Hey Grampaw, what's for supper?

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Hillwilliam -> Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 6:51:01 AM)
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ARIES83 -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 7:41:02 AM)
I would actually like to see this type thing on a larger scale. If they can make hamburgers out of soy beans... I can't see it being to much more difficult to turn larva into something resembling meat. And this would have to be a more productive source of protein compared to the same space and reasources of any other animal farming enterprise. If they turned the larva into good tasting hamburgers, nuggets, snitchels and the like... And this method translated into cheaper production... Right now say a pack of chicken nuggets are $10, If there were pack of 'larva chicken nuggets' next to it, which tasted the same for $2 I'd be very tempted to give them a go.

MasterCaneman -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 3:40:39 PM)
I remember eating grasshoppers during wilderness survival school. Done right, they taste just like...grasshoppers. Not bad if you're hungry and Tabasco helps if you got it. But it'll take a major sea-change in perception before people feel okay about ordering a "McMaggot" or a "Big Grubber". Then again, we don't seem to have a problem wit artropods like lobster and crab. I'm still in deep shit for reminding my arachnophobic GF that they're related to spider and scorpions.

MistressDarkArt -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 4:07:58 PM)
I've got plenty of ants on my counter. Not sure why since there is nothing to eat there. Perhaps they are advertising that they are willing to be eaten. Seriously, is anyone else having trouble with indoor ant infestations this summer? My neighbors and I are overwhelmed with them. Orange and cinnamon essential oil mixed with water in a spray bottle confuses their pheramone activity and shuts 'em down for a while. Smells nice too, at least to us.

MasterCaneman -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 4:31:44 PM)
I use mint oil in a wee spritzer bottle. Works on mice, too. I've heard that toasted ants are supposed to be an acceptable sugar substitute, but they keep escaping through the slots on top.

punisher440 -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 4:36:49 PM)
I've had a ant problem earlier but the sugar water/borax poison I put out finally seemed to thin them out. I was told the wetter than normal spring/early summer forced the ants to search for food in drier climates[like your house]. As far as eating bugs and other assorted crawling things, I think I'll stick with the occasional wild meat like rattlesnake,fish,deer,racoon and a few other warm blooded creatures if I want something exotic to eat.I'll save the grubs and bugs to use for fishing bait....[sm=lol.gif]

MistressDarkArt -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 4:46:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: punisher440 I was told the wetter than normal spring/early summer forced the ants to search for food in drier climates[like your house]. Heh, we had one of the driest years on record here. I thought they were coming in because they were thirsty.

MistressDarkArt -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 4:48:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman I use mint oil in a wee spritzer bottle. I've got peppermint EO (essential oil). Think that'll work?

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/20/2013 5:40:27 PM)
It depends on the EO, not all them are safe to use for cooking. What does the label say? Many are safe to use and can be an interesting addition to your 'spice' repertoire.

MasterCaneman -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/21/2013 7:53:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman I use mint oil in a wee spritzer bottle. I've got peppermint EO (essential oil). Think that'll work? Yes it will. I use one of those spritzer bottles snore medicine came in, but any that only dispenses a quick blast will do. One shot in each corner and the middle seems to do the trick.

MistressDarkArt -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/21/2013 11:46:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt It depends on the EO, not all them are safe to use for cooking. What does the label say? Many are safe to use and can be an interesting addition to your 'spice' repertoire. I don't plan on ingesting the EO, since I will not be licking the counters or eating the ants. And yes, I agree that some EOs make wonderful additions to food and drink. I use peppermint, orange, grapefruit, cinnamon, lavender and lime quite often in recipes :-)

LookieNoNookie -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/21/2013 3:39:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam http://shopping.yahoo.com/news/farm-432---insect-breeding-on-your-kitchen-counter-214732341.html Read it....don't get it....

igor2003 -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/21/2013 4:11:46 PM)
--FR-- If it came down to substituting grubs for poultry or beef...I'd turn vegetarian. For those with an ant problem...I can't swear to this since I've never tried it, but in doing a bit of research recently on the subject of invading ants (my mother had had a problem, but by the time I heard about it the problem was over) I either read an article or viewed a video (I looked at a lot of stuff at the time) which said to take about a cup of un-popped popcorn kernels and grind them up to a fine meal in a food processor, then place several small piles of the corn meal around the problem area, and the ants will be gone in a few days. So, if anyone tries it and it actually works, I'd love to hear about it.

MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/21/2013 5:07:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman I remember eating grasshoppers during wilderness survival school. SERE training or did someone dare you to do it?

MasterCaneman -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/22/2013 6:30:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MalcolmNathaniel quote: ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman I remember eating grasshoppers during wilderness survival school. SERE training or did someone dare you to do it? Believe it or not, it was an alternative science class in high school. The course title was "Utah Wildlife and Survival", and they offered it because it was very easy to get into major trouble out there behind the Zion Curtain. The first half of the year was kind of boring, learning about the flora and fauna of the state, but mid-year we started gearing up for the fun part. The teacher taught us how to find water in the desert, how to rig traps, hygiene, and building our own survival kits. The culmination of the class was a three-day campout in the desert under the tutelage of him and a couple of former USAF and USMC survival instructors. We learned how to make fire using stuff we found in the wild, how to work flint into hand axes, knives, and speartips, and how to keep from freezing to death without a sleeping bag. Utah could be a very harsh place outside civilization. Every year, people would die because they lacked the basics of how to keep full, warm, and dry when they needed to. My old school offered the course because a few years before, a couple of students were out four-wheeling and got stranded and died. Later on, when I was in the reserves, 96th ARCOM sent me to one of their classes on it for the same reasons.

Duskypearls -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/22/2013 6:42:44 AM)
I wonder if plain ole corn meal might be effective and easier.

theshytype -> RE: Hey Grampaw, what's for supper? (8/22/2013 11:37:33 AM)
I think creating this now is a great idea. I'm not going to rush out and start nibbling on insect anytime soon, but it's great to get people used to the concept and to make it more readily available for if and when it is needed. I have watched a few food travel shows that have shown various insects available at street vendors. There have been a few times that the insects on a stick actually looked tasty. I'd try it at least once (provided it was dead, crisped, and seasoned).

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