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Online4Abuse -> BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 3:56:55 AM)

I've noticed a lot of profiles recently with a link to a video on BDSMstreak.

I have to say, one of the links to that site delivered a drive-by trojan that took the best part of a day to delete from my computer.

That makes me reluctant to follow any other links to the site.

Am I being over-cautious, or has any one experienced similar problems? I'm wondering if the proliferation of profiles with BDSMstreak links isn't an attempt to maximise the spread of viruses.




TNDommeK -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 4:25:12 AM)

Nope, and I wouldn't click on links from random ppl either. Better safe than sorry.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 6:01:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
I've noticed a lot of profiles recently with a link to a video on BDSMstreak.

Never click on a link in a profile that you don't know.
Internent common-sense 101.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
I have to say, one of the links to that site delivered a drive-by trojan that took the best part of a day to delete from my computer.

If it managed to reach your computer, your security isn't doing it's job.
If it was up-to-date - use different security software.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
That makes me reluctant to follow any other links to the site.

If you know for certain that it was that one particular site that gave you the virus (don't guess) -
Add it to your Hosts file so you can never get there even if you are re-directed.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
Am I being over-cautious, or has any one experienced similar problems? I'm wondering if the proliferation of profiles with BDSMstreak links isn't an attempt to maximise the spread of viruses.

I don't think any site is setup to deliberately spread viruses (virii?).
Make sure your computer has decent anti-virus and internet security.
Use your common sense.




Apocalypso -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 6:49:47 AM)

BDSMStreak is listed as safe by both Norton and AVG, for what it's worth.

Although, in general, there's a high risk of coming into contact with malware on any of the free porn sites. See this report for more details- http://blog.dynamoo.com/2013/04/top-porn-sites-lead-to-malware.html




NotNutsReally -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 7:59:35 AM)

Maybe this is a little bit out of the scope of this convo. But to avoid viruses

If you are browsing on sites that are sketchy, make sure you disable javascript or use the NoScript plugin.

Do all your perving in a virtual machine. This sounds more complicated then it is.
Just down load virtualbox and use it to run the OS of your choice. Then if you DL a virus it will be contained in the virtual machine.

I do all my perving about inside a virtualbox running Lubuntu live. I can click till my hearts content without fear of an infection.

VirtualBox
https://www.virtualbox.org/

Lubuntu
http://www.lubuntu.net/




Online4Abuse -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 11:29:10 AM)

Thanks all for the replies.

A little bit of detail:

The virus in question was the Ransomware Trojan (described here: http://botcrawl.com/how-to-remove-the-police-central-e-crime-unit-ransomware-virus-metropolitan-police-crime-directorate-malware/)

It has a number of variants, not all of which are recognised by my up-to-date virus checker (or yours).

I had to install Malwarebytes to remove it. Alongside other anti-spyware and adware software that I already had.

You can never have too much anti-malware protection! ;-)

I do not believe BDSMstreak is a dangerous site (my virus checker clears it OK), and I've visited the site via Google without problems. I just believe that it is being used by people to host videos containing malware.

I have noticed a number of links to the site appearing in profiles recently, which concerns me. One profile in particular containing such a link belongs to someone who appears to be online 24 hours a day - "she" is not sleeping, not eating and definitely not having sex with anyone! And "she" visits my profile on a regular basis (once or twice a day) and does not read any messages I send. Almost as if "she" were waiting for a click on the link...

But point taken, behaviour like that is itself a damn good reason not to go clicking links in a stranger's profile... :-)




Apocalypso -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 2:01:18 PM)

It's less likely to be from videos, more likely to be from third party advertisers.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/8/2013 2:50:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
It has a number of variants, not all of which are recognised by my up-to-date virus checker (or yours).

Most trojans and similar viruses have protection issued by the anti-virus modules within hours, if not minutes, after they are released.
So that seems to show that your didn't update your database often enough or are using AV software that isn't doing it's job efficiently.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
I had to install Malwarebytes to remove it. Alongside other anti-spyware and adware software that I already had.

What??!?
You didn't have that as standard?? [8|]

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
You can never have too much anti-malware protection! ;-)

Actually, you can.
Quite a lot of AV software don't like running alongside other AV software.
They'll fight with each other and often slow a computer down, sometimes quite considerably.

Agreed, there's not one single piece of protection out there that'll catch everything - there's no such beast.
All you can do is carefully pick ones that are consistently top of the (independant) rankings.
You also have to consider the different types of intrusion too.

From my personal PoV, most things fall into 3 categories -
1) General viruses. Some are actually harmful, many are just a friggin nuisance.
2) Malware - things that could potentially put your computer at risk of hijack and worse. Things like trojans and web-page hijacks or stuff that allows your computer to become part of a Bot network.
3) Stuff out there that people think are good tools but really don't save you a lot and just bung up your computer with useless things that you only use once in a while (toolbars and helpers). These just use up resources that would otherwise help you do things quicker.

Most AV's out there are good at one thing but not the other.
So the trick is to find just two good things that are able to work together to trap most threats.
The third one is just user ignorance - just dont install them.
As a general rule, I wouldn't ever use a freebie package.


ETA:
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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
...One profile in particular containing such a link belongs to someone who appears to be online 24 hours a day - "she" is not sleeping, not eating and definitely not having sex with anyone! And "she" visits my profile on a regular basis (once or twice a day) and does not read any messages I send. Almost as if "she" were waiting for a click on the link...

Nope. It just means they didn't sign-out of the site.




Online4Abuse -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/9/2013 1:54:04 AM)

Thanks, freedomdwarf, some good points there.

Yes, I did have Malwarebytes installed but because as you say, these things often interfere with each other cut my protection down to one antivirus and one anti-spyware app I had to reinstall Malware bytes when teh other two failed to find Ransomware on a scan.

It seems that even if an AV program recognises one version of the trojan, there are often so many variations that one can slip through. And no AV program will catch everything - as you say, they are good for some things and less good for others. I've never found AV software to be good for trojans and worms, hence the need for ant-spyware in addition.

Btw, I'm using Panda Cloud, so updates to virus definitions shouldn't need to be downloaded - they should be available as soon as installed by the AV provider. Anyway, who updates their virus definitions every 2 hours? :-)

I don't like pay-for programs ever since I found it nearly impossible to eradicate Norton when I wanted to change to McAfee (and McAfee wouldn't run properly until Norton was completely uninstalled, including all the DLL files it leaves behind...). And I've never found them necessary; not convinced Norton or McAfee would find all versions of all Trojans, but I'm not going to test it empirically!

As for login patterns, I've never noticed that "last on" updates regularly when someone forgets to log out. Usually, it will say (for example) "Last on at 8:00" until they do something (such as read a mail). It seems some people who use phone apps can have a "last on" stuck at an earlier time until they log in again, no matter what their activity, but those of us on PCs will see it update with activity.

Please educate me if I'm wrong, but if someone's profile says "Last on 8:00" then "Last on 8:02" then "Last on 8:04" and so on throughout the day, it usually means they are doing something, doesn't it? Or they have a program that is doing something for them...




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/9/2013 3:04:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
Thanks, freedomdwarf, some good points there.

Yes, I did have Malwarebytes installed but because as you say, these things often interfere with each other cut my protection down to one antivirus and one anti-spyware app I had to reinstall Malware bytes when teh other two failed to find Ransomware on a scan.

It seems that even if an AV program recognises one version of the trojan, there are often so many variations that one can slip through. And no AV program will catch everything - as you say, they are good for some things and less good for others. I've never found AV software to be good for trojans and worms, hence the need for ant-spyware in addition.

If you are finding that variations of some virus or trojan is not being recognised by your AV software, then perhaps you have not setup the preferences correctly.
When I use mine, I always, as a matter of course, set it up to use extreme heuristics, extreme scanning, and also to scan inside archives and all file types.
A lot of them, especially the freebies, either don't have that option or are turned off by default.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
Btw, I'm using Panda Cloud, so updates to virus definitions shouldn't need to be downloaded - they should be available as soon as installed by the AV provider. Anyway, who updates their virus definitions every 2 hours? :-)

I update my AV and MB every 10-15 minutes - or at least check for updates.
The same as I do a defrag and a full AV scan at least once, usually twice, every single day on every drive installed.
I have more than 4,000 Gigs on just this one PC alone so it's in my best interest to make sure everything is clean.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
I don't like pay-for programs ever since I found it nearly impossible to eradicate Norton when I wanted to change to McAfee (and McAfee wouldn't run properly until Norton was completely uninstalled, including all the DLL files it leaves behind...). And I've never found them necessary; not convinced Norton or McAfee would find all versions of all Trojans, but I'm not going to test it empirically!

You might not be surprised to learn that I actually have tested most AV stuff to destruction [:D]
And to remove Norton completely, download the Norton removal tool from their website.

Let me tell you a little adventure I had when doing this...
Bear in mind I am running 12 PC's here on a home network and all machines are online 24/7.
Obviously, each machine once installed and setup and scanned, are setup as "trusted" sources within the network - everything else is considered as 'hostile'.

A friend brought his PC to me because it was running extremely slowly and he thought he'd got a virus. He was at a loss because he'd paid $7,500 for his MacAfee business level AV and thought he was pretty safe and secure.
I didn't trust putting his machine on the network so I just hooked up his 120GB hard drive and scanned it with Norton Internet Security (it has the AV built-in).
I turned off the AV scanner after 3 days.
Why?
Because it had found over 15,000 viruses and trojans and was only halfway through the scan!!
So you can guess what my opinion of MacAfee is. lol.
That said, I'm not saying Norton is the best either - but it is quite reasonable.
My objection is the cost of the renewal yearly subscriptions for most of them.
Quite often, you can buy the latest retail release off the shelf for more than 25% less than a yearly renewal.

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ORIGINAL: Online4Abuse
As for login patterns, I've never noticed that "last on" updates regularly when someone forgets to log out. Usually, it will say (for example) "Last on at 8:00" until they do something (such as read a mail). It seems some people who use phone apps can have a "last on" stuck at an earlier time until they log in again, no matter what their activity, but those of us on PCs will see it update with activity.

Please educate me if I'm wrong, but if someone's profile says "Last on 8:00" then "Last on 8:02" then "Last on 8:04" and so on throughout the day, it usually means they are doing something, doesn't it? Or they have a program that is doing something for them...

That can be attributed to updates on the site's streaming adverts and is quite common.

I have a friend who uses the Yahoo IM on her smart phone or ipad.
But instead of signing out properly, she just turns her phone/ipad off.
I have told her many times that turning her phone off doesn't disconnect her from Yahoo.
At my end, she still shows as 'online' but obviously when her end is turned off, she doesn't know about any messages people send her until she turns it back on again.
So I wouldn't necessarily put much credence into what the site is telling you. lol.


You might be interested in what I use for security (and I just know you're gonna laugh)....
Good old Ms Security Essentials - and it's free!
It's surprisingly good for what it is.
It has detected attempted hacks, bad websites, infected emails, all manner of trojans and stuff that Norton, Avast, and Kaspersky didn't pick up. What's more, no false positives either.... yet.
Although it's good for those, like a lot of other AV's, it's not so good at finding other hijacks and malware that Malware Bytes detects.
So these days, I just run those two - Ms Security Essentials and Malware Bytes Anti-malware.
About once a month or so, I use the online scanners at Norton and a couple of others just to check - and they have never found anything at all at the end of a full scan.
That seems pretty encouraging to me.




Online4Abuse -> RE: BDSMstreak (9/9/2013 10:01:05 AM)

Freedomdwarf, no, not laughing...

I gave up with both free and paid-for firewalls and now use the built-in Windows firewall. It seems to do the job just as well, without needing constant tweaking because it is either doing something unwanted or not doing something that is wanted.

So maybe I will give MS Security Essentials a go.

The only doubts I have about Microsoft are that they produce the most commonly used software, and therefore the apps that hackers target first.

Thanks for the education about how ad streaming can affect a person's online status. Well, I take all information provided by sites like CM wit a pinch of salt, but that was some useful extra knowledge.

Great if you can do a defrag and AV check twice a day and still be able to use your computer. But it sounds as if you have a professional array with quite a bit of redundancy - those of us with one or two PCs would probably find that protecting ourselves from viruses is stopping us from actually using the machines!




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