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stormiKnightBEAR -> Opinions please...How would you... (11/16/2004 11:16:51 AM)

How would you answer to the following if you were describing your Master/Dom/Mistress?
Does your feelings count or have they often been dismissed.

Sirs and Ma'ams, does any of this make you stop and think "do I do that?".

stormi was merely wondering. These days there is alot going on in the email from
various clubs that stormi belongs to addressing the topic of the following poem. Please
remember this is merely a question. Not looking to bash anyone or hurt anyone.
There is from a sub/bottom/slave stand point these days about emotional abuse. Someone
felt they were in a situation that emotional abuse was the case. When actually what really needed
to be done was COMMUNICATION

This was written from a slave to his/her Master. But as you can see in some of the
questions it could come from either end.


Listen

When I ask you to listen to me, and you start to give advice you have not done what I asked.

When I ask you to listen to me and you begin to tell me why I shouldn't feel that way, you are trampling on my feelings.

When I ask you to listen to me, and you feel you have to do something to solve my problem, you have failed me, strange as that may seem.

Listen, All I asked was that you listen, not talk or do - just hear me.

Advice is cheap, two cents will get you both Dear Abby and Billy Graham in the same newspaper.

And I can do for myself, I'm not helpless.

When you do something for me that I can and need to do for myself, you contribute to my fear and weakness.

But when you accept as a simple fact that I do feel what I feel, no matter how irrational, then I can quit trying to convince you and can get about the business of understanding whats behind the irrational feeling.

And when that's clear, the answers are obvious and I don't need advice.

Irrational feelings make sense when we understand whats behind them Perhaps that's why prayer works, sometimes, for some people because God is mute and he doesn't give advice or try to fix things - God just listens and lets you work it out for yourself.

So Please - Listen and just hear me. And if you want to talk, wait a minute for your turn and I listen to you.

by Annonymous



Be well,
stormi
property of Master Bear ([email protected])




feline -> RE: Opinions please...How would you... (11/16/2004 11:28:31 AM)

Hi stormi,

That's been around for a while in the "vanilla" world. [:)] It comes in handy every now and then. It's great to see it here.

Take care,


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stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: Opinions please...How would you... (11/16/2004 11:45:29 AM)

Thanks feline, [:D]

stormi had seen it once long ago.. but it recently surfaced again when there was
a friend who questioned what emotional abuse was. Did emotional abuse consist
of your feelings being ignored, denied, or told that it was ...... well you can fill in
the blank.

But the poem hit a spot and so now... stormi uses it to see if stormi is really listening
to Master.

Thanks again.

stormi
property of Master Bear




topcat -> RE: Opinions please...How would you... (11/16/2004 12:24:43 PM)

quote:

stormi uses it to see if stormi is really listening
to Master.


Midear Stormi-

Thanks for adding that- I was about to note that I feel like that from the top fairly often

Stay warm,
Lawrence




sub4hire -> RE: Opinions please...How would you... (11/16/2004 12:43:45 PM)

My thoughts and feelings are only dismissed when communication breaks down.
Which does happen from time to time thanks to busy schedules.

We just don't hear each other well enough all of the time. Which is why I think it is vital to have quality time set aside once a week. Even if it is only an hour. You get to be with one another. Alone. Talk, or do whatever you want to.

It has been working for us for almost 6 years now.




GoddessDustyGold -> RE: Opinions please...How would you... (11/17/2004 12:03:52 PM)

Feelings always count. I have them, any sub/slave has them. Communication is important and this seems to come up alot. And comunication doesn't mean that one gets talked "at". It is a two way street. I personally prefer a slave with reasonable intelligence and good verbal skills. (Hence, My distress at the sloppy emails I get!)
Now whining...that's another thing.




honeybee462002 -> RE: Opinions please...How would you... (11/17/2004 12:08:45 PM)

i had just not long ago asked about Master allowing me to question things...thanks for sharing the poem it makes you think..
honeybee



“Dance like no one is watching, Love like you'll never be hurt, Sing like no one is listening, Live like it's heaven on earth.”





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