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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
The Soviet Union propped up Cuba until it fell. US good reach Cuba all the time through intermediary countries except Cuba has no means to purchase those. China is, by most account only still a socialist system because they've had to Implement free markets to some extent and because it has revenue from Free Market Hong Kong. But even with that china is getting wobbly. Argentina is supplying Cuba most of its power or Cuba would have fallen. Argentina's market are starting to collapse so that may not last long. Dude, read something once in a while rather than just talk to people who agree with you.
And the United States propped up how many red states? Ever look at the number of red states that get more dollars from the Fed than they give to the country? I wonder how long their economies would last before they collapse without the generous help of blue states......
You can make silly arguments about the former USSR. The USSR collapse from a number of reasons, not just the long term financial health. If the world's economy was measured in their currency instead of the US Dollar, would they have collapse? And I really 'hate' to inform you, but the United States was considered 'second rate' before WW2, which was only what....seventy-two years ago? The only reason why we become first rate was two very important reasons: The actions of Democrats and a utterly devastated Europe. How about YOU READ once in a while?
Tell me, if you think you know so much. Which is cheaper: Getting goods directly shipped to you, or by a third or fourth party? Since that is your 'argument' with Cuba. The embargo of US Products to Cuba effectively stopped the great majority of materials going from the biggest consumer nation on the planet to Cuba. How far away is Cuba from the United States? Your going to argue that the embargo had little to no effect on Cuba. Bull-Droppings!
Last I checked, the United States can try to dictate what other countries do all it wants, but those countries do not need to heed such actions. There is always consequences of such actions. Argentina does NOT have the economic 'staying power' the United States holds. So 'yes', their ability to help and supply Cuba is much more limited due to the United State's embargo. Again, where is Argentina compared to the United States geographically in supplying Cuba with stuff (i.e. which is closer and less resources used to ship stuff)?
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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
The Soviet Union lasted, what, seventy five years. The people's republic of China came about in the late 40's. You have to look at history in the long run. The People's Republic of China may not even last as long as the Soviet Union. Vietnam had to go to free market to keep the communist government in place.
The 'political system' and the 'financial system' of the country are never one and the same. To believe otherwise shows your limited reading. The United States is a Republic. It doesn't cost you anything to vote in elections. Which is very much unlike most of the companies within the United States. They operate (financially speaking) under different forms of government: dictatorship (i.e. sole proprietorships), feudal (i.e. corporations), oligarchy (i.e. some types of companies that control other companies), and socialism (i.e. The NFL, NASCAR, MLB, etc.). The United Kingdom is best described as a 'Democratic Monarchy' where as the United States is a 'Democratic Republic'. In the UK, the Monarchy is a form of power while the USA is a Republic, they use Democratic systems to place individuals into power. Yet, the financial systems of both countries operate in a surprisingly different set of factors and gears.
Vietnam is a small country in 'number of persons', 'land size', 'resources', and 'economic/political power' when compared to the United States. Stating that the USSR collapse due to its financial situation shows a complete lack of study. China, has had to contend with concepts and ideas it never had to deal with in its history. Go figure they would have some stumbling issues. The United States never had a 'universal healthcare system' before 2013; and gosh....LOOK....the United States is having some problems with the Affordable Care Act. In both situations, both countries have had to contend with a wide range of issues, concepts, and problems that can NOT be boiled down into simple terms. Solutions are not exactly painted on some wall in some sunken pyramid in Egypt awaiting discovery. They are often found through trial and error. Just like each form of government beyond anarchy in humanity's past!
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ORIGINAL: HunterCA
Do some reading dude.
Why don't YOU do some reading, dude!
< Message edited by joether -- 11/8/2013 1:11:41 PM >
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