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DarkSteven -> Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 9:50:15 AM)

There's a question whether this should go here or in P&R. I'm posting it here. I've gotten fed up with the misinformation and misunderstanding about the honeybee situation.

First, the bee is a phenomenal pollinator but it's not the only pollinator. Some other insects pollinate as well. And I've heard that other bees (bumblebees, carpenter bees, etc.) do a more efficient job pollinating than the honeybee. If the honeybee is wiped out, we WILL see less production of food crops, especially initially. But I don't think it'll result in worldwide famines. Note that all of the grains (except buckwheat) are grasses that are wind pollinated, so a honeybee decimation will not affect grain production.

The honeybee hive is incredible. It can have as many as 60,000 bees, all (except the drones) working their tails off. The queen exists to lay eggs, and she will lay tens of thousands of them. The drones live a life of luxury akin to living at the Playboy mansion. They do not work and get pampered. Their sole purpose is to fly from the hive, find a queen, and mate with her, dying on the process. A queen is basically gangbanged in the air and gets impregnated by several drones. When times get tough, the workers kick the drones out of the hive to conserve food.

The vast majority of the hive bees are workers. They begin their lives doing hive duties (rearing freshly hatched brood, guard duty at the front of the hive) and graduate to flying outside the hive for nectar and pollen. Life is rough and they live about two months during the summer.

With that understood...

There's been a lot of foofaraw about honeybees dying off. It's true. But it's not all due to Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD). There are two causes of honeybee decline - CCD and a worsened normal winter die-off.

CCD is hive abandonment. Picture a town full of houses - televisions and computers on, automatic lawn systems kicking on and off, electric signs and traffic lights working - and no adults or children. CCD occurs when a hive that has good stores of honey and brood has all its adult bees leave.

While there's no proven cause of CCD, the majority opinion seems to be gravitating toward bees getting weakened from bad husbandry (driving them around to pollinate crops out of state, stealing extra honey and replacing it with sugar water, pesticides in their ecosystem) and then falling prey to parasites.

Die-off occurs when a hive does not save adequate winter stores of honey. Here in Colorado, it takes 50 - 80 pounds of honey for a single hive to get through the winter. Obviously, it takes more in places that have longer winters, and less in warmer places.

The summers of 2011 and 2012 were hot and dry, which made the wildflowers produce less nectar than usual. The outcome was that the bees stored less honey and far more of them perished over the winters. If you believe in global warming, you can blame honeybee declines on it.

If you want to help bees...

Plant bee crops. When you're at the nursery looking for flowers to plant, select the ones that have bees flying to them. They especially like members of the mint family and legumes. Avoid hybrids - many of them produce no nectar.

Spike your lawn with clover. Lawns are worthless to bees - no flowers at all. Clover will make your lawn greener and also provide first class nectar.

Let wildflowers stand.




AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 10:10:38 AM)

I think you'd be pleased with our pollinator-friendly yard. In a couple of weeks my tot and I are making a couple of bug-hotels for the colder weather, though obviously they are only helpful to the bees and creatures that live alone. (My city-girl upbringing has made me shamefully ignorant of all things outdoorsy and until a few months ago I didn't even know there were species of bees that didn't live in hives).

Let me get this straight - bees have sex in mid air? Awesome. Another reason to love bees. Can't picture how they do it though.

What a fascinating hobby you have chosen.




kalikshama -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 10:15:56 AM)

The pesticide theory is the one I hear about the most as there has been recent legislation restricting or outlawing certain pesticides in the US and EU and advocation for such legislation for some time.

EPA issues new label rules for neonicotinoids to protect bees

August 21, 2013

The Environmental Protection Agency will require new labels and accompanying restrictions on neonicotinoid insecticides that prohibit their use if bees are present. The ruling affects several insecticides within the class, including imidacloprid, dinotefuran, clothianidin and thiamethoxam

Bee-harming pesticides banned in Europe

Monday 29 April 2013

Europe will enforce the world's first continent-wide ban on widely used insecticides alleged to cause serious harm to bees, after a European commission vote on Monday.

Insecticide 'unacceptable' danger to bees, report finds

Wednesday 16 January 2013

Campaigners say the conclusion by the European Food Safety Authority is a 'death knell' for neonicotinoid pesticides

The world's most widely used insecticide has for the first time been officially labelled an "unacceptable" danger to bees feeding on flowering crops. Environmental campaigners say the conclusion, by Europe's leading food safety authority, sounds the "death knell" for the insect nerve agent.

The chemical's manufacturer, Bayer, claimed the report, released on Wednesday, did not alter existing risk assessments and warned against "over-interpretation of the precautionary principle".

The report comes just months after the UK government dismissed a fast-growing body of evidence of harm to bees as insufficient to justify banning the chemicals.

Bees and other pollinators are critical to one-third of all food, but two major studies in March 2012, and others since, have implicated neonicotinoid pesticides in the decline in the insects, alongside habitat loss and disease. In April, the European commission demanded a re-examination of the risks posed by the chemicals, including Bayer's widely used imidacloprid and two others.




jlf1961 -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 10:46:19 AM)

Steven, I have about an acre of nothing but wild flowers her at the house, and on the other piece of land I own there is probably closer to a hundred acres of wild flowers.

The problem is that Texas is in the middle of a long drought (lucylastic's fault BTW) and water conservation has taken its toll on gardens around here.




TNDommeK -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 10:53:09 AM)

That's really cool. I love learning new things. Now I have bee info! Thanks for sharing.




DarkSteven -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 11:27:09 AM)


Oops. Need to add one...


If you want to help bees...

Plant bee crops. When you're at the nursery looking for flowers to plant, select the ones that have bees flying to them. They especially like members of the mint family and legumes. Avoid hybrids - many of them produce no nectar.

Spike your lawn with clover. Lawns are worthless to bees - no flowers at all. Clover will make your lawn greener and also provide first class nectar.

Let wildflowers stand.

Use pesticides sparingly.





MasterCaneman -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 11:53:55 AM)

In other words, bee nice to the bees? [:)]




WebWanderer -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 1:44:15 PM)

The OP is nice and informative and all, but there's still no hard link connecting pesticides to the Colony Collapse Disorder... It could be caused by any number of things, including cell phone towers, certain frequencies (isn't that what drives whales nuts?), overall pollution, the drastic increase in background radiation levels since WW2, etc. I've seen the pesticide studies and while there are some connections (especially if you squint a little), they still don't explain what exactly happens, how it's caused and, most importantly, why.




epiphiny43 -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (8/25/2013 2:01:52 PM)

CCD is less and less of a problem. The new neonicotinoid pesticides simply kill everything, bees included. Sort of like weeding your backyard garden with a large Caterpillar tractor. Which does remove the weeds. Flame throwers are about as discriminating.
Simply planting 'bee friendly' plants isn't a solution, the neonicotinoids are being used on many seeds and plants for sale. https://blu168.mail.live.com/mail/?n=1452656193&fid=1&mid=7187b51a-0ba7-11e3-9610-002264c2c15c&fv=1#n=1970409061&fid=&st=bees&mid=17d7a901-06a9-11e3-a434-002264c28076&fv=1
The whole idea of using a product on the food supply that slaughters a whole phylum of organisms, many of which are critical to every ecology, is market capitalism at it's worst.




kalikshama -> RE: Bees. Colony Collapse Disorder. (9/3/2013 4:41:45 PM)

Florida citrus grower gets slap on the wrist after killing millions of honeybees

A large, well-known Florida citrus grower has been hit with a $1,500 for intentionally killing millions of bees:

One of Florida's largest citrus growers has been fined after a state investigation found it illegally sprayed pesticide that caused the death of millions of honeybees. For the last seven years, the nation's beekeepers have been plagued by a malady known as colony collapse disorder, in which bees disappear from their hives. Pesticides have been blamed as one of the causes.The $1,500 state fine last week is believed to be the first time a Florida citrus grower was cited in connection with a bee kill.

It might be the first time a fine has been levied, but the $1,500 is angering local beekeepers and environmentalists:

That laughable penalty has environmentalists and beekeepers fuming in Crystal River, where the state found that citrus giant Ben Hill Griffin Inc. broke pesticide laws twice this year yet has levied only one tiny fine. "Every four days, they were spraying seven or eight different types of chemicals," Crystal River beekeeper Randall Foti tells the Palm Beach Post. "A $1,500 fine is not much of a deterrent."

Especially given reports that Ben Hill Griffin, Inc. pulls in $126 million annually and pesticides are a prime suspect in the collapse of millions of beehives over the last six years.




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