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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/25/2013 2:27:00 PM   
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Interesting. I do think we rely too much on computers and not enough on our brain.

I see it quite differently. Inevitably in the information age information is only going to become more and more readily available. The general consensus among futurists is that our educational institutions need to adapt. We need to stop trying to cram students' heads full of facts which are readily available to them and instead teach them how to actually think about those facts.



Years ago, when I was preparing for my S.A.T.s (I cracked 1400, thank you). My uncle, the college professor told me that in High School, the teachers cram factoids into your head and you regurgitate them, later on tests (like the S.A.T.s) in order to "see what you've learned".

He went on to say: "The purpose of college is not to teach you everything you need to know in your major/chosen field but to teach you where to find all the answers and make some of your own".

It's why any number of freshman college students don't show up for their second semester. It's not the same kind of learning.





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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/25/2013 2:44:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree. I tutored for a couple years when I went back to school, and we termed them "One Semester Wonders". They may have rocked in high school by memorizing all the crap fed them, but when it came time to come up with an original thought they were lost.

That said, I think Google and Wikepedia are both valid tools in order to acquire the raw information and to point the way to the actual answers. But too many saw them both as the end of their search, and when it came time to expound, they went slack-jawed. They're tools, not the final product.

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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/25/2013 2:50:37 PM   
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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/25/2013 3:39:43 PM   
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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/25/2013 5:06:15 PM   
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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/26/2013 2:04:18 AM   
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So use Bing.

Or DuckDuckGo, which promises never to collect your personal data.

Saving and finding information is what computers were made for, once they got past being fancy adding machines. Way back when I was in school (with my slate and my abacus) people were worrying that it was no longer possible for even an educated person to know all the scope of science and literature; and even back then I thought, that's what computers are for. They'll remember stuff so we don't have to.

We've been using artificial memory aids since Eek the ape-woman scratched lines on a bone to track how many sleeps till her next period. And as others have noted, people have been worrying all along that it would make our memories weaker. The druids, it's said, didn't write stuff down because if you couldn't memorise the entire history of the tribe and the books of laws, you didn't have what it took to qualify.

Bias in stored information is not new. Intelligent readers have always known that the books can be wrong.

Short answer: this is a non-issue.

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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/27/2013 12:21:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		and on the subject of data mining, at least one radio show is using the title of this thread nearly verbatim. I wonder if this thread ripped off the show, or the show - in typical corporate braindead mediocrity-rules fashion, mined the net to find this type of thread hear (and elsewhere) to be lazy RE preparing their "shows".

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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/29/2013 1:15:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		In Dungeons and Dragons terms, we are intelligent because we can find the answers to our questions but we are not wise because we have the information by rote memorization. There's also some intellectual apathy at work. If typing errors offend me, then my only solace is to read a novel by a professional writer.

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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/29/2013 7:30:07 AM   
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This was first addressed in 1957 in the movie Desk Set. Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy.

I love that flick!

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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/29/2013 5:10:29 PM   
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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/29/2013 6:10:31 PM   
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This was first addressed in 1957 in the movie Desk Set. Katherine Hepburn and Spencer Tracy.

I love that flick!

Just rewatched a favorite scene, in fact.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEoFFYH_m0Q

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RE: Is Google Wrecking Our Memory? - 9/29/2013 9:51:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		"I decided not to post what I was going to post." If it was original and in no way plagiarized, t'is a shame. If what you were going to post was cannibalized from wiki and das Goog to the tune of over 40% of what you were going to post, we thank you for your kindness.

"In Dungeons and Dragons terms--" in d&d terms one had to physically buy the books, buy the dice, read the dead-tree tech and PHYSICALLY learn to use the dice while often using a REAL PENCIL on real PAPER to run a game, or enjoy a game, right? Wasn't that the case? No App-crap at all involved in D7D which was part of what some fellow publishing people claimed was a major sales' point? The collectibility of the tangible elements, including...

what the hell were they, the folders with the art and sometimes art by guys that went on to work at top rates for Vertigo (a Time Warner AOL Company...)

oh, yeah, MODULES. That was the word.

ALL OF WHICH 'by hand', pretty much. no i-Dipstick devices required, at all.

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