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Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 3:16:49 AM   
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Just came across this,
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/jason-patric-ill-fight-til-dead-son/story?id=19981136

Jason Patric is best known as the star of "The Lost Boys," a prince of Hollywood who has dated some of the most glamorous starlets of the past two decades.

But it's his role as a father that has most recently launched public scrutiny into some of the most private aspects of his life.

Watch the full story on "20/20: Famous Parents, Famous Problems" TONIGHT at 10 p.m. ET.

The trouble began three years ago, when his former girlfriend, Danielle Schreiber, asked him to help conceive a baby.

"I've been in a lot of relationships," Patric said in an interview with "20/20" anchor David Muir. "I was always worried about having a child. ... But I was with someone, and I was at a certain age, [with] someone that I trusted and I loved. And so I said, 'Well, we can try this route.'"

A year later, their son, Gus, was born through the miracle of in vitro fertilization.

For the next two years, Patric said, he was at the house every day.

"Absolutely," he said. "I play music. I scratch his back. I help him articulate his fingers. I speak Shakespeare into his ear, 'cause I think that he should know that one day."

But while the love for his son only grew, the relationship between Patric and Schreiber grew strained.

Patric had every intention that his parenting relationship with Gus would continue, he said.

"Of course. I mean, it's not just me," Patric said. "The two most important words in a child -- the two most important visions, ideas -- are Mama and Dada. It means safety, support, food, love. That's there. I mean, that was always going to be the case." But, Patric said, when he filed for joint custody, he discovered something shocking.

"My lawyer said to me, 'They're saying you're not the father.' And I said, 'What?'" Patric said, laughing. "'You're not the father.'" In California, a sperm donor has no paternity rights. Without a marriage or a written agreement with Schreiber, Patric was not the father in the eyes of the state.

Asked if he ever said he would help but didn't want to be the child's father, Patric said, "No."

He never would have agreed to participate in IVF had he known Schreiber might not have wanted him to be the father, he added. "I was going to be the 'intended parent,' as that says [on the IVF forms, which Patric brought to the interview]," he said. "The word parent, if you look in the dictionary, means, 'to beget birth, nourish or raise a child.' And that was my intention."

Patric provided videos showing him in a normal father role: Gus' first haircut, a birthday party, the moment when Gus recognizes Patric's photo on a Playbill.

And he recounted a Christmas card from Schreiber.

"In her handwriting," Patric read, "'Jason, I love you more than anything. What else can I say? You've done everything.' Then for Gus, 'Dada, thank you for teaching me to pee in the toilet, watch airplanes, learn Beatles songs. I love you, Dada. Gus.' There's nowhere in that card where it says, 'I love you, sperm donor.'"

But Schreiber has said Patric never intended to be a father because he insisted that his sperm donation remain anonymous. In a statement, Schreiber said, "I allowed Patric to have contact with my son while we were dating. And even then he insisted that I keep his donation a secret and uphold our original agreement."

There is more at the site mentioned above.
I have to admit, that I want to hear from the woman, they agreed he would be the donor in IVF, Hes been part of the boys life since birth, but he cant get shared custody, because he is "just a donor" and has no parental rights, according to the law.
This shows a HUGE hole in legislation as far as Im concerned, he was active in the procedure, the pregnancy and the birth, and now shes using his agreement to stop his participation. Something stinks here,
A) the law, which I CAN understand when its used anonymously, but in this case, Im having trouble with it.
B) is she using it against him maliciously? has he given her good reason? I certainly want more information from her and him before making up my mind*for what its actually worth*
On the face of it tho, its not like he has been an absent most of the boys life, and its not an isolated case. Something in the law needs to be changed in cases like this.
Changing your mind to be a cunt(either parent) is one thing, this is not fair to Jason or the boy.

what think you?

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 3:24:26 AM   
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Sounds just like those people that adopt legally and in good faith...raise the child from practically birth for 10 or more years, then the courts take them away on some technicality...It's all just stupid.

I don't know how they can say that man is not the parent of that boy with all of that evidence. That boy will probably grow up resenting her if she keeps them apart

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 3:42:41 AM   
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Changing your mind to be a cunt is one thing...

At this point, I'd just label her a bitch. But if she started asking for money...

Really, it's the same old story. For whatever reason, the parental rights of the father are usually considered secondary to the mother's. There's more than one law that should be changed.

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 3:54:27 AM   
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The petulant demands for money like a child demanding candy or toys are coming. Really, who ever heard of Danielle Schreiber before this? Jason Patric, on the other hand, is quite well known and would make a fantastic cash cow.

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 3:59:54 AM   
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yeah a lot of projecting here, she could have done this three years ago...
theres three sides to this story.



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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 5:13:20 AM   
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Yes. The absence of a reason for the falling out between the parents leaves me with more questions than answers. So I'd really like to hear her side of the story before forming any conclusions.

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 6:45:08 AM   
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Sounds like he's a total dummy, signing away his rights like he did. Sounds like his gf is using blocking access to his son as a weapon.

His wikipedia bio states that he's been with his gf on and off for ten years. At the time of conception, he literally was nothing more than a sperm donor, and subsequently decided to have a part in his son's life.

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 8:54:39 AM   
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quote:

Sounds like he's a total dummy


I agree with this assessment.

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 9:29:34 AM   
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If (as she asserts) he did insist that his "donation" remain anonymous.. then why did he do that? to me that is pretty telling (if its actually true).. just cuz he has some mementos from his time with the girlfriend & kid doesn't mean he intended to be a daddy when the kid was IVFd.. He sounds sorta weird to me, like one of those non-committal (sleazy?) guys that dont want to buy the cow when they can get the milk for free... and I question if his original intent was to be a "daddy" like he claims.. but rather the idea grew on him and now he wants what he (might have) said he didn't want originally.. after all, he states "I was always worried about having a child".. did they even live together?.. from the article I don't think so, cuz it says for the next 2 years he "was at the house every day".. whose house? hers?

And it sounds to me like she doesn't need his money and can afford a dam good lawyer that has found a way to get him out of their life.. (I am not saying I would do that if he was a good father, especially since the kid is a boy and imo boys need a good father, if that is possible)

California is one of those states that has some strict laws.. like a surrogate there can not change her mind and legally keep a baby she had for someone else.. in other states the "bio parents" have considerably less rights & its much more risky..

eta- there is nothing in the article about him providing any financial support to her for the kid, who paid for the IVF? her? him? both? who paid for all the kid stuff, diapers, baby food, etc etc? If he didn't contribute a dime (& if he had I expect he would have mentioned that in the article with receipts to back it up).. then what does that say about him and his daddy claim?

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 9:44:51 AM   
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First off she can't legally ask him for any money or support.
The bill that terminates his parental rights also protects him
from having to pay child support.

Her attorney says he made it clear before the child was
conceived that he did not want to be a father and it was
only after they broke up that he demanded 50/50 custody.
A bill in 2011 was passed to protect fathers parental rights
in cases like this. All he had to do was put in writing his
intention of being in the child's life and accepting the legal
responsibilities there of. While people want to speculate the
mother is being a bitch it can just as readily be speculated
that he's doing this to annoy her. Obviously, it would be great
if they could work it out peacefully and the child could have
two loving parents.


Someone brought up adoption cases where children are
taken from adoptive parents and returned to biological
parents. I don't know of any cases where this happened
with children as old as ten who had been with their
adoptive parents since birth in the US. There were two
famous cases in the 90's (I think) where the children
were four or five. In both cases they were returned to
their biological parents because the biological fathers
hadn't agreed to legally terminate their parental rights.
In both cases I believe neither father was aware that
they had children til after the mothers had placed them
for adoption (private adoptions). In the US the law is
both biological parents have to waive their rights or have
their rights legally terminated for an adoption to be legal.

In the Patric case they were bringing up he had spent time
with the child. In many open adoptions these biological
parents often spend time with the children they placed for
adoption. But they have no legal rights where the children
are concerned. The adopted parents are the child's legal
parents. This also happens with donor fathers and mothers.
But again they have no legal right to see the children.
It is up to their legal parent or parents to decide whether
they are allowed contact. If there is a written agreement
made before the conception between the donor and the other
parent the donor will be legally recognized as having that
right.

I find it very hard to believe Jason Patric wasn't made aware
of this. I don't see how legally it could not have been explained
to him prior to the donation and conception. If it had been
and it was put into writing I don't see what would have
prevented him from being named as the child's father
on the birth certificate. Or what would have kept him from
announcing he was the child's father publicly when he was
born. Not that publicly declaring himself the father would
carry any legal weight. But it would say something about the
couples original agreement and intentions towards parenting
the child.

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RE: Jason Patric and his son? - 8/17/2013 9:52:07 AM   
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Patric chose to leave his name off the birth certificate. All you can say when it goes to shit after that is, "what a dumbass."

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