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Hello - 9/15/2013 10:49:32 AM   
submaleslaveboy


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Greetings. I am a straight male sub/and/or/slave, (I fit both roles). I have quite a bit of experience with this, but would like to live it as a lifestyle, (FLR, FemDom with BDSM, full-time D/s and TPE).
I appreciate all the good, (and some not so good), advice that I have read on the CM boards.
I may ask advice myself about new areas that I have little experience in, but curious about. Not looking for "wanker fodder", just honest answers and opinions.
Some things I may ask Female Dommes, others may be better handled by fellow sub males who have been there, done that.

My philosophy, my code if You will:

I am a hardwired, life-long submissive. Women have always been the great mystery, and i'm thirsty for the knowledge. I believe in Female Supremacy WITHIN THE FLR. Generalized blanket Female Supremacy ideas are mostly male fantasy, or come from Women who hate men. But in the one-on-one, I will always know She is my Superior! A Dominant Woman who is in touch with Herself. possesses intelligence and skills, and knows how to use Her Feminine Powers is the embodiment of the Goddess, and i crave to serve and worship!

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RE: Hello - 9/15/2013 11:20:45 PM   
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Like your cute kitty pic.

If you are sincerely seeking an FLR, might I suggest that you reconsider what you have in your profile as follows?

1. Asking whether there are "any Women as perverted and obsessed with FemDom as men are" isn't going to win you any brownie points with an FLR Domme (or any other kind, for that matter), and I'm not just speaking for myself. Your intro here is more in line with moving you closer to reaching your goal. I trust you haven't bought into the insidious fiction of sex-crazed Amazons lying in wait to pounce upon every anal cherry that presents itself (mostly written by men for men's wank fodder, I might add).

2. As an FLR is represented as an idealistic image of a (Christian) Queen Regent and her loyal (Christian/Crusader) Knight, your reference to Wicca is incongruent with this dynamic, not to mention another big turn-off.

Please take the above in the well-wishing spirit in which they are given.


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RE: Hello - 9/16/2013 12:20:12 AM   
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Welcome to the forums.

Please clean up after your kitty.

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RE: Hello - 9/16/2013 2:35:00 AM   
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RE: Hello - 9/16/2013 6:35:03 PM   
submaleslaveboy


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To Gauge,
oh i do.
i am a slave to pussy!

i apologize in advance if i offended anyone!

< Message edited by submaleslaveboy -- 9/16/2013 6:41:19 PM >

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RE: Hello - 9/16/2013 8:19:05 PM   
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Hello and welcome to the forums.

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RE: Hello - 9/16/2013 10:14:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: submaleslaveboy

To Gauge,
oh i do.
i am a slave to pussy!

i apologize in advance if i offended anyone!


You are new here so I will let this slide.

This is a site where it is fairly tough to either shock, stun, appall, horrify, disturb, aggrieve, rile, vex, snub, slight, repulse, nettle, miff, or distress, anyone.

Offending is not impossible, but we are all quite twisted and demented, so you should be just fine.

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RE: Hello - 9/18/2013 3:14:57 PM   
submaleslaveboy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gauge


quote:

ORIGINAL: submaleslaveboy

To Gauge,
oh i do.
i am a slave to pussy!

i apologize in advance if i offended anyone!


You are new here so I will let this slide.

This is a site where it is fairly tough to either shock, stun, appall, horrify, disturb, aggrieve, rile, vex, snub, slight, repulse, nettle, miff, or distress, anyone.

Offending is not impossible, but we are all quite twisted and demented, so you should be just fine.

Well wasn't sure. Ms TigressLily seemed upset that i used the word "pervert" in my profile!!
Then i learned that only Christians can have FLRs.!! i am not upset at all, and Her response was not an attack, so we are all cool.
But like You said, aren't we all perverts of one sort or another? AND PROUD OF IT!!!!

< Message edited by submaleslaveboy -- 9/18/2013 3:23:14 PM >

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RE: Hello - 9/18/2013 5:53:37 PM   
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Are you that clueless, babe? Gauge is referring to posting your opinions in the forum discussions, not how you make cold-contact in a personal message with any F/femme, or what a Domme might read in your profile if she even gets that far. Just to fill you in, any off-putting crude photos and inappropriate and/or disrespectful messages self-eliminate roughly 90-95% of all those who attempt to contact me. Ordinarily I send one TBNT-Thanks But No Thanks message - most other Dommes don't have the time to deal with the sheer volume of mail they receive and simply delete whole groups of messages from what I've gathered - and of the 5% who make it through, I may only exchange 2-3 additional messages with them. I usually only look at 1-2% of sub profiles, so their profiles need to be reasonably impressive to catch my interest.

Your concept of an FLR must not be the traditional one. Anyone can have an FLR or call their relationship an FLR if they so desire. Good luck with finding a practicing Wiccan Domme out of the miniscule pool of an already small pool of Female Dominants that you wish to target.

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RE: Hello - 9/18/2013 6:46:55 PM   
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Welcome to the forums. Actually I see nothing wrong with your profile, as far as it goes.

However, most women are going to want to know more about you than you show. What are you passionate about? Do you volunteer at a soup kitchen? What kinds of books do you read? Are you an Ole Miss fan? You know, normal life things.

And this is because most of life is not spent tied up and panting but doing normal things. Do you enjoy Thai food as much as she does or do you hate it? Are you someone she can carry on a conversation with, like normal partners do.

The other thing is the worship stuff. That's going to chase off a lot of people. Because setting someone else up to be perfect is asking a hell of a lot for them to live up to. So what happens when you see she's going to fuck up? Do you not tell her because she ought to be perfect or do you warn her in time to reconsider and correct herself?

The Man makes really good decisions, but there's an interstate he takes frequently where he always misses his exit. Sometimes spectacularly. If I don't speak up, and loudly, we can wind up in the next state. So I now always remind him. If I viewed him as someone to be worshiped we would have problems. Because I would have unexpressed expectations that he can't meet. And doesn't want to meet.

And no, you don't have to be Christian to be in a d/s relationship. You do have to accept that other people have different belief systems and find someone who won't demand you convert to hers if that doesn't interest you.

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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 12:31:32 AM   
submaleslaveboy


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Ms Tigress Lily,
No Ma'am, i am not clueless. i was being a sarcastic smart ass, because i was waiting for You to jump my ass again!! Sarcasm doesn't always come across in writing. That aside, i DID listen to what You said and revised my profile. I think i did better this time around. I also took the advice of DesFIP and added more personal info. Please feel free to critique it, (sincerely, not sarcasm).

I do wish to respectfully disagree with Your definition of FLR. IMHO, and i am not an expert, the definition of FLR is pretty straightforward; it means FEMALE LED RELATIONSHIP, just like it sounds. Now correct me if i misunderstood what You were saying....Were You saying that the Arthurian Lore is the earliest literary example of FLR, therefore it is the definition? There were no Female Led Relationships before that?

i think that the Queen/knight analogy is just one dynamic version of FLR. It could also be Mistress/sub, Owner/slave, or even totally vanilla. It only means that the Woman is in charge, both parties agree to it, and both are happy this way. Every FLR is as unique as the people involved. If You want the Queen/knight version, then that is the dynamic of Your FLR. i'm not trying to be petty, but You made it sound like there was only one way to do it.

To DesFIP....Really? Worship is a turnoff? i can understand if trying to explain to a total stranger to this lifestyle. i went through that myself trying to explain myself to my vanilla ex-wife. She thought calling Her Goddess, and wanting to worship her was kind of blasphemous, (oh, those were fun times!). These are concepts and attitudes, not to be taken literally. Worship, physically is just foreplay, but without rushing to have sex. To say i worship a Woman, and She is my Goddess is simply a different way to say that i love and adore her, and she means more to me than anything. Sure, there are subs that will find the dirtiest, nastiest Pro Domme and call her goddess and lick her ass, but there are real men who love and adore their Women.
Some Women might feel insecure about themselves being worshiped and called "goddess". My advice, relax and enjoy it, You'll get used to it, and may feel less insecure later.
No one expects perfection, unless they are a jerk. We all make mistakes, and have good days and bad days. The thing i love about FemDom is that it brings an idealism into the relationship. When You deeply love and adore someone, they are perfect in Your eyes, warts and all. You see past their faults and mistakes. You know they are there, but it's OK. It supposed to be that way in ALL romantic relationships, but we forget alot.
Instead of the pedestal, i like to think of it as a circle. The circle is my mind and heart. Most people put themselves in the center, self-centered, selfish, etc...
I think of FemDom and FLR as putting HER in the center of my mind and Heart!

P.S. I did not bring up Christians in this thread. Please, let's drop that before EVERYONE flames in!

< Message edited by submaleslaveboy -- 9/22/2013 1:00:19 AM >

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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 5:31:16 AM   
TigressLily


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For all intents and purposes, your profile looks much better now, and you come across as more likeable than before. I don't know whether you had already modified parts of it by the time DFIP had taken a look, but I was originally giving you my feedback from the subjective perspective of a Domme. This was in no way, shape or form a comprehensive critique. I'd be here all day if I were to start doing that with male subs. I never had an issue with the Worship aspect since it's a fundamental part of what a sub (as opposed to someone, let's say, who only identifies as a bottom and might limit his focus to Body Worship) puts on the table to offer to his Mistress, as far as I'm concerned. I don't present myself as a Goddess, nor would I ever insist upon being addressed as such, so it's a moot point with me.

You are entitled to whatever definition of FLR you choose to employ, whether you choose to simply take three words in their literal sense. Be mindful how you use terms in the event that they convey the wrong meaning to the intended party to prevent misunderstandings which could potentially lead to deal breakers. My third-generation FLR German friend would take exception to its loose usage, as would others I know in England and Italy. The image invoked of Queen to her knight is an iconic one. Think of the legendary Queen Guinivere, her lover Sir Lancelot, and symbolically cuckolded King Arthur, which dates (circa 5th century) from before the Middle Ages. I don't go for the cuckolding bit, so I have my own modified version of FLR myself, nor do I agree with every precept. But since I am the Female doing the leading, this is essentially my prerogative.

Not the time nor the place for me to go into historically matriarchal societies and its constructs. Even patriarchy is an inverted form of matriarchy, in that the elite band of males who are in charge of enforcing this system comprise roughly the upper third of all those to benefit from patriarchy, whereas the other two-thirds of the males are expendable as cannon fodder (sword, spear, bow&arrow, whichever). I'm being liberal with this ratio; it might be more like one-quarter ratio to three-quarters. You only need one alpha bull hypothetically to perpetuate a herd, the rest of the bulls can be led to slaughter. The trade off? Females got social insurance of sorts that they and their progeny would be protected and provided for during their lifetimes. Well, enough of the anthropological theorizing. We could be here all day with that, as well.

Btw, still find your tiger-striped kitty pic appealing. You should get viewing hits for that alone.


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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 7:08:25 AM   
submaleslaveboy


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Thank You for Your input and advice. We can respectfully agree to disagree on FLR. I thinkl that almost everything involving human relations and feelings is rather relative and subjective. This seems especially true in BDSM and D/s. What is pain for one is pleasure for another. Just the "right" level of pain, domination, control, etc...is too much,or too little for others.

DesFIP seems be one of many Women who shuns the thought of being put on a pedestal, for fear of being set up for a fall. This is understandable since it happens all the time. Selfish sub beg a Woman to dominate them, then criticize them for "not doing it right".
Well, it is the sub who is NOT doing it right in that case.

DesFIP, if You don't like heights, and don't want to be put on a pedestal, that is fine. You stay where You are most comfortable, and i will kneel!

P.S. That is not my kitty....mine is much cuter, but i wish to protect her identity and privacy!

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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 7:15:42 AM   
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Welcome to the forums.

I do have to concur. You are going to find a number of female Dominants who don't care for the Goddess label, the worshiping aspect, and the pedestal gig.


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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 7:59:39 AM   
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Lady Pact,
i understand what You are saying, but i would like to challenge the Dommes here to find one single profile on this site that appeals to 100% of the Women who read it, (and is not full of lies and BS).

i am not looking to attract 100%, just the ones most compatible to me. Of course, i don't want to narrow the field too much!

i can see how some Women, (especially those with strong religious upbringing), would be uncomfortable with the goddess label if she feels the sub is LITERALLY substituting Her with God. But come on, this is not the case in reality. i love the lifestyle because we can act out different roles.
Some Women like the goddess label for the feelings of power exchange. And what Domme would object to being TREATED like a goddess?
Titles and labels can easily be clarified in the very first contact. Some Women hate the title "Ma'am", while others love it. Some hate "Domme" or "Mistress" because it makes them feel like a professional dominatrix or prostitute. This takes about half a second to clear up, and should not be a dealbreaker.

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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 8:07:31 AM   
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Challenge met. http://www.collarme.com/personals/v/731418/default.htm


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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 8:46:47 AM   
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Wow! If I were a Domme, I would jump on him, too! He sure is in great shape for an 89 year old!!! Now we just have to find out if it all true, then get the vote from the other 99.999%.
i am always suspect of any profile that seems too good to be true, because, well You know......

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RE: Hello - 9/22/2013 9:08:48 AM   
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...In addition, if someone lives too far away, and neither party can relocate, then that could be a deal breaker no matter how "perfect" they are. (To be honest, i did not read his entire profile to see if he could or not, i started feeling sick. Now please excuse me, i need to do some crunches and work on the abs!)

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