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RacerJim -> RE: TEA partier says Cruz is OK because Canada isn't foreign soil (8/25/2013 9:46:50 AM)
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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The problem is that natural born citizen is not defined in any law. The common meaning is either "citizen by birth" or "citizen born in the US."
The birthers have spent quite a lot of effort trying to make it the latter and then find some fiction which "proves" the President was born outside the US. Now they find themselves in a situation where the crazy guy some of them want doesn't qualify by their own standard so they have to engage in frankly hilarious mental gymnastics to justify their support for the crazy guy.
It should be a funny couple of years till Cruz drops out of the race.
The problem with your post is that it's all wrong.
1. Natural born citizen is in fact defined in Vattels "Laws of Nations", was the basis of the first SCOTUS Chief Justice John Jay's letter to the first POUTS George Washington, and has been confirmed by at least four legacy U.S. Supreme Court cases. The definition is neither "citizen at birth" or "citizen born in the US." but, rather, only "born in the country to citizen parents (father and mother) of the country." and the intent thereof was then, and still is, to restrict the Office of POTUS/Commander In Chief (of our military) to only those with sole allegiance to the US.
2. The vast majority of legacy birthers have not spent any time whatsoever trying to make it "citizen born in the US." but, rather only "born in the US to US citizen parents". Some birthers do indeed believe the usurper was born outside the US but their belief is no more fictional than the vast majority of usurper believers spending all their effort trying to equate "citizen" with "natural born citizen" and then finding some fiction which "proves" the usurper was born with sole allegiance to the US. The fact of the latter matter is that the usurper himself declared he was born subject to the British Nationality Act via his father, which means that by his own declaration he was born with allegiance to England and therefore could not possibly have been born with sole allegiance to the US.
3. The vast majority of legacy birthers don't believe that Cruz, or anyone else not born in the US to US citizen parents, is eligible to serve as POTUS and therefore have not supported him, much less engaged in any gymnastics to justify supporting him.
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