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sunshinemiss -> RE: -=50 Shades of Grey is useful for BDSM after all=- (9/9/2013 12:27:41 AM)
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original: njlauren
At least read the book before making comments. Christian was abused as a child, and as a result he cannot have people touching him. The whole reason he does the D/s thing (or what masquerades as such) is so he can control the relationship so they can't touch him, it is the only way he can be intimate....he is fucked up, by his own admission....
I read the first one... all the way through. Certainly many people are messed up. And many of them end up doing wiitwd. Fair enough.
It wasn't the greatest writing in the world, but a lot of people who bash it also haven't read it IMO. I read all three books, and basically it is an old romance theme that has been done a lot, where a seemingly naive girl finds out what she wants and is able to use that to change the person she falls in love with (and he her)..
I have no problem with this as a plot device. It's common enough, and it is well loved. Writers say there are really only about 8 actual stories anyway, so this is just one of them. The writing was horrible. I read bodice rippers! They are not horrible. This one? The writing was just plain bad. Sorry. It was. The plot, the characters, the word choice.
and sure, it is unrealistic, the sub plots, etc, not saying it is great literature, but I think that people are unfair trying to judge this as a BD/SM book (btw, I find a lot of the serious BD/SM literature to be crappy personally, most of it seems to be written by people not telling a story, bt busy telling people how great they are as scene people).
I agree with that. As a writer, though, I can tell you that it is difficult to get things published that are plot driven rather than "scene" driven. It's too BDSM-y and therefore the plot lovers won't publish it. It's too plot-y for the BDSM folks. *sigh* ah well.
Thing is, a lot of the romances that sell like that are similarly not great literature, but they sell *shrug*. BTW, I think the reason it hit all the women who bought it, not because it was BD/SM, but because it resonated with them, badly written and all. Talking to friends of mine who work in adult boutiques and such, more than a few of whom are BD/SM scene people, they say it is easy to knock the books when you are part of the scene, when in some ways you have already liberated yourself, he said the women they deal with, many of them in their 40's and 50's, for the first time kind of got the idea from the book that it is okay to get what they want in bed, keep in mind in the book that Anastasia ends up getting what she wants out of it, gets her sexual needs met. Among other things, they realize that bottoming (I won't call it sub, it isn't) kind of forces their partner to concentrate on them, being the focus....
You make a fair point. That whole man versus woman thing and the pull to the left for guys to be more "sensitive" and women to be more "tough". i think it may have done as you say - perhaps it even woke us up a bit to the idea that feminism isn't about doing "a man's job" but about doing "MY job" - whatever that is. Same around sexuality?
Like I said, not saying the book is great, but given how fucked up sexuality still is out there, how much old dreck from various social and religious factor, a bad story that gets people to think about sex or improving their sex life, is a hell of a lot better than the shit that is out there, the bad information, the taboos and so forth.
Honey, come to Asia. *whistles* You all have it free and easy over there!
best,
sunshine
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