naughtynick81
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Muslims have frequently had to deal with discrimination from the airlines. Here is just one example. You call this blatant? lol Firstly, there is no proof that it was done because they were simply muslims. If this was the case, they would be doing this to every muslim. That said, people from every background get pulled aside unfairly all the time and harassed. If you switch on your TV and watch them border security shows, you will see it all the time. It's normal to see this happen to white people all the time. quote:
As for black people, are you blind? Black people frequently face discrimination when applying for loans, renting an apartment or just shopping in an upper class store When people make these wild accusations, they don't stop to realise that they are doing the same type of wrong as what they are complaining about, which is generalising white people and making out most white people are evil racists. This is no better than claiming most black people are evil one way or the other. 99 percent of the time when people whine about blacks/minority races being discriminated against, it's usually fuelled with hyperbole such as what you're displaying here. Yes, racism against blacks does exist, but guess what? It also happens to white people and people from every other race on the planet. No use pointing your finger only when it's white people being the racists which seems to be the trend. People from every other race are just as guilty. No race is more innocent than the other. 90 something percent of blacks voted for Obama in last election. I am not going to generalise and say most votes were due to racism, but there would be racism amongst them votes. quote:
Oklahoma City was NOT a long time ago in a galaxy far far away. Your dismissal on non-Muslim terrorism does not make it magically go away. An FBI study of terrorist attacks on American soil between 1980 and 2005 shows that the vast majority of terrorist attacks are non-Muslin. Please come up with some proof that any other group of people commit more attacks than muslims around the world? I bet you can't! Here, educate your self. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index.html#PriorYears I am confident to bet you every cent in my wallet that you can't come up with any other group that comes even close to committing terrorist attacks at the same rate as muslims in this modern age. quote:
Do you have proof that black people commit more crimes than white people? And don't bother pointing to higher conviction and incarceration rates. Pointing to the results of the justice system disproportionately targeting minorities is not proof. As I said, I never made this as a claim, learn to read. I just simply created a scenario and pointed out that if it was proven that black people committed crimes at a higher rate than white people, would it be given a pass for airlines to treat black people differently based on that? quote:
As a white man my chances of being arrested are less than a black man. So are my chances of conviction. In fact, my whiteness has already benefited me when it comes to run ins with the law. This is nothing more than liberal logical fallacy. It's all based on assumption rather than actual fact, actual proof, actual hard evidence. Similar to pay gap. People have stats while ignoring the big picture behind it. It's easier to just squeal sexism or racism instead of examining the technicalities behind it. You know that other thread I made about academia? Most of the hysteria about racism comes from such sources. It is also again claiming most white cops are evil racists. Just imagine if I was to say most black cops are evil racists after to discriminate whites? It never ceases to amaze me how its so easy to generalise whites/white men without people seeing any discrimination in it whatsoever. But when the tables are turned, BANG, within a split second, OMG racism! quote:
Freedom of speech cuts both ways. If you don't like what you are saying being criticized... don't say it As I've mentioned in here, people are perfectly welcome to openly disagree with me. But what bothers me is when people think I'm not entitled to the opinion. quote:
Also, it is likewise discriminatory to downplay or attempt to invalidate a minority speaking up about issues that affect their group simply because other minorities don't meet with your approval for whatever reason. I don't downplay discrimination against minority groups because some other people from minority groups are evil. I downplay it when I see hyperbole. That's not discriminatory, what's discriminatory is when I punish a whole race from speaking up about their issues because a minority from their race have done evil. quote:
What you fail to realize is that white people (white men in particular) still hold the majority of power in our society and therefore white discrimination and minority discrimination are not on an equal footing. Pointing that out is not being discriminatory against you. Why are they called minority groups again? Could it be that them being the minority means they are the minority of people going for these powerful positions in society? It's not the fault of whites living in this day and age that there are more of them then there are people from minority races. If there are 10 whites and 5 blacks going for the same position, who is more likely to get it? Anyway, I would just like to point out that using whites/white men as scapegoats for other people's failures is a perfect example of anti white/white male discrimination. Of course, whites out there do discriminate people from minority groups. But it's discrimination against whites/white men it's self to use them as a scapegoat every time someone from a minority group fails in getting where they want to be. Whites/white men get rejected jobs all the time. Every day, every minute, every second while the world turns. What is the reason why they get rejected? Could it be for the same reasons why people from minority races get rejected? All in all, white privilege or white male privilege is nothing more than an apex fallacy.
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