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Rochsub2009 -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 11:42:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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If yours doesn't stand out, no, she probably won't look at your profile


But her's doesn't have to be all super duper and above the capability that the average person can do.

I have a problem with the chauvinism in that.



You're joking, right? If not, then you probably don't get many dates.

The reality is that men have historically had to work/compete for the attention of women. Why do you think we pay for dates? Why do you think we buy them flowers? Why do we take them to expensive restaurants? You can call it chauvinistic if you want, but that's the way things are.

Sure, there is the occasional woman who has a more egalitarian view of things. But for the most part, men compete for the attention of women, and then we have to work to maintain it. You can complain about it, or fight the system, but that's probably not going to accomplish much except keep you alone and celibate.

But good luck in your fight. Once you get tired of being lonely, maybe you'll take our advice and make your profile above average (regardless of whether you think it's "chauvinistic" or not).





MistressDarkArt -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 1:06:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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If yours doesn't stand out, no, she probably won't look at your profile


But her's doesn't have to be all super duper and above the capability that the average person can do.

I have a problem with the chauvinism in that.



You're joking, right?



I doubt nick's joking, but he can (and certainly will) pipe up if I'm wrong. One thing we can count on from this poster is consistency aka 'one trick pony.'

Back to the OP: there is someone out there for everyone. Be the best person you can be, for the sheer good of it and the universe will respond in kind. You've made changes to your profile that should help you in your quest, and that shows you are willing to learn about your target audience and serious about doing what's needed to get what you want. Good on you.




LadyPact -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 2:19:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81
But her's doesn't have to be all super duper and above the capability that the average person can do.

I have a problem with the chauvinism in that.

The way it goes, a woman's worth is her existence, a man's worth is being above average.

There's a solution for this. Don't write to those who have profiles that you deem as average or less that average. Nobody said that you can't hold women to the same standard that you think women have for males.





seekingreality -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 2:21:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: friendsub17

even if she doesnt contact right away, and does she consider the profile
for a while before she sends a message


It's pretty rare for a mistress to contact me after seeing my profile. Happens, but not much. If I write a mistress, she will generally take a look at my profile. If she is going to write back that usually happens immediately, or within a day or two. But on occasion it has taken weeks or even months.

Some domes here receive dozens or hundreds of letters a day. So the quality of your initial letter will determine whether they bother to look at your profile. If the first impression of your profile turns them (you post an offensive photo, live too far away, or your first line is fully of spelling errors) they likely won't read the rest of your profile.

I glanced at your profile. It hardly says anything, so I doubt any woman who came upon it would write to you.




seekingreality -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 2:31:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

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If yours doesn't stand out, no, she probably won't look at your profile


But her's doesn't have to be all super duper and above the capability that the average person can do.

I have a problem with the chauvinism in that.

The way it goes, a woman's worth is her existence, a man's worth is being above average.



I think it's more accurate to say there are more men online looking for women than the other way around, and men are more likely to cast their net widely. Some men will write to a woman with a blank profile just to explore what happens -- a shotgun approach. So women have the opposite problem of men. While many men are merely seeking any response, women tend to want fewer but better responses. So, yeah, most of them put as much effort into their profiles as men -- but their goal isn't usually to "stand out" as much as to define who they are and what they are looking for, to try to reduce the number of undesirable responses.

Or sometimes women put less just so that men won't merely write what they think she wants to here. Again, it's about winnowing.

Men are selling; women are buying. And buyers don't have to work as hard.

But that's just the upfront stuff. Ultimately, the man has to select the woman as much as the woman selects the man.

Men are shotgunning it; women are laser-beaming it.




HarryVanWinkle -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 4:48:10 PM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

How is that chauvinistic?

As chauvinistic it is to expect a man to appear to have these superior traits while you don't your self. You don't feel the need to make the same level of effort as him because being a woman covers that in the books of plenty on here as it appears.

Take a look at your profile for example. It's very average. But considering the trend, a man has to make a profile more sparkling than yours to get your interest.


Nick, you've been whining here about the advantages of women and disadvantages of men for over four years now. Don't you ever get tired of listening to yourself?

Life is unfair. You can spend your life whining about it and have no life, or you can get a life and learn to live with it.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 7:38:27 PM)

Harry, by golly, your post above just gave me an idea.

Nick, dear, why don't you become a woman? Folks do it every day! Then you'll be able to enjoy all your perceived fabulous benefits of our gender, and you won't even get periods or pregnant and your inbox will be overflowing with ridiculous, bitter, repetitive, whining mails from guys just like you used to be!! Isn't that just the best?!





MistressDarkArt -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/21/2013 7:39:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: seekingreality

Men are shotgunning it; women are laser-beaming it.


Love this! ^^^ QFT!!




Englishrose24 -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 5:36:52 AM)


A man has to make more effort on any site full stop. Lol
Submissive or dominant.
That's life.


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

How is that chauvinistic?

As chauvinistic it is to expect a man to appear to have these superior traits while you don't your self. You don't feel the need to make the same level of effort as him because being a woman covers that in the books of plenty on here as it appears.

Take a look at your profile for example. It's very average. But considering the trend, a man has to make a profile more sparkling than yours to get your interest.





DarkSteven -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 5:53:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Englishrose24

A man has to make more effort on any site full stop. Lol
Submissive or dominant.
That's life.




From a man's POV, the bad part is that we have to put forth effort. The good part is that we get to choose who we contact. I'd rather have to initiate contact than have to wade through dozens of messages from incompatible people, and reject them.




Zonie63 -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 6:39:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: Englishrose24

A man has to make more effort on any site full stop. Lol
Submissive or dominant.
That's life.




From a man's POV, the bad part is that we have to put forth effort. The good part is that we get to choose who we contact. I'd rather have to initiate contact than have to wade through dozens of messages from incompatible people, and reject them.


Now that I think about it, having to wade through dozens of messages would seem to be quite a bit of effort, too. My sense is that a lot of those messages may go unread and might be mass deleted just to clean out one's mailbox, even if there might be one or two good ones in there. So, even if one tries to make an effort and stand out, it still might not be good enough, just because of the sheer volume of e-mails. It's like standing in a crowd full of idiots. Even if you try to stand out and set yourself apart, they're still there, just as loud and obnoxious as ever.




Englishrose24 -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 7:12:03 AM)

Interesting

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


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ORIGINAL: Englishrose24

A man has to make more effort on any site full stop. Lol
Submissive or dominant.
That's life.




From a man's POV, the bad part is that we have to put forth effort. The good part is that we get to choose who we contact. I'd rather have to initiate contact than have to wade through dozens of messages from incompatible people, and reject them.





MistressDarkArt -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 11:51:49 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Zonie63

My sense is that a lot of those messages may go unread and might be mass deleted just to clean out one's mailbox, even if there might be one or two good ones in there. So, even if one tries to make an effort and stand out, it still might not be good enough, just because of the sheer volume of e-mails.


Back when I first joined, was 'fresh meat' and actually looking, my inbox and bulk box was exactly as you described. The hover feature worked very nicely for eliminating all the crap replies while not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It was easy to identify the 'hi', 'i beg to serve you mistress', 'will you crap in my mouth', etc...in the first few words, block and delete.

The lesson is: make those first few words count! Greet and include the screen name of the person you're writing to, start with a question about something vanilla in their profile, include a G-rated picture so the recipient can put a 'face' with the 'type' (even if you can't use an easily identifiable face picture).




searching4mysir -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 12:20:56 PM)

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But her's doesn't have to be all super duper and above the capability that the average person can do.


Most women don't need to go to the internet to get laid, Nick. Masturbation is usually far more satisfying than being with someone who doesn't really give a shit about you except as a kink-provider.




searching4mysir -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 12:23:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81

I guess a female sub that doesn't have a pic of her making a sandwich wouldn't cut it.


When I was searching, while I didn't have a picture of me cooking, I did make a mention of it in my profile. Not one of my pictures was anything but fully clothed and vanilla.




MistressDarkArt -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 12:56:11 PM)

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

Most women don't need to go to the internet to get laid, Nick. Masturbation is usually far more satisfying than being with someone who doesn't really give a shit about you except as a kink-provider.


And I posit that's what pisses him off no end. That's why I suggested he transition to womanhood so he could quit bitching about the horrible unfairness of it all and enjoy the perceived 'benefits'. I noticed he hasn't replied since I made the suggestion; perhaps his internet privileges have been revoked again.




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 4:24:22 PM)

There is a lot of advice here .. so as a sub male ... all I will add is personal experience on Collar Me ....

submissive men, should NEVER post a Profile and expect Women to read and contact them .... you will NEVER get a response .... unless you FIRST make the effort to interest Her!

That means reading Her Profile, writing Her an email , that hits the key points in HER profile ... and explaining HOW you might compliment and enhance HER life!

This means a lot of LITTLE things ... like HOW you write Your Profile ... READING HER profile and composing your direct EMAIL TO Her! And when you do this, your email better be WELL Written and REALLY pique HER interest.

Then they DO look at your profile ... well over 50% LOOK!

It may surprise you to learn but I KNOW a few Domme's from Collar ME, including some from the boards, personally, just using the technique i outlined.

But I ALSO include a picture of myself in my initial email ... and NEVER anticipate more than a 20 - 25 per cent response rate.


Bet that Response Rate is WAY higher than yours.

Regards




naughtynick81 -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 5:32:29 PM)

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Masturbation is usually far more satisfying than being with someone who doesn't really give a shit about you except as a kink-provider.


Nooo, that's not having a prejudiced attitude against men.


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And I posit that's what pisses him off no end. That's why I suggested he transition to womanhood so he could quit bitching about the horrible unfairness of it all and enjoy the perceived 'benefits'. I noticed he hasn't replied since I made the suggestion; perhaps his internet privileges have been revoked again.


So I guess women who complain about female disadvantages, I can tell them to shut the hell up and turn into a man? I guess that wouldn't go well if I wanted to be socially accepted heh. But when it's the other way around, well you know, double standards as always.

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I noticed he hasn't replied since I made the suggestion; perhaps his internet privileges have been revoked again.


Not at all. I mostly don't bother wasting my time on most of these replies to my posts as these people are trying to justify why women should be considered more worthy than men. When people have such simplistic and beyond stupid mentalities, it's pointless trying to be reasonable with them. You can't cure stupid.




LadyPact -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 5:58:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: naughtynick81
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Masturbation is usually far more satisfying than being with someone who doesn't really give a shit about you except as a kink-provider.


Nooo, that's not having a prejudiced attitude against men.

Actually, it's not. There are a number of folks who prefer masturbation rather than engage in casual sex and/or play. Some people feel very cold and empty if there is no emotional attachment present. That's why some people keep themselves in the "only in a relationship" category.

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By the way, out of fourteen pics here, five of them are play shots. Three of those shots are from two separate presentations. In other words, stuff that I do that I bring to the table. (Close enough to the D-side equivalent to making a sandwich.) If I can do that, what's the problem with the s-side doing it?









Oneechan -> RE: will a mistress read my profile (8/22/2013 6:03:43 PM)

couldn't someone kindly send him one of those helpful links about making a good profile? x




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