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yes exactly, but like he accepts to challenge bigger and younger thugs because armed with a gun for the same reason a person that intends to support himself with illicit activities will challenge more difficoult targets if profitable, or will use violence in order to avoid complication. In this case the aviability of a tool designed to harm more efficiently like a gun changed the danger perception of the persons, it's not hypnosis but it's presence makes bamad accept a higher stakes gamble as, I wish him this never happens, but the first time he challenges the wrong big time criminal thinking he's just a common thug this will end badly, anyhow, like he said, you don't care how it works in other countries as when you have your gun to defend yourself your live is wonderfull whatever happens around, and from other posts you wrote I feel you also don't care about how other people can be safe even if in their country there is 1/10 of the guns there are in yours. By the way for me your problem are not guns or immigrants or soft judges, but that you live in a society that desn't offer any safety net, this brings that huge amount of drug in your streets (because there whouldn't be so much dealers if there where not a huge number of buyiers) and peoples in your prisons because once you fall you stop only at the bottom.
I don't see where he has ever stated that he is challenging anyone.
He's armed for the same reason a drug dealer is ????? Absurd to an extreme.
If you're in your own driveway or going to the store in your neighborhood and confronted by thugs who would rob you or hurt you for the fun of it. A gun gives him the option to fight back and not be a victim. It's as simple as that. It has nothing to do with all the psyco babble crap you made up.
What you don't seem to grasp is the overwhelming majority of guns are in safe responsible hands of peaceable citizens. It's a tiny fraction of guns causing problems. I'm inferring that you seem to think, should the law abiding people give up their guns or follow your prescription of restrictions, we will reduce the problem. The thing is we would need the bad guys to at along with it too. I'm not gullible enough to believe that would happen.
In the other thread he said three times he used his gun as intimidation in order to force someone to fly, I was talking about that.
I could buy a gun, I'd probably do it if I happen to own a jewelry or a tobacco store (tobacco store are the closest equivalent to liquor stores in your country), nothing in the laws of my country keeps me from doing it, but I would have no problems in registring it to the police or not selling it to individuals.
In any other case I don't feel I need a gun, no one I know has ever been victim of a robbery or hurt by people just for fun, even if I use to walk in my city alone during the night I've had to change night trains in other cities and spend time alone in a train station, never been challenged by anyone, maybe I could be one time in the future asked by a man with a knife for my walet and my mobile, do I have to spend 700€ to protect 300€ worth stuff? I'll give them the money for their fucking dose and go to the police to describe what happened, but I feel as something very unlikely.
I don't grasp your idea that population is divided in two distinct groups: good people and criminals and no one will ever change side so it's just a problem of identify the defective person and lock them to solve the problem, you know they show their true nature in the moment they broke a law, than there are tis so called peaceable citizens that will never broke a law because they are not done that way. For me the world doesn't work that way it's not all black and white and there is a lot of gray, so if someone wants a tool designed for the purpose to harm has to demostrate his intention to be responsible and be willingly subject to certein controls is one of this things.
You and others go claiming that many guns in the righteous hands will discourage crime, but if "being confronted by thugs who would rob you or hurt you for the fun of it in your own driveway or going to the store in your neighborhood" is a plausible scenario in your life they are doing a crappy crappy job, so switch to tanks, bazookas and flamethrower because you have the bravest criminals in the whole western world.
I do not challenge anyone but do to firearms possession I do not have to hide or run from them. There is a huge difference between challenging someone and refusing to be victimized by them.
If they are threatening me all the grey or even good areas of their lives are of no importance. At that moment they are willing to hurt me to get what they want.
If we would just become socialist all are problems would go away?
Maybe we should apply to regain our status as a British colony.
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