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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Yep, schoolkids should go to school armed.

Once upon a time kids would go to school and leave their, most often, .22 cal rifles in their lockers as to go hunting after school.

And here.

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At my school we brought our shotguns. We left them in our vehicles though. At one of the high schools there was a target range in the basement for .22 caliber only. It was used for the youth NRA marksmanship program.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin
At my school we brought our shotguns. We left them in our vehicles though. At one of the high schools there was a target range in the basement for .22 caliber only. It was used for the youth NRA marksmanship program.

That's not good enough at all. It wouldn't have worked in Columbine. The kids need to have their guns or rifles on their desks loaded and ready at all times. Teachers should have machine guns mounted on their lecterns and parents could club together to buy a small but serviceable cannon to put in the school yard. Husbands and wives should *never* fall to sleep in the same bed with one another without the one having a gun resting fondly against the other's forehead across the sheets. Unborn foetuses are people too, of course - as we're often being reminded - so I see no reason why the 2nd shouldn't apply to them, too; therefore they should also be packing heat. Is it beyond the limits of our technology to build a firearm small enough to whop up a pregnant woman's vadge and the into the tiny half-formed hand of every right-thinking all-American foetus? I don't think so.

I keep emailing the NRA with these practical and realistic thoughts but they never reply. Bunch of fucking limp-wristed commie liberal pansy-assed surrender-monkeys.

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Is it beyond the limits of our technology to build a firearm small enough to whop up a pregnant woman's vadge and the into the tiny half-formed hand of every right-thinking all-American foetus? I don't think so.

Ask and ye shall receive.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

It's not my problem who you choose to engage with, or which translation of the Bible you like.

If people want to make this dead preacher a poster child, and play the WWJD card, I'm perfectly happy to shove it back in their faces.

[:D]

(And if the rape allegation is true, I wouldn't convict from the jury box)

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It doesn't say you can carry in those places it says you can carry there if there is no objection from management.
I can't see any bar not objecting.
There is a church in Colorado where a member used a gun to protect the congregation.
Remember Christ used a bullwhip on people in the temple.

Wrong again, no surprise

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.” John 2:13-17 New International Version.

I still find it hard to understand that a place were love, understanding and compassion are suppose to be practice there are also guns. But I am agnostic, so much for christian love.

I'm confused, how exactly does your quote somehow prove that he's "wrong again"? Bama said Christ used a bullwhip, your quote says he made a whip out of cord. Seems like semantics to me.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/la-pastor-shot-killed-church-service-article-1.1470490

As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed. The bible doesn't say you can't kill, it says that you can't murder. Subtle difference perhaps, but an important one when it comes to the right to self defense.

First of all a bull whip is not made of cord, I know a person who makes bull whips and that not how it is made. You are sighting a single incident so I fail to see justification for guns, also you have a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you are confused between religion and movie Zardoz?[;)]

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As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed.

Yep, schoolkids should go to school armed. After all, the 2nd Amendment doesn't mention a lower age limit, does it?

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ORIGINAL: Just0Us0Two

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It doesn't say you can carry in those places it says you can carry there if there is no objection from management.
I can't see any bar not objecting.
There is a church in Colorado where a member used a gun to protect the congregation.
Remember Christ used a bullwhip on people in the temple.

Wrong again, no surprise

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.” John 2:13-17 New International Version.

I still find it hard to understand that a place were love, understanding and compassion are suppose to be practice there are also guns. But I am agnostic, so much for christian love.

I'm confused, how exactly does your quote somehow prove that he's "wrong again"? Bama said Christ used a bullwhip, your quote says he made a whip out of cord. Seems like semantics to me.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/la-pastor-shot-killed-church-service-article-1.1470490

As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed. The bible doesn't say you can't kill, it says that you can't murder. Subtle difference perhaps, but an important one when it comes to the right to self defense.

First of all a bull whip is not made of cord, I know a person who makes bull whips and that not how it is made. You are sighting a single incident so I fail to see justification for guns, also you have a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you are confused between religion and movie Zardoz?[;)]

The point is not what kind of whip was used the point is He resorted to violence in the temple.
A typical feeble attempt to discredit through an irrelevant argument.

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As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed.

Yep, schoolkids should go to school armed. After all, the 2nd Amendment doesn't mention a lower age limit, does it?

Also, forget neighbours that aren't all that 'loving' - more people get killed by members of their own families. So, all mothers and fathers, and all their children, should be armed at all times when at home. It's the only way forward to a mature, Godly and civilised society.

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It doesn't say you can carry in those places it says you can carry there if there is no objection from management.
I can't see any bar not objecting.
There is a church in Colorado where a member used a gun to protect the congregation.
Remember Christ used a bullwhip on people in the temple.

Wrong again, no surprise

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.” John 2:13-17 New International Version.

I still find it hard to understand that a place were love, understanding and compassion are suppose to be practice there are also guns. But I am agnostic, so much for christian love.

I'm confused, how exactly does your quote somehow prove that he's "wrong again"? Bama said Christ used a bullwhip, your quote says he made a whip out of cord. Seems like semantics to me.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/la-pastor-shot-killed-church-service-article-1.1470490

As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed. The bible doesn't say you can't kill, it says that you can't murder. Subtle difference perhaps, but an important one when it comes to the right to self defense.

First of all a bull whip is not made of cord, I know a person who makes bull whips and that not how it is made. You are sighting a single incident so I fail to see justification for guns, also you have a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you are confused between religion and movie Zardoz?[;)]

The point is not what kind of whip was used the point is He resorted to violence in the temple.
A typical feeble attempt to discredit through an irrelevant argument.

Your the one who claimed it was a bull whip. It is only found in one version which I took the quote, also he used it on animals not people.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed.

Yep, schoolkids should go to school armed. After all, the 2nd Amendment doesn't mention a lower age limit, does it?

Also, forget neighbours that aren't all that 'loving' - more people get killed by members of their own families. So, all mothers and fathers, and all their children, should be armed at all times when at home. It's the only way forward to a mature, Godly and civilised society.

Skip to reality only those without concern with reality believe anyone wants to arm chidren

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Skip to reality only those without concern with reality believe anyone wants to arm chidren

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Skip to reality only those without concern with reality believe anyone wants to arm chidren

I agree. Even the most ludicrous of gun nuts here on CM doesn't seem to love the idea of small kids packing firearms. Great, as far as I'm concerned.

It's just that I've seen so many people standing proud, jaws and chest thrust out, as they proclaim their true support for the purest interpretation of the 2nd Amendment while never once considering children as people.

Why? Now, if it's self-evident that we can all safely disregard the 2nd Amendment when it comes to considering children as people (therefore holding the right to be armed along with people who just so happen to be over, say, 16, 18 or 21) why shouldn't we all safely disregard lots more of it? Or even all of it?

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It doesn't say you can carry in those places it says you can carry there if there is no objection from management.
I can't see any bar not objecting.
There is a church in Colorado where a member used a gun to protect the congregation.
Remember Christ used a bullwhip on people in the temple.

Wrong again, no surprise

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.” John 2:13-17 New International Version.

I still find it hard to understand that a place were love, understanding and compassion are suppose to be practice there are also guns. But I am agnostic, so much for christian love.

I'm confused, how exactly does your quote somehow prove that he's "wrong again"? Bama said Christ used a bullwhip, your quote says he made a whip out of cord. Seems like semantics to me.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/la-pastor-shot-killed-church-service-article-1.1470490

As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed. The bible doesn't say you can't kill, it says that you can't murder. Subtle difference perhaps, but an important one when it comes to the right to self defense.

First of all a bull whip is not made of cord, I know a person who makes bull whips and that not how it is made. You are sighting a single incident so I fail to see justification for guns, also you have a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you are confused between religion and movie Zardoz?[;)]

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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

It doesn't say you can carry in those places it says you can carry there if there is no objection from management.
I can't see any bar not objecting.
There is a church in Colorado where a member used a gun to protect the congregation.
Remember Christ used a bullwhip on people in the temple.

Wrong again, no surprise

"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15 So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16 To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” 17 His disciples remembered that it is written: “Zeal for your house will consume me.” John 2:13-17 New International Version.

I still find it hard to understand that a place were love, understanding and compassion are suppose to be practice there are also guns. But I am agnostic, so much for christian love.

I'm confused, how exactly does your quote somehow prove that he's "wrong again"? Bama said Christ used a bullwhip, your quote says he made a whip out of cord. Seems like semantics to me.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/la-pastor-shot-killed-church-service-article-1.1470490

As to why someone might choose to carry a gun in church, perhaps for the same reason that gun-free school zones don't work. Thugs like to prey on the unarmed. In the link I posted above, a former deacon of the church entered and shot the pastor dead during a sermon. Maybe if someone other then the killer had also been armed, the Pastor would still be alive.

Love and compassion are all well and good, but Loving thy neighbor as you would yourself doesn't mean you have to allow yourself to be killed. The bible doesn't say you can't kill, it says that you can't murder. Subtle difference perhaps, but an important one when it comes to the right to self defense.

First of all a bull whip is not made of cord, I know a person who makes bull whips and that not how it is made. You are sighting a single incident so I fail to see justification for guns, also you have a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you are confused between religion and movie Zardoz?[;)]

The point is not what kind of whip was used the point is He resorted to violence in the temple.
A typical feeble attempt to discredit through an irrelevant argument.

Your the one who claimed it was a bull whip. It is only found in one version which I took the quote, also he used it on animals not people.

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Why? Now, if it's self-evident that we can all safely disregard the 2nd Amendment when it comes to considering children as people (therefore holding the right to be armed along with people who just so happen to be over, say, 16, 18 or 21) why shouldn't we all safely disregard lots more of it? Or even all of it?

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The propaganda to deny due process to people by smearing them with the broader label of 'nutjob', or 'crook', or 'handicapped', and conflate the whole category with a small section of it, is a denial of basic equality.

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Who is we ? You guys already pretty much disgarded whatever rights you had to own firearms. You don't see us pushing the British to arm themselves. What's the big concern in disarming us ?