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TNDommeK -> The White Queen (9/23/2013 3:46:43 PM)

Anyone watching this series?


It seems a bit redundant as far as going to war, sex, baby.
But I can't not watch it.




frazzle -> RE: The White Queen (9/23/2013 3:50:41 PM)

Watched the whole thing, along side watching a documentary about the tudors.

Loved it, and could see the correlation.




OsideGirl -> RE: The White Queen (9/23/2013 3:52:58 PM)

I've been watching it. I always joke that I should have been a historian with a focus on War of the Roses/Tudor/Elizabethan.

I agree that it does seem like war, sex, and babies...but it's at least accurate on that part.

The Lancasters and Yorks constantly battled. (And ironically, it ended up being Henry Tudor who was King)

Edward and Elizabeth Woodville did have a ton of kids, with her two sons being the missing Princes in the Tower.




TNDommeK -> RE: The White Queen (9/23/2013 4:01:37 PM)

Yes you're right. So I guess it should be seen.

I've read the books, the red and white.




theshytype -> RE: The White Queen (9/23/2013 4:14:33 PM)

I've never heard of it before. I don't have Starz, so maybe that's why, but I bet I'd love the series.




lovethyself -> RE: The White Queen (9/23/2013 7:47:43 PM)

I love her books (Phillipa Gregory for those that don't know). I haven't watched the series yet, but I'm currently reading The White Princess, her newest book, following Elizabeth and the beginning of Henry Tudors reign (sequal to the White Queen).

How is the series? Is it easy to follow? I watched The Other Boleyn Girl after having read the book, and I found it harder to follow the familial relationships and marriages in the movie. It's easier to reference someone as "my cousin so and so" in a first person narrative, to help keep it sorted, in text. I suppose that a tv series has much more time to reinforce that information.

I usually avoid watching something, because I'd rather read the book first, and then the movie/series never seems to measure up.

Theshytype, I personally loved reading her Tudor series. It took a bit to get into from book to book, because each book was following a different person (or multiple persons) so some of references to past events were coloured by that person's perspective and what they knew about the event. It made it more real for me, but it was different from reading other fiction where past events are set in stone by the story.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: The White Queen (9/23/2013 8:43:25 PM)

I pray to god this prodco and the guy behind The Tudors and Vikings does not abuse us withany potential "adaption" of Boudicca. I did enjoy most of the Tudors, though.




eulero83 -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 2:03:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovethyself

I love her books (Phillipa Gregory for those that don't know). I haven't watched the series yet, but I'm currently reading The White Princess, her newest book, following Elizabeth and the beginning of Henry Tudors reign (sequal to the White Queen).

How is the series? Is it easy to follow? I watched The Other Boleyn Girl after having read the book, and I found it harder to follow the familial relationships and marriages in the movie. It's easier to reference someone as "my cousin so and so" in a first person narrative, to help keep it sorted, in text. I suppose that a tv series has much more time to reinforce that information.

I usually avoid watching something, because I'd rather read the book first, and then the movie/series never seems to measure up.

Theshytype, I personally loved reading her Tudor series. It took a bit to get into from book to book, because each book was following a different person (or multiple persons) so some of references to past events were coloured by that person's perspective and what they knew about the event. It made it more real for me, but it was different from reading other fiction where past events are set in stone by the story.


It's easy to follow, tha many minor marriages are ignored in the series and it focus only on the main characters, what bothered me is the costant use of witchcraft, I know she was accused of that, but in my opinion they could have used a more ambiguous attitude on it's real effects. Acting is good but not excellent, in it's entirety it was a good entertainment.




freedomdwarf1 -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 3:06:06 AM)

FR~

My OH is a Tudors nut and could give a Uni professor a good run for their money.
She lives and dies on the Anne Boleyn forums every day.
It's not my cup of tea but it's her forte.

She's read the book and seen the series.
In her opnion, the series doesn't always follow the book too closely.
Both are factually inaccurate.
The series is spoilt by the obvious zips in the costumes and some wooden acting.
But.... it is entertaining if nothing else. [:D]




Politesub53 -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 4:16:34 AM)

Historically speaking it was very accurate, given it was made for TV. None of these shows are ever 100% accurate

I am not sure the "witchcraft" part was overdone, as it was common to throw those sort of accusations about in an age that was extremely God fearing. Richrd III passed the Titulas Regius act and mentioned whichcraft in that. The Next King (Henry) dissolved the act.

The whole thing about the War of the Roses isnt so much that it was a battle for the Crown, but it was a familial battle. It was indeed known at the time as "The War of the Cousins"




eulero83 -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 5:22:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Historically speaking it was very accurate, given it was made for TV. None of these shows are ever 100% accurate

I am not sure the "witchcraft" part was overdone, as it was common to throw those sort of accusations about in an age that was extremely God fearing. Richrd III passed the Titulas Regius act and mentioned whichcraft in that. The Next King (Henry) dissolved the act.

The whole thing about the War of the Roses isnt so much that it was a battle for the Crown, but it was a familial battle. It was indeed known at the time as "The War of the Cousins"


about the witchcraft, I know she was accused and that became somehow a trait of the historical character, what I was talking about is that in the show while there is a kind of ambiguity in the efficacy of the other characters use of "spiritual forces" like for Margaret Beaufort's praying you don't know if she's really doing the difference or if she's just reading the events as confirmation of a self-fullfilling profecy, when it's Elizabeth or her mother doing a spell they show a clear cause-effect connection and there is no kind of ambiguity. But that's just a personal taste of mine it's a fiction not a documentary so it's ok.




xxblushesxx -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 9:04:01 AM)

I have not watched it because the book (by an author I enjoy) really got panned. I kind of figured if they can't get the book right, the show won't be either. (although it looks like the type of show I'd love.)
Did I miss out?




TNDommeK -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 2:48:30 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lovethyself

I love her books (Phillipa Gregory for those that don't know). I haven't watched the series yet, but I'm currently reading The White Princess, her newest book, following Elizabeth and the beginning of Henry Tudors reign (sequal to the White Queen).

How is the series? Is it easy to follow? I watched The Other Boleyn Girl after having read the book, and I found it harder to follow the familial relationships and marriages in the movie. It's easier to reference someone as "my cousin so and so" in a first person narrative, to help keep it sorted, in text. I suppose that a tv series has much more time to reinforce that information.

I usually avoid watching something, because I'd rather read the book first, and then the movie/series never seems to measure up.

Theshytype, I personally loved reading her Tudor series. It took a bit to get into from book to book, because each book was following a different person (or multiple persons) so some of references to past events were coloured by that person's perspective and what they knew about the event. It made it more real for me, but it was different from reading other fiction where past events are set in stone by the story.


One of my fav books and movies...the Other Boleyn Girl.




ShaharThorne -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 9:22:44 PM)

Only saw one episode and while Richard does not have a crooked back (I am into realism here), I was pointing out the characters to my Mom so she can get a clearer picture. Told Mom if she wants, she can read my books. I got the entire collection.




NoBimbosAllowed -> RE: The White Queen (9/24/2013 11:04:29 PM)

The craptastic "witchcraft" element is in fact what turned me off the show, as it's treatment of witchcraft was as fangirl-fucktastic as Myer's version of "vampires".




Lucylastic -> RE: The White Queen (9/25/2013 3:08:50 AM)

Its probably the most historically accurate portrayal of the period thats ever been done. Having said that, Ive only seen four episodes, I havent read the books, yet....
Ive downloaded the episodes and will watch them probably in a marathon.
I will enjoy it simply because it is is about the wars leading up to the tudors.
I have a serious hard on for anything around the 12-17 century.
Especially the Time Team series, the discovery of Richards tomb in Leicester, and a time travellers guide to elizabethan ENgland(3 part programme)




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