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casidi75 -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 8:35:07 AM)

Thanks for the encouragement. When the action is in swing I do notice a dissasociation almost like Im not there but watching it happen.



casidi75 -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 8:38:48 AM)

You are very knowledgeble I would like to email you with some similar ideas. The essence maybe that pain and pleasure pour from the same chalice



kiwisub12 -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 8:40:02 AM)

"What It Is That We Do"



casidi75 -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 8:40:34 AM)

Ok More about letting go and being in the moment. I give that i try to see how it flys. thanks



DanielleofMists -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 10:01:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: casidi75

Another newbie question. When I am sessioning there is no stress, no world, no effort to reason or resist. Is this a escape from ego. Is subspace what this is or is that something else. For those who may take offense to this or be agravated by my cluelessness. You have my appologies it is not my intention.



"Is this a escape from ego"

No matter what definition of ego I use; the consciousness of your own identity, or the awareness of one's own identity and existence or an inflated feeling of pride in your superiority to others. Then subspace is definitely not an escape from any of these definitions in my experience. I am aware of who I am and my existence even if I'm floating off in subspace. No matter if I'm taking a little mental break or experiencing the high of sorts I don't escape my identity or existence. While I may not be contemplating my next job or what I'll make for supper I'm not escaping the fundamentals of who I am. I can still feel the pain I'm receiving and I'm aware of the situation I'm in it's more just letting my thoughts escape me and really feeling the sensations of what's happening to me physically and within my body and brain.

Although your question (and why someone would be aggravated or take offence to someone asking to gain information is beyond me) has got me thinking. There are things I can do to increase the chance I will go into subspace, but KoM can also make this impossible if he chooses. Which means that I am very active in our energy exchange during play. But if I were allowed to float (hasn't happened yet, but it's still new) I'm curious what the energy exchange would be like, certainly not as interactive but could it be classified as an escape? Thank you for giving me things to think about!



casidi75 -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 11:25:10 AM)

Thank you DaniellofMists I like the clear context you put it in. I too enjoy the forum I have learned alot. Thanks again and good fortune to you and yours Casidi



AaNiMaLl -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/28/2013 1:42:09 PM)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLfM-g8i9Aw

This song kind of sums it up for me. 'I'm over it, can't we be together embrace it' (sometimes it feels like there is so much 'noise' that we can't simply be and enjoy the relationship) you see, I am falling into a vast abyss, I need to get rid of these memories of the past, my fear is fading, but I can't speak it, take my hand, be alive ....you see I cannot be forsaken because I am not the only one that is walking around feeding and raping. I don't have to hide this from anyone. I am over it. Over sleeping. Over the mask.

Talking to my mother this morning who was telling me about 'truth to power'. Nietzsche is all about ego and will to power. So is Freud who came up with the term 'ego'. But there is something deeper than will and that is truth. And according to Jesus the truth will set you free. And according to Satan give in to the flesh. So I guess they should just chill and get along because flesh is truth. My desires run through my heart into my brain. Testosterone to brain, brain to cock, cock to body, body to testosterone, testosterone to brain, brain to cock, cock to body, body to testosterone, testosterone to brain ... ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCEeAn6_QJo Here is another song. Aenima is the term that Jung used to combat Freud's notion of ego. It is like the opposite theory. Jung revolutionised psychology. Because he cut away all the smoke and created a clean flame. Ego is nothing. Everything is an awareness of who we are as human.

Fret for your figure and
Fret for your latte and
Fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your lawsuit and
Fret for your prozac and
Fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and
Fret for your car.

Fking love this song. In ego we have such a sure knowledge of death. 'Silly sht'. 'One great big festering neon distraction'. 'I have one suggestion to keep you occupied, learn to swim'. learn to swim learn to swim learn swim learn to swim learn to swim learn to swim learn to swim learn to swim. Fck all the bllsht mask. Pray for mayhem, pray for tidle waves, I want to see the ground give away. ...even simply the animal nature of this song. The bass line. grahey grahey grahey. Makes me want to smash some sht.



littlewonder -> RE: BDSM and Ego (9/29/2013 4:18:13 AM)

It's not an escape from my ego and it's not subspace. It's just who I am.



zpenguin -> RE: BDSM and Ego (10/1/2013 11:45:25 AM)

I do not believe its an escape from ego. For my sub and I when she enters subspace its more like riding a high that disconnects you from everything else in the world. I would like to know if anyone here enters what I like to call "Domspace"? I know I enter it while we are in a more intense scene. It's the feeling of energy, of almost out of body persay? There has been times where it seems like I am watching myself and there are other times where it is almost like I have to try to remember what happened when it is over. So I believe subspace, trance, or what ever you want to call it, its all in the eye of the beholder.



Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: BDSM and Ego (10/1/2013 10:46:30 PM)

Ahhhhhhhh... this all depends upon who you are with and what you are doing at the time with them. To make a joke - it's more like 50 shades of whatever it's going to be.



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