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mnottertail -> RE: two things. (9/20/2013 1:29:12 PM)

And I showed that the incorrect 28k figure would be 40k, but that is just sequestration of government employees. Not including contractors.




DomKen -> RE: two things. (9/20/2013 3:37:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
You do realize that you haven't answered any questions or cited anything that shows that millions of people would suddenly be out of work. Nor have you cited anything that shows what that effect would have on the economy.

If the federal government does not have a budget it has no authorization to spend money on payroll. When that happens the only federal employees even allowed to come into work are those deemed essential and the only way any of them get paid for that time is if when the spending authorization is finally passed it includes a special provision authorizing that pay. do you really think the Republicans in the House would pass such a measure?
If you have any actual questions why not ask them? All you've done in response to my posts is demand links to fairly obvious information.


I have asked questions (asking for citations is neither demanding nor is it not asking questions). You continue to talk in platitudes and refer to stuff that could be very credible. But, you have no proof it is. Therein lies your issue.

MN went on about sequestration already having an effect. I showed government employment had dropped slightly, but that when compared to the previous year, it was almost non-existent. And, on top of all that, private employment continued to rise well beyond what was cut (even taking the assumption that all 28k jobs lost were due to sequestration).

I put the numbers on the page. I tried to put the graphs on the page, too, but that didn't work for some reason.


What proof is needed? That nonessential federal employees won't work in the case of a shutdown? That those same employees won't get paid without a special provision once the shutdown is over?




DesideriScuri -> RE: two things. (9/20/2013 4:13:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
What proof is needed? That nonessential federal employees won't work in the case of a shutdown? That those same employees won't get paid without a special provision once the shutdown is over?


Proof of how many people will be sidelined and that it will impact the economy in the long term.






LookieNoNookie -> RE: two things. (9/20/2013 4:33:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And I showed that the incorrect 28k figure would be 40k, but that is just sequestration of government employees. Not including contractors.


Well, there was a debate about the 28k figure, some felt it was 16k, some felt it was a 23 - 47k figure....some have concerns that there is debate on the figures that run between 7k and 74k (plus or minus 22k)....I however feel that the numbers fall somewhere in between.




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