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Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 11:20:46 AM

darkinshadows

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So - it's a play on words - sue me!

A recent discussion I was having today brought up the discussion of watersports. I did a thread search, found lots on health and safety and a bit on general, but they aren't entirely what I was looking for. Lots of personal experience, and the and hows, but I am more interested in what reaction it causes in you.

Is it an act of submission? Is it that ultimate sacrifice a submissive personality makes?

Or is it primal? The urge to mark the territory you own, or be marked?

Or is it humiliation? To take it in the face - the mouth or where ever desired?

Has anyone experienced being urinated in? How and why?

Is it purely mental? Or somewhat physical?

Is it play and you just find it passe?

What does it mean to you? I am not just looking for responses from people who have experienced it either - if you have never experimented in it but have thought about it - why and what does it mean to you? If you find it a hard limit - why is it and what does it mean?

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 11:23:46 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

Is it an act of submission? Is it that ultimate sacrifice a submissive personality makes?

It's submission for me. It really doesn't do ANYTHING for me in any way, although I can understand the how/why of it in terms of fluid transference.

So I'll do it if my partner is into it and enjoy making them happy, but it really does NOTHING to me, good or bad.

quote:

Has anyone experienced being urinated in? How and why?

It's what they were into.

For me it's just another kink on the list. SOme will love it and some will hate it and some could care less.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 11:28:41 AM

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I have experienced watersports once, and my dominant wants me to experience it again (though it's obviously more about his pleasure than mine).

For me, it was an act of submission, and humiliation. There's something distinctly humiliating about being peed on.

I enjoyed it. I enjoy being humiliated, and watersports was just another step toward the ultimate humiliation.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 11:38:16 AM

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I might be willing to engage in watersports to some degree. I have never done so before. It would be something that is a soft limit for me at this point. All my soft limits I am willing to lower for someone that owns me.

It is not a major turn on in my thoughts. There is a certain aspect which I am not willing to share about it that might turn me on because it shows I am owned and it has a little humiliation aspect to it.

The thoughts cause no intense reaction.

Scat play on the other hand IS a hard limit, for health reasons among others.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 11:45:35 AM

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Is it an act of submission? Is it that ultimate sacrifice a submissive personality makes?
To Me it's a act of submission My slave does for Me... It's however Not the Ultimate form of submission a slave may offer or be demanded of...

Or is it primal? The urge to mark the territory you own, or be marked?

It is in part Primal for Me...

Or is it humiliation? To take it in the face - the mouth or where ever desired?

It's also an act of humiliating a slave of Mine which I enjoy...

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 11:57:03 AM

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I was introduced to watersports via an internet/cam friend. It was a total act of submission, and at the time, humiliation. It's difficult for me, still, to urinate in front of someone with any ease so I have to force it. My Dom loves to pee on me, in me, and have me present when he pees... I am a part of the act whenever it is possible. Now, I take great pleasure in it for many reasons... 1) it pleases my Dom to no end, 2) it is the ultimate in intimacy, and 3) it's very "dirty" and socially unacceptable (which I get a huge kick out of). I do other things for similar reasons, and find that the more I do them, the more I enjoy them because of their symbolic nature... much of my submission is mental so that makes sense for me.

Oddly enough, I mentioned this to a male sub friend of mine and at the time it was a soft limit for him... now he begs me, on a daily basis, to find a way to get my Dom to let me pee on him... something about the way I describe it really hit home for him.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 12:50:54 PM

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My reaction depends on how, when and other variables to me. When it is done in a pure humilation way it is probably when I feel the most powerful emotionally which does excite me although not necessarily purely sexual way. It can be also done in a pure domination way where it feels I am being marked or clearly being told who has all the power. When that happens it amps up my sub level quite a bit. Finally when it is done a certain way I think of it as a great sign of devotion to my owner and in all honesty, I get probably too much pride thinking that not many people would do this for them.

To me it is almost all mental and outside of part of a strong emotional scene it does little for me physically but anytime and anyway it is done to me it gets a strong mental reaction for me that I truly love, but at my heart I am much more of a humiliation submissive than a painslut.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 2:22:03 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: darkinshadows

Is it an act of submission? Is it that ultimate sacrifice a submissive personality makes?
Or is it primal? The urge to mark the territory you own, or be marked?
Or is it humiliation? To take it in the face - the mouth or where ever desired?
Has anyone experienced being urinated in? How and why?
Is it purely mental? Or somewhat physical?
Is it play and you just find it passe?

To me yes it is an act of submission and also some humiliation, it is also one of the hugest turn-ons for me. Personally, i take it wherever, on my body, face, in my mouth and have done some work in drinking it as well (admittedly am not proficient at the latter).

To me it is both mental and physical. But as i know you already know, each person's experience is unique to themselves.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 3:00:37 PM

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You know it just hit me- piss has never been anything weird for me. I pee in the shower all the time. I've never had any problems with people being around me when I piss or being around other people when they take a piss. I never got why people were squicked about piss to begin with.

So maybe that's why piss play itself has no real effect on me either way.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 3:07:29 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

You know it just hit me- piss has never been anything weird for me. I pee in the shower all the time. I've never had any problems with people being around me when I piss or being around other people when they take a piss. I never got why people were squicked about piss to begin with.

So maybe that's why piss play itself has no real effect on me either way.

I think people get 'squicked' (what is that?) about piss is because it's such an intimate thing to talk about, like farting.

Everyone does it, we just don't talk about it.

Or maybe a better example than farting would be masturbating. It's just socially unacceptable to talk about. And even worse to do it in front of someone, or on/in someone.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 3:08:36 PM

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Master kids around and says " he pissed on me and claimed me as his". When he first came, we were standing outside and he peed on my foot and played it out. It was kinda just this subtle thing that I really liked. It wasnt erotic but totally intimate and I did feel something inside me being happy about it.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 3:22:49 PM

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This brings back memories. I was working as a technician in a hospital and dating a nurse who happened to be an Arab (just to show that Arabs are kinkier than you think). We had had a bout of good old fashioned sex and I was dozing when I was shook out of my slumbers by a torrent of water. It was this nurse I was dating standing astride of me me and peeing a golden shower all over me. It took me awhile to get to grips with the situation as I was young and still rather green. However, it was a turn on, on reflection and it is still a turn on now. I was too naive to ask her as to why she did it as I was no more than 21 but now I can definitely see the turn on and yes, I now see the turn on. It is more a psychological thing than a physical thing and it only works if you get the right reaction from your partner, which isn't bafflement.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 4:40:35 PM

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My Dom told me, a week or so after our first meeting, that he had desired, that night, to take me into a dark alley and piss all over me before sending me on my way home. I had not submitted to him (though I was seriously entertaining the thought). I think, had he done that, I would have knelt for him right there. For whatever reason, when I think of him desiring to do that (which he later said would have been akin to marking his territory) it gets me very excited.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 6:27:54 PM

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i just recently experienced my first time at drinking pee...it does nothing to me, but i know that He enjoys it so very much so i did it. Luckily for me He drinks tons of water throughout the day so His urine is very diluted. It taked like warm water with a bit of salt. Will i do it again? Yes of course because He likes this. How did it happen? He stood in front of me and told me to take His cock in my mouth and He peed just a little at first...was okay so i asked for more. Again it was okay. No this is not a favorite of mine, but like i said, He enjoys the fact of using my mouth as His piss hole so that is what it will be. Some may feel it is an act of submission and yes it is because you have submitted to Him. He tells me this is another way of marking me...He wants people to know when W/we go out that i am His. It is mental...it took me a very long time to mentally prepare to accept His urine. Hope this answers some of your questions.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 7:00:49 PM

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Good evening all,

To the OP's request for imput from those who have not done this type of play.

I am not opposed to a golden shower, however ingestion is a Hard Limit. I have read about g/s some and think that what I could expect to get out of it is the humiliation factor, not to mention feeling very submissive at the time. I like the thought of him marking his property. I also think I would like the "dirty" factor that afeathr mentions.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 7:52:55 PM

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call me the sick puppy that i am, but i LOVE it. when my Mistress graces me with her golden nectar, it sends me into slave heaven. Perhaps it is the act of submission, or the spiritual aspect of taking in her essence, or receiving the gifts of the Goddess...I'm not sure. but for me it is a HUGE turn on. Mistress loves it too. I can't say why, as I am not her, but I would guess it has something to do with the power she has over me. How I worship her so much that I will beg to drink her in. In any case, it is a deeply intimate connection that I could not possibly begin to put into words.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 8:54:09 PM

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I believe that watersports can be attractive to a submissive in several ways:

1. the humiliation/"dirty"-ness
2. the physical sensation (warmth, taste, smell, etc)
3. the potential for ritual in association with something that we all do every day as a part of our "normal" lives...thus infusing it with meaning both when you are physically with and without your dominant partner
4. the taboo
5. the level of trust it displays (some people cant even "go" within earshot of another person)
6. the physical closeness and intimacy potentially involved
7. the rich variety of metaphors that can be applied to add personal meaning to the act

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 9:56:17 PM

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Ah to lay there as it streams over me, the warm odorous liquid which flows over my body to remain on me, sticky and strong, its scent reminding me of my place for as long as he wishes it on me...typically well into the next day. I come to crave it. In a stressful day to inhale slowly and deeply and know that he is on me, absorbed in my very cells...my mind calms.

To kneel before him, latched on to the source, and wait for the fluid to pour into me. The struggle with its acidity tempting my gag reflexes (he may intentionally avoid water or drinks which dilute). Knowing the intimacy he feels from this act...and left there with a warm belly full as he walks away...

What greater joy than to be the recipient of him. It is my pleasure to receive him in any capacity. I miss it.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 10:17:37 PM

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I have done watersports with alandra. It's really a lame experience. I was motivated to experience it and gave no advance warning to alandra. I walked into the house and brought her to the shower and an attempted to enjoy the experience.

I tried it only to learn what the experience would be like and not that it was particularly a deep desire to enjoy. Even with springing the experience on alandra; she was um bored lol. She was a good girl, did exactly what I wanted without hesitation. When done she showered and continued on with house cleaning. It reminded me of a situation where the woman falls asleep during sex because they are so bored. The energy was just not there. I know of one girl that took months to overcome the ups and downs of the experience and the contrast of the situations was very intriguing to me.

I tried it also with one other girl... interestingly the experience was much different. It pushed some very good buttons for her and thus I was equally gaining pleasure from the experience because I viewed her reaction to be enjoyable. The experience as made me realize that watersports may indeed be something to be enjoyed with the right partner. I also reflect that other activities that I haven't been to much interest in could be avenues of pleasure and growth with the right partner. However, I am conscious of the effect that I can't just draw on another's enjoyment of an activity but contribute my own energy/enjoyment of it.

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RE: Taking the Piss? - 6/29/2006 10:24:10 PM

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The only reason I can imagine pissing on someone is if I truly detested the individual. I just view it as repulsive, unhealthy, and stinky. Blech. Reading this thread has made me understand why someone else might benefit from the activity though. Just not for me.:)

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