend you to look at dog training, here there are guidelines for training, and when the dog is well trained then it must be able to perform some specific tasks and you will find no two dogs are exactly alike, yet they can perform the same tasks, it is the same with slaves.



mnottertail -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 11:09:53 AM)

So you were a suck? I was a dogface.



WarMachine904 -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 12:13:44 PM)

Well not exactly....I was a Marine, Leatherneck, or Devil Dog. By the term dogface I am assuming Army soldier, trooper, doughboy, etc.



mnottertail -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 12:32:01 PM)

Yupper, Army. Thats what I said, a Suck

U Suck My Cock.

Semper Fi and all that good shit.

I had a buddy (have a buddy) Jim who is a suck (once a Marine always a Marine...yeah, I know), when he got out, he was a bouncer in some really tough bars....well we both liked to have a beer or two ourselves, and everywhere we would go (not even where he worked many times) that fucker would get me into so many fights.........every fuckin time......anyway, one time and there will be an excluded middle in this, we had some guys pull shotguns on us at a bowling alley bar, and in the end we got em cleaned up, the cops got us drunk, and we got stopped about 4 times on the way home, we were blasted.....and they said, oh...you those guys? Yup, and they said, SAFE HOME, see ya.........



WarMachine904 -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 12:47:34 PM)

I had not heard that one.

Uncle Sam's Misguided Children
or
U Signed (the) Motherfucking Contract


And finally...Ain't Really Marines Yet



mnottertail -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 1:01:43 PM)

LOL.



OsideGirl -> RE: Training Plan for your sub/slave... (8/14/2013 1:22:58 PM)

One of my Navy Corpsmen friends says:

My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment



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