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If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/9/2013 10:35:50 PM   
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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/10/2013 7:43:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		makes me sick i had to watch my dad shrivel up and die to cancer and this is saying he mightve had a good chance of living and a whole lot less pain if he used this natural plant, how could anyone essentially murder all these sick people for money???

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/10/2013 10:17:22 AM   
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makes me sick i had to watch my dad shrivel up and die to cancer and this is saying he mightve had a good chance of living and a whole lot less pain if he used this natural plant, how could anyone essentially murder all these sick people for money???


During my lifetime, I have watched several people close to me die excruciating deaths from cancer. When I first watched Rick Simpson's free documentary on YouTube entitled Run From the Cure about three years ago and quickly followed with additional research on my own, I had the very same emotional reaction that you did.

Imagine how I felt, when I offered to obtain this medicine for someone close to me who's body was riddled with cancer, only to have her husband refuse on her behalf... due to his conditioned belief that chemo and radiation was the right course of action. She died.


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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/11/2013 5:44:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		doctors are like gods we believe and trust everything they say with absolute certainty, everyone i know sees them as the ultimate force for good how could anyone question them for a second when they are doing life saving work... i wouldn't have believed it too without seeing this documentary .. a plant oil thats heals cancer and nobody has heard of it!?! its not your fault we are just to trusting and eager to believe the doctors do all they can with the very best treatments they can offer our sick and dying

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/11/2013 1:34:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		You can't be that naïve. People claim miraculous cures from 'unknown' plants and herbs every day. All of which turn out to be fraudulent. The only person who benefits is the one selling it.
Snake oil salesmen Always have and always will.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/11/2013 3:28:42 PM   
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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/11/2013 3:34:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		After the first of the year, I am writing up some documents on how I want to be treat in case of illnesses like cancer. No chemo, no radiation...I have seen too many friends and family opt for the treatments and the cure was worse than the disease. My great aunt is recovering from just 1 round of chemo and it landed her in the hospital for over 4 months. She is home now, bald but her white blood count is over 200,000 now. Her husband did not want her to die yet she suffered from hell because of the chemo. If it is painful, give me morphine. I deal with pain daily because of the fibromyalgia so it makes no difference to me.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/11/2013 10:41:31 PM   
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You can't be that naïve. People claim miraculous cures from 'unknown' plants and herbs every day. All of which turn out to be fraudulent. The only person who benefits is the one selling it.
Snake oil salesmen Always have and always will.




I have seen what it can do with my own two eyes, and have seen hundreds of testimonials from others who have had truly remarkable results over the past couple years.

Do you base your "All of which turn out to be fraudulent" comment upon anything besides your opinion?

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/11/2013 10:45:49 PM   
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After the first of the year, I am writing up some documents on how I want to be treat in case of illnesses like cancer. No chemo, no radiation...


Great idea.

I've already expressed my wishes to my family verbally, but haven't put it in writing yet.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/13/2013 10:52:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		No, I don't base things on my own opinion but on scientific studies. Do you actually know in real life all those people who wrote the testimonials? Because how do you know the snake oil salesman looking to get rich from suckers like you didn't write them all.

I took my son for an ultrasound today. I'm not giving him useless herbs.

As far as cancer goes, depends on what stage and where the cancer is as to when I decide the cure is worse than the kill.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/13/2013 1:22:33 PM   
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No, I don't base things on my own opinion but on scientific studies. Do you actually know in real life all those people who wrote the testimonials? Because how do you know the snake oil salesman looking to get rich from suckers like you didn't write them all.

I took my son for an ultrasound today. I'm not giving him useless herbs.

As far as cancer goes, depends on what stage and where the cancer is as to when I decide the cure is worse than the kill.



Frankly, you have a lot of nerve calling me a sucker. Where do you get off?

I've already stated that I've seen it work with my own two eyes. I have also spoken to others who have successfully used the oil, a small handful of them face-to-face. No one tried to sell me anything. Many folks grow the plant and extract the oil at home themselves, for peanuts... which is exactly what Rick Simpson has been advocating all along.

The oil works, regardless of what you choose to believe.


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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/13/2013 2:00:00 PM   
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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 8:36:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nothing like lying and trying to get statistics to prove your own point. The study did not say that chemo failed 97% of the time.

But that is neither here nor there. There are a lot of people using medical weed now. I haven't heard of even one being cured of anything let alone all the illnesses listed. If I remember right, the violet wand was supposed to cure people of most of that stuff too. Of course that was when electricity was a new thing and the new version of snake oil.

If you go to here you'll see what the statistics from that study mean.





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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 8:44:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Considering the op's vociferousness, harping on this, I'm beginning to wonder if the op isn't selling this shit.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 9:15:17 AM   
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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 9:28:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Perhaps this may appeal to the inside-the-box thinkers here, as it includes more mainstream characters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Tqg2y3yYR0


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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 9:33:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a neat cream in my refer that will cure cancer and a multitude of other skin problems. It doesn't cause the side effects that those creams in the video did. The cream itself does nothing to fight the cancer or other skin disorders. All is does it encourage your own immune system to come to that area and do what it's designed to do.

I have a friend who this summer had chemo for the second time in 5 years for colon cancer. Just before he had his last treatment he went to a faith healer. The faith healer cured his cancer, yep, he felt great and cancer free and owed it to the faith healer, not his chemo treatments. Now he wants to become a faith healer and pray illnesses away.



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Yes, I am crazy about feathered creatures. I have a dozen chickens, 3 ducks, 5 geese, and 2 parakeets.

Revise that number. Just got 14 new chicks and 5 turkeys.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 9:51:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Considering the op's vociferousness, harping on this, I'm beginning to wonder if the op isn't selling this shit.


But couldn't one just as easily question your agenda as well; if you or someone close to you is employed in a traditional health-care field; why you insult people seeking to help others?

Like Rick Simpson, I advocate growing the plant and making your own medicine. The cost is negligible. However, use extreme caution when using flammable liquids!

BTW... Rick Simpson grew his own plants, made the medicine himself, and gave the medicine away for years. The only time he ever charged for it, is after the RMCP confiscated his plants and he was forced to buy raw material from black market dealers to make the medicine. And even then, he only charged an amount to recoup his actual costs.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 9:59:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		There is a such thing as misdiagnosis... every once in awhile you'll have someone who was diagnosed with cancer who doesn't actually have it, having a benign tumor and something else messing up their blood test results temporarily. This is rare but it does happen. For that tiny minority, natural treatment or faith healing might be better than chemo because then they're spared the side effects from a treatment that wouldn't have been necessary or helpful anyway. But I'd feel a lot more comfortable seeking a second opinion before starting chemo than just assuming I can be cured of a serious illness through methods with little to no scientific evidence behind them.

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RE: If you or a loved one ever become seriously ill... - 9/14/2013 10:08:59 AM   
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There is a such thing as misdiagnosis... every once in awhile you'll have someone who was diagnosed with cancer who doesn't actually have it, having a benign tumor and something else messing up their blood test results temporarily. This is rare but it does happen. For that tiny minority, natural treatment or faith healing might be better than chemo because then they're spared the side effects from a treatment that wouldn't have been necessary or helpful anyway. But I'd feel a lot more comfortable seeking a second opinion before starting chemo than just assuming I can be cured of a serious illness through methods with little to no scientific evidence behind them.


Misdiagnosis happens. Let me tell you about Gary's grandma. She was diagnosed with breast cancer in the early 1900s when there was no chemotherapy. She was told her only hope was to get pregnant. Her youngest was already 20 but she and her husband worked hard and Gary's mom was born. His grandma lived to a very ripe old age firmly believing her daughter cured the cancer.

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Yes, I am crazy about feathered creatures. I have a dozen chickens, 3 ducks, 5 geese, and 2 parakeets.

Revise that number. Just got 14 new chicks and 5 turkeys.

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