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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 11:42:19 AM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		I found that the SPCA here will do it for free if you're low income but they originally wanted a donation of like 15 dollars, and I said she can't afford that there's 12 cats all needing fixed and she is very low income.

She doesn't have internet access, so she wasn't aware of all the programs out there and she was going to her local vet an they wanted like 50 a piece or something, and you know of course the vet wasn't telling her where she could go to get it done free, or lower cost.



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Every place I've ever lived has had a program to fix feral cats for free or minimal costs.



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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 11:43:34 AM   
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I found that the SPCA here will do it for free if you're low income but they originally wanted a donation of like 15 dollars, and I said she can't afford that there's 12 cats all needing fixed and she is very low income.

She doesn't have internet access, so she wasn't aware of all the programs out there and she was going to her local vet an they wanted like 50 a piece or something, and you know of course the vet wasn't telling her where she could go to get it done free, or lower cost.



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Every place I've ever lived has had a program to fix feral cats for free or minimal costs.



So she can afford to feed them but can't afford to get any of them fixed.

I call bullshit.

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 11:46:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am trying very hard to find homes for her cats. It's kind of hard though because it's kitten season and every rescue and shelter out there is swamped. Plus, they're only friendly to her, and scared of everyone else, and a lot of people don't want un friendly cats.
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once she gets all the cats causing this issue rehomed


How is she planning on accomplishing this?



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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 11:53:32 AM   
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You have carpets in your living rooms?



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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 12:25:57 PM   
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Any regular house needs to be damn near gutted to be able to be re-used again. Hope the landlord has good insurance and the eviction goes well.

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 1:18:05 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		do the math, 1 bag of food costs 10 to 20 dollars and will feed all 12 for one low cost, each month, plus good samaritans will donate cat food, but usually will not pony up the cost to go get the cats fixed. 10 times 12 is almost 130 dollars. and she doesn't drive nor have the traps to trap them in, and the SPCA wouldn't come out and get them, or help her get them in. And they want a deposit of 80 bucks for the traps, it's far cheaper to feed them than arrange to pay to have all of them spayed or neutered.
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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I found that the SPCA here will do it for free if you're low income but they originally wanted a donation of like 15 dollars, and I said she can't afford that there's 12 cats all needing fixed and she is very low income.

She doesn't have internet access, so she wasn't aware of all the programs out there and she was going to her local vet an they wanted like 50 a piece or something, and you know of course the vet wasn't telling her where she could go to get it done free, or lower cost.



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ORIGINAL: kalikshama



Every place I've ever lived has had a program to fix feral cats for free or minimal costs.



So she can afford to feed them but can't afford to get any of them fixed.

I call bullshit.



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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 1:24:15 PM   
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do the math, 1 bag of food costs 10 to 20 dollars and will feed all 12 for one low cost, each month, plus good samaritans will donate cat food, but usually will not pony up the cost to go get the cats fixed. 10 times 12 is almost 130 dollars. and she doesn't drive nor have the traps to trap them in, and the SPCA wouldn't come out and get them, or help her get them in. And they want a deposit of 80 bucks for the traps, it's far cheaper to feed them than arrange to pay to have all of them spayed or neutered.
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ORIGINAL: LittleGirlHeart

I found that the SPCA here will do it for free if you're low income but they originally wanted a donation of like 15 dollars, and I said she can't afford that there's 12 cats all needing fixed and she is very low income.

She doesn't have internet access, so she wasn't aware of all the programs out there and she was going to her local vet an they wanted like 50 a piece or something, and you know of course the vet wasn't telling her where she could go to get it done free, or lower cost.



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ORIGINAL: kalikshama



Every place I've ever lived has had a program to fix feral cats for free or minimal costs.



So she can afford to feed them but can't afford to get any of them fixed.

I call bullshit.



So if she was only feeding a few cats instead of a herd, she could get the females spayed one by one.
Wasn't that easy?

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 1:53:53 PM   
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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 5:32:10 PM   
LittleGirlHeart


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Status: offline 		She was, her vet was wanting 50 dollars a piece to spay them, and she was doing it one by one, and they kept getting preggies in between and some died because they got sick, and she didn't know about the lower 10 dollar a piece cost, or the free for ferals program.
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So if she was only feeding a few cats instead of a herd, she could get the females spayed one by one.
Wasn't that easy?



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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 5:47:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		One could also have proper litter boxes.

The suggest one for each cat + one.


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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 6:03:28 PM   
Killerangel


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Status: offline 		Any helpful suggestions seem to be beyond the scope of the OP's friend when it's much easier to make excuses and let multiple cats piss anywhere they like for years. It really ticks me off when people are pet owners and not responsible for the animals under their care. Honestly what kind of life has it been for the cats if they've been living in a piss infested disgusting hell hole? Of course they've been sick and dying, I'm shocked the woman herself has survived. If the woman couldn't afford the cats, she shouldn't have been encouraging them to stick around by feeding them.

I have a friend that has 14 cats. You'd never know it when you enter her home. She gets regular vet care for all of them, and changes litter boxes daily. It can be done.

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 6:07:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		they're all ferals that were dumped or neighbors cats that have been coming over to eat the food she puts out for the ferals, they live outside, and have their babies outside , and only the mom and babies live inside, but they're all getting fixed now, cause i found her a program that will do it for free and James and I are taking her.
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Any helpful suggestions seem to be beyond the scope of the OP's friend when it's much easier to make excuses and let multiple cats piss anywhere they like for years. It really ticks me off when people are pet owners and not responsible for the animals under their care. Honestly what kind of life has it been for the cats if they've been living in a piss infested disgusting hell hole? Of course they've been sick and dying, I'm shocked the woman herself has survived. If the woman couldn't afford the cats, she shouldn't have been encouraging them to stick around by feeding them.

I have a friend that has 14 cats. You'd never know it when you enter her home. She gets regular vet care for all of them, and changes litter boxes daily. It can be done.



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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 6:21:26 PM   
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they're all ferals that were dumped or neighbors cats that have been coming over to eat the food she puts out for the ferals, they live outside, and have their babies outside , and only the mom and babies live inside, but they're all getting fixed now, cause i found her a program that will do it for free and James and I are taking her.
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ORIGINAL: Killerangel

Any helpful suggestions seem to be beyond the scope of the OP's friend when it's much easier to make excuses and let multiple cats piss anywhere they like for years. It really ticks me off when people are pet owners and not responsible for the animals under their care. Honestly what kind of life has it been for the cats if they've been living in a piss infested disgusting hell hole? Of course they've been sick and dying, I'm shocked the woman herself has survived. If the woman couldn't afford the cats, she shouldn't have been encouraging them to stick around by feeding them.

I have a friend that has 14 cats. You'd never know it when you enter her home. She gets regular vet care for all of them, and changes litter boxes daily. It can be done.




I stand by every word that I said. What does it matter if "just" the mom and babies are the ones peeing inside? She's not taking care of them or herself in a healthy manner otherwise why the need for this thread? Even if the cats get fixed they're coming home to a piss infested hell hole where they'll just keep peeing anywhere. What's being done about the urination problem?

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 7:26:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		\ they're all outside cats unless they are pregnant, or have babies.

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 7:28:18 PM   
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\ they're all outside cats unless they are pregnant, or have babies.

So, how did the the house get filled with cat piss?

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 8:27:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		The title of your thread is "RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to get her carpets cleaned professionally." The cat urine smell obviously comes from cat urine, why are there cats peeing in the house? That's unacceptable. Cats don't have to live like that, many people on these boards have cats and their cats use a litter box to relieve themselves into. If not, I don't think many people would have cats. I gave an example of a house with 14 cats in it, and you cannot tell there are any cats in residence when you enter that home as all the cats use litter boxes and the boxes are maintained daily.

Your friend can try as hard as she likes to get the smell out of the carpets, and if she's got cats peeing in the house indiscriminately what good would it do?

Why would her cats use the house as a litter box when they're indoors, is there actually a litter box? Is it maintained? Are there enough litter boxes for the amount of cats that come indoors?

What's the mystery here, the problem doesn't begin and end on the topic of how to get the smell out of the house, it's how to keep it from happening. My point was if that had been taken care of from the start, she wouldn't be in this mess (literally), so to figure out how to get the smell out of the house, she FIRST has to stop it from happening.

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 8:42:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		the ones who had babies came inside till they were old enough to live outside. The non pregnant ones are out door cats.
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So, how did the the house get filled with cat piss?


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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/15/2013 10:58:37 PM   
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So, how did the the house get filled with cat piss?



I suspect the culprit is not cat piss but cat spray. Unfixed male cats and some fixed (I know, I've had one) will spray to mark their territory. With mucho unaltered cats comes mucho spray.

The other option is they are too feral to know about how to use the litter box. I suppose this is possible in a rural enough setting. In that case I don't understand why anyone would feed them indoors, pregnant or not. But then I admit I'm sensitive to smells.

A baby cat can be taught by a human to use the litter box, I've done it.

My 3 cents tonight.

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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/16/2013 12:37:06 AM   
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that is complete bull. I live in England and have carpets throughout most of my house. virtually everyone I know has carpets throughout their houses. although one friend has put laminate down due to having a lot of dogs she says it is no cleaner, it's cold, and wishes she'd stuck to carpets.




Well my family and virtually all my friends have wooden or laminate floors with just carpet in the bedroom. I used to be an estate agent in London and nearly all new builds had wooden or laminate flooring. We used to hate getting houses that had carpet throughout because they were always tougher to sell.

In southern France you won't find carpet even in the bedrooms of most houses.


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RE: her whole house reeks of cat urine and she wants to... - 8/16/2013 3:12:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		well i live in the north. we have tiles in the bathroom.....i have no idea why anyone would want a carpet in a bathroom. but most people still have carpets, as proven by my next door neighbour who owns a carpet fitting shop. business is booming for him.

as to the comments about feeding the stray cats. if you are not prepared to look after them completely then you shouldn't be feeding them. there are far too many strays without encouraging them to breed. what she should have done is call the local authorities to trap them and get them sorted. while the mothers may not have been litter trained the kittens would have been easy to do. i had yard cats that were litter trained for when they had to be inside for anything. it can be done. you can't pick and choose how much responsibility you take for an animal. you are either responsible or not.

cats start their seasons at around 4 months old. mine were in season every three weeks. gestation is 9 weeks, with 6-8 weeks to rear the kittens. that's at least 2-3 litters a year for one cat.

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