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khamar -> HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/20/2013 9:18:57 PM)

This is something which really tortures me...Iam from Indian a male dominated nation...I have tried telling some prostitues about this but they usually laugh out loud and leave me...forever..Iam totally devastated plz..help me for how to break the ICE and let the girl know that its good and bring out her dominant side..plz plz help me.




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/20/2013 9:40:06 PM)

Well, part of your problem is telling prostitutes and expecting them to react as a girlfriend.

You have two choices - find a woman who already identifies as dominant to date, or find a woman you want to date, and tell her about it. The weirder you make it sound, the more focus you put on it, the more chances of her freaking out. Which sounds scarier?

-'I have a fantasy about you tying my wrists to the bed and having sex with me'
-'I want to be your total sex slave and be kept in chains and abused all the time and forced to do bad things'

Just start out light, back off if she's not interested, and most importantly, make sure you are listening to what SHE wants and giving her plenty of that. Many women will indulge your fantasies if you also indulge theirs and make them feel cared for.




TigressLily -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/20/2013 10:22:13 PM)

Khamar, India is no different than many other Asian countries where service-oriented behavior is perfectly acceptable. If there is a woman who interests you, you must court her. To do otherwise is disrespectful. During this courtship process, a man's servile posture towards a woman, and his unfaltering eagerness to please demonstrates his sincere intent. You know as well as I do that you cannot simply expect to have sex with an Asian woman unless she is already some sort of sex worker. An Asian woman is always looking for husband material, not some sordid clandestine affair. You can easily tell, unless the female who interests you is still a girl, from how bossy she acts to others including yourself whether she has a dominant personality. Due to your country's ingrained, hierarchical class/caste system, this is a simple undertaking. There is no guarantee that it will transfer over into the bedroom, however.

I agree that you should ease into this subject matter delicately so as not to scare off a potential mate, or cause her to lose respect for you as not being manly enough to be an effective protector and provider. My suggestion would be for you to loosen your own social constraints first and choose a woman of a slightly lower caste than yourself who might secretly enjoy wielding more power than her station would ordinarily allow, or find a disenfranchised widow whom you can befriend and gain her trust. When she sees that you mean no harm and that your intentions are honorable, she may be more willing and receptive to accommodate your wishes. You may have to show your inexperienced partner how to dominate you. Non-sexually at first. Slowly incorporate more erotic elements, but in a non-threatening improvisational manner. If she discovers that this is sexually arousing to her at some point, then perhaps the two of you can become more intimate as your relationship unfolds. Be creative, boy!




MistressDarkArt -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/21/2013 12:44:03 AM)

^^^[sm=goodpost.gif] Excellent first post!

[sm=welcome.gif] TigressLily




DarkSteven -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/21/2013 5:03:42 AM)

khamar, you made one post and then left. Perhaps you were just getting something off your chest?

Your post doesn't make it clear what you're looking for. If it's a complete femDom relationship, then TigressLily's post is spot on. If you want a woman to be vanilla except in the bedroom, and top you there, then you need to meet a vanilla woman. Before you two get attached but after both of you see there's a possible connection, mention that you like it when a woman takes the lead in bed. Or ask what her fantasies are, and work in the fact that you'd like to try rope and perhaps some light spanking (even of you want a hard spanking, that's harder to get acceptance for).

In the US, going to prostitutes will turn off a bunch of prospective female partners - I don't know how that would work in India.

khamar and TigressLily, [sm=welcomewave.gif] to the forums!




LookieNoNookie -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/21/2013 3:52:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: khamar

This is something which really tortures me...Iam from Indian a male dominated nation...I have tried telling some prostitues about this but they usually laugh out loud and leave me...forever..Iam totally devastated plz..help me for how to break the ICE and let the girl know that its good and bring out her dominant side..plz plz help me.


For 300 bucks....I wouldn't laugh at you (unless of course that was your gig).

I'd take 250.

(But, at that price, I would laugh at you).

210 bucks...I'd invite friends.




TigressLily -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/21/2013 10:07:28 PM)

Thank you for the warm welcome, MistressDarkArt. Since I am new to this, I don't know whether I'm allowed to reply to my own reply! But here goes--Part B. This is such a HUGE issue. I would say complex, but I don't believe it has to be as complicated as some of you male subs have made it. First of all, many of you who claim to be subs aren't genuine submissives. You just want the convenience of being Topped whenever it suits your particular mood (i.e. horniness). You may not be an actual slave or have a slave mentality per se, however, you have become enslaved by your desire nature to gratifying certain kinks and/or fetishes. Then you whine about how your vanilla Significant Other wouldn't understand, or will no longer respect you, so you have to seek your gratification elsewhere. Believe me, that is the least of your concerns. She's already losing or lost respect for you due to your sneaky behavior and lack of integrity she's detected.

I have one male sub friend who complained his wife wasn't interested in having kinky sex. Once she got upset that after a week straight of using a dildo on him, he didn't get sore like she expected him to. Her plan for him to get this kink out of his system had backfired on her, she later admitted. I told him he was lucky he had a wife who would even agree to do this for him to begin with. Some of you males are so fixated by one aspect of the sexual spectrum that you have tunnel vision which ends up ruining any type of intimate relationship you enter into. For example, I was once married to a man who had an unhealthy fixation on cuckolding. I didn't know what the hell was wrong with him until much later in life. Long after I had divorced him, for a number of different reasons. He had no business hooking up with and then marrying a woman who was totally monogamous, who was so possessive herself that she once tattooed over the name of a former girlfriend he had been idiotic enough to tattoo on his body because he kept dragging his feet on having it covered over professionally. (We were really young and wasted at the time, if that's a viable excuse to do something foolish that could have risked blood poisoning.) I wish he would have kept this cuckolding fixation to himself because his relentless hounding drove an irreparable wedge between us. It was as if he wanted to pimp me out to other men. Deal breaker. And I am by no means prudish or sexually inhibited but I am a one-man woman, so I can see both sides of the equation.

Let me leave you angst-ridden men with a word of advice. Besides the usual giving of plenty of foot & full-body massages and NSA offers to perform oral sex, OTK spanking is the vanilla gateway. There isn't a man alive who doesn't do something thoughtless, inconsiderate or just downright stupid that pisses off his SO on a fairly regular basis. Better for you to contritely offer to be disciplined than to endure the silent treatment or withholding of intimate relations. No wife/girlfriend wants to have sex with or give access of her body to a man she's upset with! Give her a way to teach you a lesson. Even little old church-going ladies want to employ this device on men of all ages, the workman who tracks dirt onto her freshly waxed floor or dirties up her guest towels, etc. Get a wide oval wooden hairbrush and keep it on hand. This is also an incredibly physically intimate activity, many men will get an erection or even ejaculate from it, and at some point this will also arouse your partner. She may want to make it a weekly routine. Offer to show her your appreciation afterward and then take it from there. Bon chance!

P.S. I didn't see the other posts until just now. DarkStephen, you make some good points.




khamar -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/23/2013 9:37:25 AM)

Thank you very very much....all of you..for your very kind..and ofcourse..very important advises..actually the reason why I was away for so long is ...I thot lyk all the othe fetish dating sites this 1 too is an unused and ..a misleading 1 ..bt my my nt only Im surprised im totally. .clear about how to go next..thanx to mistress
TigressLily


For your very kind opinions looking forward on working out upon all of themm..!!

and sori for being this late in my rply..




khamar -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/23/2013 9:45:39 AM)

Perhaps..still 1 more thing ..i wanted to ask..upon..is..in all some of those BDSM movies where..a lot of whipping and caning is involved with the blood shed too...is that too a part of the fantasy..or the fetish behaviour.???or is it that the mistress are that cruel...????and the cbt's can a man ever recover from the damage made..??




jola37 -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/23/2013 11:19:19 AM)

Hi kahmar

It's about the levels you want. Some people like a light whipping, some medium and some heavy. There doesn't have to be blood or even marks, it's about what you feel comfortable with. I think also quite often, the blood/cuts are a result of wanting to be beaten that heavily, rather than wanting to actually be cut, if that makes sense.

All the best here and like a few people have said, take your time.

And also to echo a few others, awesome post TigressLily.




DarkSteven -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/23/2013 11:30:27 AM)

Dude, porn is NOT reality. Porn shows what people want to see and will pay for., not what the participants want.

You and your Domme will work out between you what will happen.




khamar -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/30/2013 10:27:07 AM)

hi..Im really thankfull to every 1 it really worked finally found out a lady with a dominating fantasy too...nd we've already started the sessions its a gr8 fun sadly she's a widow bt doesnt really matter its rather more safe nd Im thank full to every 1 nd specially
Mistress TigressLily aftr all it was her idea too..
Im also thnk full to MistressDarkArt finally guyz this us awesome nd a life changing 1 thnk u 1'c again ..every 1

gdbye take care..!!




MistressDarkArt -> RE: HOW TO TELL A GIRL ABOUT YOUR SUBMISSIVE NESS WITHOUT HER GETTING HORRIFIED.??? (8/30/2013 8:03:01 PM)

So glad it worked out for you, khamar!




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