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Lucylastic -> What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 3:48:46 AM)

The city of San Francisco is suing Nevada over a state psychiatric facility that allegedly dumped thousands of poor and homeless patients with mental illnesses onto buses with one-way tickets to states like California and told them to seek medical care there. City attorneys claim that the practice cost San Francisco $500,000 in public funds to house and treat patients who should have been receiving care at the Rawson-Neal psychiatric hospital in Nevada, and that the lawsuit (which officials hope to make a class-action one) is meant to hold the state accountable in addition to reclaiming expenses.

“Homeless, psychiatric patients are especially vulnerable to the kind of practices Nevada engaged in, and the lawsuit I’ve filed today is about more than just compensation,” said San Francisco City Attorney Dennis Herrera in a statement. “It’s about accountability.”
Nevada officials replied that they would cooperate with Herrera’s investigation — but they say they won’t reimburse the city, since it has failed to demonstrate appropriate standing to represent the patients.

Rawson-Neal psychiatric hospital’s “patient dumping” was exposed in an April investigation by the San Francisco Bee. The facility allegedly bused away about 100 patients with mental disorders to California between July 2012 and February 2013 alone, and may have systematically sent away as many as 1,500 patients over five years — many to places where they had no family and no contacts.

Doctors allegedly told patients that Nevada lacked sufficient funding for affordable housing and mental health care services — two critical aspects of the social safety net for protecting the indigent and mentally ill — and that they would have better luck seeking care elsewhere. Patients were reportedly discharged with nothing but two or three days’ worth of medication, some snacks, and a one-way bus ticket.

The revelations drew uproar from both local and federal officials. In April, the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) warned Rawson-Neal that it would lose its federal Medicare funding if it didn’t change its practices and comply with all conditions of participation in the Medicare program, which include proper procedures for discharging patients.

Nevada officials have responded to the scandal by fortifying state mental health care funds and Gov. Brian Sandoval (R) has made revamping Nevada’s mental health system a priority in the ensuing months. Sandoval proposed an additional $8 million in mental health funding in May — a stark departure from recent years, when Nevada made the fifth-largest cut to mental health appropriations of any U.S. state.
The Nevada State Board of Examiners unanimously approved $3 million in new funding in August for Rawson-Neal to renovate a mental health hospital on its campus that will eventually hold an additional 58 beds.
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/09/11/2602391/san-francisco-sues-nevada-patient-dumping/






Kirata -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 3:58:04 AM)


I'll admit that's a new twist. But aside from being a creative departure from the norm, I'm afraid that the practice of dumping psychiatric patients is sadly as old as it is outrageous.

Don't Dump More of Mentally Ill on the Streets

The date of the above article is 1992.

K.




Lucylastic -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 4:13:01 AM)

And it wasnt ok then. I remember working in the MH field back then when most countries did it, and being disgusted with politicians, just as much as I am now.Its a shame they wont get what they deserve




tweakabelle -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 4:27:00 AM)

This practice goes back a lot further than 1992. In the medieval era, German towns on the Rhine River used to load their mentally ill people on to ships and send the ships off down the river hoping the problem would become someone else's. That's where the expression 'ship of fools' came from.

It's a sad commentary on the state of things today that medieval practices are being revived.




Hillwilliam -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 5:08:35 AM)

It started back in the early 80's. Close the healthcare facility and dump the crazies into the street.




kalikshama -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (mentally ill and homeless dumping) (9/12/2013 5:33:57 AM)

Now Nevada will be linked to Fidel Castro and the Mariel boatlift in my mind:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariel_boatlift

The Mariel boatlift was a mass emigration of Cubans who departed from Cuba's Mariel Harbor for the United States between April 15 and October 31, 1980.

The event was precipitated by a sharp downturn in the Cuban economy which led to internal tensions on the island and a bid by up to 10,000 Cubans to gain asylum in the Peruvian embassy.

The Cuban government subsequently announced that anyone who wanted to leave could do so, and an exodus by boat started shortly afterward. The exodus was organized by Cuban-Americans with the agreement of Cuban president Fidel Castro. The exodus started to have negative political implications for U.S. president Jimmy Carter when it was discovered that a number of the exiles had been released from Cuban jails and mental health facilities. The Mariel boatlift was ended by mutual agreement between the two governments involved in October 1980. By that point, as many as 125,000 Cubans had made the journey to Florida.




Winterapple -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 5:35:11 AM)

Yep, been going on for awhile.
Think it's one of those things we can thank St Ronnie for.




jlf1961 -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 6:05:08 AM)

This angers me on so many levels that it is not funny. And it has been going on for years.





MasterCaneman -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 9:40:47 AM)

Pot calling the kettle black. When I lived in SLC back in the '80s-'90s, SF and LA would send a weekly bus loaded with their damaged rascals there because the LDS church operated a separate welfare system. They never looked into the fact that it was meant for their membership, they just wanted to unload their head cases somewhere well out of walking distance.




papassion -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 12:33:23 PM)

I don't see a problem. Doesn't California pride itself on being a generous, kind, liberal state where ALL are welcome? Hell, they even have sanctuary cities to keep illegals from prosecution.




Yachtie -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 1:47:38 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: papassion

I don't see a problem. Doesn't California pride itself on being a generous, kind, liberal state where ALL are welcome? Hell, they even have sanctuary cities to keep illegals from prosecution.



Those Nevadaians, just not their kind of people I guess.




LadyPact -> RE: What the FLAMING F*** (9/12/2013 1:52:51 PM)

Kind of reminds Me of this: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0CFcQtwIwBg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hark.com%2Fclips%2Fntthxddwfb-california-is-nice-to-the-homeless&ei=yigyUoiBEuf7igLK3YDwAw&usg=AFQjCNHa69tZLtFLtRHmjI00czf0lnBHsg&bvm=bv.52164340,d.cGE&cad=rja




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