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A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:02:58 AM   
Yachtie


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Status: offline 		Not all scientists are panicking about global warming — one of them finds the alarmism “hilarious.”

A top climate scientist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology lambasted a new report by the UN’s climate bureaucracy that blamed mankind as the main cause of global warming and whitewashed the fact that there has been a hiatus in warming for the last 15 years.

“I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence,” Dr. Richard Lindzen told Climate Depot, a global warming skeptic news site. “They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.”


Hysterical it is. What's even funnier will be the credentialists denying the credentials of a top climatologist at M.I.T. in favor of consensus based science.

Saddle up and let the hilarity begin

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:08:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, Lindzer might have said that, and he is no more credentialed than those who are advocating a view for human attributable climate change. So . . .

But I don't believe anything the Daily Caller says. . . that is the issue with me.



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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:29:12 AM   
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Yeah, Lindzer might have said that, and he is no more credentialed than those who are advocating a view for human attributable climate change. So . . .

But I don't believe anything the Daily Caller says. . . that is the issue with me.



Attacking the messenger again, "I don't believe anything the Daily Caller says".

Of course Lindzen isn't any more credentialed, but he isn't any less either.

From the Daily Caller's link to the original post-

Lindzen has published more than 200 scientific papers and books. He was a lead author of Chapter 7, ‘Physical Climate Processes and Feedbacks,’ of the IPCC Third Assessment Report on climate change.




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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:33:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Attacking the fools. Daily Caller is one of the rightwing propaganda organs of the teabaggers, if it wasn't right out of Goebbels machine they wouldn't print it.

But now the IPCC wrote a report, and you are attacking the messenger. Whats the fuckin prob?

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:40:26 AM   
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This quote alone.. tells you all you really need to know about global warming

“I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence,” Dr. Richard Lindzen told Climate Depot, a global warming skeptic news site. “They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.”


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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:40:59 AM   
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Attacking the fools. Daily Caller is one of the rightwing propaganda organs of the teabaggers, if it wasn't right out of Goebbels machine they wouldn't print it.

But now the IPCC wrote a report, and you are attacking the messenger. Whats the fuckin prob?

No fuckin' prob at all. Just doing what leftwingers do best.

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:42:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, it is not clear that he has said that, got video, or a credible citation? And he may have said it, and don't know that it proves a fucking thing at all, either way.

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:46:08 AM   
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Yeah, it is not clear that he has said that, got video, or a credible citation? And he may have said it, and don't know that it proves a fucking thing at all, either way.




Dance little doggie, dance.




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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:47:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		nah, i leave the vermiformous foolishness to teabaggers, they are the ones that dance and shuck and jive.

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 9:56:10 AM   
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nah, i leave the vermiformous foolishness to teabaggers, they are the ones that dance and shuck and jive.



Wonderful topic avoidance.

Oh! That's right! The topic is actually the hilarity, like, ah, the quote above.

Carry on

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 10:50:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		The topic being that the daily caller are lying fuckwits? Not avoiding it at all. Laughing at the teabaggers and their lack of any fact or intelligence has provided many hours of mirth.

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 10:56:51 AM   
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Hysterical it is. What's even funnier will be the credentialists denying the credentials of a top climatologist at M.I.T. in favor of consensus based science.

Saddle up and let the hilarity begin


Hilarious... Yeah, let's just pick a scientist to believe, and go with him. Fuck t he fact that a huge body of other scientists disagree.

I bet if we just ignored those others then the whole issue will go away.

That'll be very scientific won't it.

<rolls eyes>

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 4:32:37 PM   
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This quote..
This quote alone.. tells you all you really need to know about global warming

“I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence,” Dr. Richard Lindzen told Climate Depot, a global warming skeptic news site. “They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.”




No, it just tells us your oft stated opinion about global warming.

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RE: A skeptic's laugh point - 9/30/2013 5:51:31 PM   
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Not all scientists are panicking about global warming — one of them finds the alarmism “hilarious.”

A top climate scientist from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology lambasted a new report by the UN’s climate bureaucracy that blamed mankind as the main cause of global warming and whitewashed the fact that there has been a hiatus in warming for the last 15 years.

“I think that the latest IPCC report has truly sunk to level of hilarious incoherence,” Dr. Richard Lindzen told Climate Depot, a global warming skeptic news site. “They are proclaiming increased confidence in their models as the discrepancies between their models and observations increase.”


Hysterical it is. What's even funnier will be the credentialists denying the credentials of a top climatologist at M.I.T. in favor of consensus based science.

Saddle up and let the hilarity begin

Breaking news! A scientist disagrees with other scientists! Hold the front page!

This is why it's impossible to discuss science with people who think politically. They can't understand a community where disagreement and debate are the norm, the way truth is arrived at.

There are scientists out there who disagree with quantum mechanics, despite it being the foundation of microelectronics; who disagree with the germ theory of disease; who disagree with the theory of gravity. That's the way science advances, by always having questioners to keep testing the existing theories.

99.999% of the time, the questioners are proved wrong, and in the process the existing theory is strengthened. Just now and then, the questioners are proved right... like the ones who, 50 years ago, questioned the theory that the world's climate was far too massive to be affected by human activity. When they've been proved right often enough, their crank theory becomes the existing consensus.

But there will always be dissenters, because that's how science works. And there will always be laypeople who imagine that because they can find a scientist who disagrees, the consensus must be wrong.

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